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 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Perfect Organism wrote:
Played a game today. Seems fairly similar to Silver Tower, although less quirky;

There are agility minigames in the Challenges deck, like having to stack a pillar of dice in numerical order in 20 seconds. That really is on AoS "+1 if you have a moustache" level of nonsense.

They exist, but they are less common than in ST from what I can see. Also, there isn't a special rule for every single room and events are a lot more generic; the whole experience just feels a bit more streamlined and closer to a normal boardgame than the full-on weirdness of ST.

Made a start on building the models.

Adventurers are all really nice kits to work with, though when cleaning up the barrel of the Ranger, it snapped. Thankfully a very clean break, where you end up with a spike and socket on the two pieces, so easily fixed.

Chaos Lord is really nice too.

Sneaky pint in the pub, then back to it.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Made a start on building the models.

Adventurers are all really nice kits to work with, though when cleaning up the barrel of the Ranger, it snapped. Thankfully a very clean break, where you end up with a spike and socket on the two pieces, so easily fixed.

Chaos Lord is really nice too.

Sneaky pint in the pub, then back to it.

You're lucky, the Ranger had two pieces break in that manner for me just removing them from the sprue.
The barrel broke in the same spot as yours did, and the 'grip' for the rifle broke too. Funny bit though? The model showcased on the webstore had the same 'grip' broken.


Also just posted:
Article on the Future of Blackstone Fortress up

Highlight:

We’ll have more news for you about what’ll be in the expansions in the new year, but for now, we can assure you that more explorers will be making their way to the Blackstone Fortress in search of its secrets – while horrors beyond those we’ve already seen lurk in its depths…

Slaugh confirmed?
Still surprised there are still no necrons though.

I reckon Necrons are better suited to explorers than Hostiles. Imagine a group of four. Lord, Lychguard, Cryptek and Praetorian could make for a decent group?

I wonder if the first two build on the factions in the starter set - more Spindlecreatures and other dwellers in the dark as you get deeper into the heart of the fortress (Spindlemother seems almost compulsory for this kind of thing, and I'd not say no to an Enslaver or some of the other old Rogue Trader beasts), and the twisted corner of the Impaler now under sway of a Dark mechanicus magos (maybe adding in the extra 3-6 traitor guard inc heavy weapon team to fill out the squad alongside the various biomechanical abominations...)

So you'd then have three different "zones" with signature enemies.

Necron Cyptek and Ork Freeboota explorers would be nice as well to round out the factions. But think I'd seem them much more on the side of the explorers than as alternative baddies.

I wouldn't expect Necrons as "explorers", but as high-end Hostiles.

Freebootas are implied to be present on Precipice, as are a great many Xenos factions.

Wild guess time?
Next set of Explorers:
Drukhari of some kind
Freeboota
Ogryn
Squat

 Kanluwen wrote:
I wouldn't expect Necrons as "explorers", but as high-end Hostiles.

Freebootas are implied to be present on Precipice, as are a great many Xenos factions.

Wild guess time?
Next set of Explorers:
Drukhari of some kind
Freeboota
Ogryn
Squat

Expecting the Starstriders in White Dwarf - hopefully with a ship sheet etc.

Freebooterz and Drukhari would be cool - same with the ship.

I have a strong suspicion that we will probably be getting an Inquisition Kill Team at some point with Blackstone Fortress rules for the characters in that KT. I can't imagine any Ordos Xenos Inquisitor worth their salt wouldn't want to investigate an ancient alien weapon platform.

Think it's not going to be too obvious, old warhammer quest characters were a little off the beaten track and there's now Kill Team to scratch that Inquisitorial itch.

WD coverage for niche models I can see though, but don't think they'd be the expansions.

Plus it kind of sounds like this is Draik's story, think an Inquisitor would overshadow him a bit (even though they'd be operating well outside of their remit, whilst he wasn't) and it kind of feels like this really is somebody in the design team's baby.

Really intrigued to see what sort of format the expansions take. Single models, small squads or warbands, boxed sets with more tile sections and cards, all of the above?

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Really intrigued to see what sort of format the expansions take. Single models, small squads or warbands, boxed sets with more tile sections and cards, all of the above?

I think that's one of the of things of beauty with BSF, is that they can really put out a variety of expansions of different sizes and price points, and they could all integrate into the game very easily.

The most exciting part of that news is that it looks like they won't just be doing rules for existing models, but will be releasing new bespoke minis for the game. I would love to see an Exodite finally get made by GW, and the Hrud introduced as enemies.

And an Ambull.

Remember that artwork from the game has one of those in it.

Chikout wrote:
The most exciting part of that news is that it looks like they won't just be doing rules for existing models, but will be releasing new bespoke minis for the game. I would love to see an Exodite finally get made by GW, and the Hrud introduced as enemies.

One of the Ranger's card is for an Exodite blade, but I wouldn't expect to see actual Exodites...

Given that this is a pretty brave effort by GW, I think we should expect to see a couple of tile + baddy + mission sets and a few new explorers as we saw with old warhammer quest.

Bold first strike, backed up with known product models seems sensible. Though maybe we should look more to Shadespire as a model - pack is main interest to one player but benefits everyone. New ship does that, but also could see them paired with a new baddy or two.

I'm still hoping the rouge trader and crew from kill team will get ported over, and that beyond them we get lots and lots of minor Xenos races popping up. Tarellians, Slann degenerates, and Saharduin/Pisceans being the ones I'd wish list the most.

The AoS Overlords can be ported over as squats!

Has to be niche characters in my opinion.

As others have said, minor Xenos species, spoke of but previously unseen Adepts. That sort of thing.

What I don't want to see are things like Farseers, Lieutenants, Warboss' etc starting to get involved as Explorers. They've got far better things to be getting on with, even for a prize such as a Blackstone. Simply put, the more important and higher ranked peeps are out of the game's scale.

For Tau, perhaps give us some Earth Caste. They're the ones best placed to unravel the mysteries of the Blackstone Tech. Maybe with a Fire Caste bodyguard, and a Water Caste aide. Show us non-military types.

As for Hostiles? Keep up with the weird and the reinvented. I'm not keen on seeing existing models repackaged.

If going for Tau I love the idea of an air and or earth cast. But let all the others be non Kroot auxilia/alloed races.

Make the Tau crowd go really wild by throwing a human auciliary that makes getting around the imperium waaaay easier as everybody else hides in the back of the boat while he plays face.

Fair points Could easily take it up to 8 T'au Empire models. Demurg, Nicassar, Gue'la, Earth, Fire and Water caste. Perhaps a Vespid, and one other. Though I'd say not a Kroot, as we already have one.

I think it'd be fun if each expansion brings with it slightly more dangerous (and potentially larger) versions of the Spindle Drone, the idea being that the deeper one gets within the Fortress, the more varied and lethal it's "protectors" get.

Seems like the Eldar ranger is very fragile, popped into my local GW today and the sniper rifle had its barrel snapped as well.

As for expansions? The possibilities are endless.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I think it'd be fun if each expansion brings with it slightly more dangerous (and potentially larger) versions of the Spindle Drone, the idea being that the deeper one gets within the Fortress, the more varied and lethal it's "protectors" get.

That'd be cool. That'd be very very cool!

I quite like the card system for sorting out your Hostiles, and how it escalates whenever you hotfoot it back to the Station.

Really want to see that expanded to the point where we can properly theme an adventure. Perhaps we only want to take on the Station itself. Maybe we've blundered into a Chaos or Xenos stronghold within it, so will be facing them exclusively.

Most of all, I just want to play it! Got the lads coming round Saturday, so should whet my whistle then!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:


What I don't want to see are things like Farseers, Lieutenants, Warboss' etc starting to get involved as Explorers. They've got far better things to be getting on with, even for a prize such as a Blackstone. Simply put, the more important and higher ranked peeps are out of the game's scale.

Maybe for 'game balance' but in the setting itself, that's exactly who *would* show up there, looking to take over.

I wouldn't mind seeing chaos as the explorers. It makes sense they are searching it too so they can use it. Have them fight other parties of varying drones, robots and other hostiles

 Mysterio wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:


What I don't want to see are things like Farseers, Lieutenants, Warboss' etc starting to get involved as Explorers. They've got far better things to be getting on with, even for a prize such as a Blackstone. Simply put, the more important and higher ranked peeps are out of the game's scale.

Maybe for 'game balance' but in the setting itself, that's exactly who *would* show up there, looking to take over.

But that's exactly his point - they'd be looking to take over. When you get Marine officers and Ork Warbosses showing up, it's a full-scale war, not a party of adventurers delving into a techno-tomb. Captain Bigshot of the Important Marines isn't going to show up and leave his main force aboard the Strike Cruiser while he groups up with a Tau Ethereal, an Eldar Farseer, and a GSC Primus to go grubbing about in the depths of the Fortress looking for shiny loot.

Individuals for BSF and squads for Til Team. I can see some crossover, but I don't expect a squad of Eldar Corsairs for BSF. Maybe a single pirate prince, but not his/her retinue.

I think this will be my supply line to 40K for now, sorry Kill Team.

You could possibly see a Marine captain on a penitence crusade (or whatever it was called), like Leonatos in Bloodquest. In general though, I'd agree that leaving that level of character out is a good idea.

I would prefer, if any marine character is ever done, for them to be a Blackshield who could be either looking for repentance, or has just run away from his Chapter and is currently falling. Even a Fallen, looking for something would fit nicely as a solo marine.

I want to see "build your own" kits. Like, here's what a Ranger can take. Here's what a Soldier can take. And kit that lets you build each of them.

It won't happen. But one thing I miss in dungeon crawlers like this is playing *your* character. Typically, like BSF, you have to play *their* character.

Plus, I love kits over solos. BSF would be a great excuse to provide interesting bits.