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2019/12/30 20:09:31
Subject: Star War :The Mandalorian discussion - please use spoiler tags
That's fine, but if the Mando gets 2, 3, 4 or more seasons, it 100% makes sense to have Boba in at LEAST 1 episode. And by "makes sense" I don't just mean from a narrative "it could happen" or "it should happen because X" (though I do mean those as well) but mainly from a fan service, Disney would generate TONS of free publicity and merchandising opportunities, standpoint.
There are loads of Boba fans out there, whether some people like him or not, or want hi to stay dead. Disney would miss an opportunity by not having him show up EVENTUALLY.
Spoiler:
And with the Dark Saber making an appearance, they are clearly not afraid to dip into the larger lore. The Dark saber is so unique, it may as well be a character at this point
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That's fine, but if the Mando gets 2, 3, 4 or more seasons, it 100% makes sense to have Boba in at LEAST 1 episode. And by "makes sense" I don't just mean from a narrative "it could happen" or "it should happen because X" (though I do mean those as well) but mainly from a fan service, Disney would generate TONS of free publicity and merchandising opportunities, standpoint.
There are loads of Boba fans out there, whether some people like him or not, or want hi to stay dead. Disney would miss an opportunity by not having him show up EVENTUALLY.
Spoiler:
And with the Dark Saber making an appearance, they are clearly not afraid to dip into the larger lore. The Dark saber is so unique, it may as well be a character at this point
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He's dead. He's boring. He's dead boring.
They created a character 100x more interesting than a throw-away background character. No reason to feth up continuity and storytelling just to jam in an almost visually identical dead guy with no personality or plot relevance, especially not for the sake of jamming him in.
BrotherGecko wrote: I thought Vader spent the years between episode 3 and episode 4 butchering all traces of the Jedi? I also thought the Empire spent a decent amount of effort actively suppressing Jedi history?
Doesn't episode 4 start with Luke not knowing what the Jedi or the force is? So I don't think your average galactic citizen gets much education on Republic history with regards to the force or jedi.
To be fair, Luke came across as pretty clueless and ignorant in general.
Also to be fair, the whole point of using the Callow Youth (and Farmboy) trope is so you have someone for the other characters to explain at so the _audience_ can learn things.
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Efficiency is the highest virtue.
2019/12/30 22:08:41
Subject: Star War :The Mandalorian discussion - please use spoiler tags
He's dead. He's boring. He's dead boring. They created a character 100x more interesting than a throw-away background character. No reason to feth up continuity and storytelling just to jam in an almost visually identical dead guy with no personality or plot relevance, especially not for the sake of jamming him in.
Will have to disagree, but I would also think that all of you that seem to HATE Boba, or even the IDEA of Boba popping up in some new SW would relish the thought of Boba showing up specifically as a foil that Din Djarin defeats, thereby proving that he is the superior Mando (which we all know already, but it would be cool to see)
Heck, you could even have Din make a comment or reference to Boba not being a true Mando. I find it really hard to believe that someone could LOVE Din Djarin as the Mando, yet completely HATE Boba. Din is basically a "competent" version of Boba, complete with Boba's ORIGINAL look for the holiday special. His armour even sometimes has a chameleon chrome look that gives it a teal appearance, like Boba's original scene. That pronged disintegrator is pulled directly from Boba's debut
Having Boba be a minor antagonist for an episode or 2 just seems like the BEST of both worlds -You get to bring back Boba for the fans (like me) who want him to show up and -You get to see him get his butt kicked by a superior Mando
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Mostly what we hate is that every other word out of you in this thread is "ZOMG BOBA FETT".
Fett was an interesting concept (albeit for completely ludicrous reasons) in the early days that ended up being mercilessly slaughtered by Lucas in the prequel trilogy and tie in material. Let. Him. Stay. Dead.
The story works perfectly fine without him, and bringing him back would serve no purpose beyond spanking off a very small and noisy minority that frankly doesnt deserve to be catered to.
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2019/12/30 22:44:36
Subject: Star War :The Mandalorian discussion - please use spoiler tags
Sterling191 wrote: Mostly what we hate is that every other word out of you in this thread is "ZOMG BOBA FETT".
Congrats. I am now done with this thread.
Just wanted to have a discussion about a particular character and have been repeatedly shot down. Hint taken. Good bye
What is the Dark Sabre? That’s not a thing I know.
Spoiler:
The Darksabre is a unique and ancient black-bladed lightsabre crafted by the first Mandalorian to join the Jedi Order.
It was eventually stolen back by the Mandos, and has popped up a few times in their history, often as the weapon of whomever ruled Mandalore.
In more recent Star Wars-related properties, Pre Vizsla (voiced by Jon Favreau), a descendant of the original Mandalore who was a Jedi, had the weapon and used it in an attempted coup of Mandalor during the Clone Wars. After the coup, Darth Maul killed Pre and took the sabre for himself. He used it to fight against Darth Sidious when the Sith Lord came looking for (and defeated) his old apprentice. Maul eventually escaped and reclaimed the Darksabre, using it quite a bit after that.
Somehow the blade ended back up on Dathomir, and fell into the hands of Sabine Wren, a Mandalorian who was part of a cell of the Rebellion. After various events, Sabine gave the sabre to Bo-Katan Kryze, who would then go on to lead Mandalore, like many who wielded the Darksabre before her.
And then somehow it fell into Moff Gideon's hands. We'll have to see how that came about.
Calling it now.
Not all Mandolorians are dead, and sometimes they take off their helmets.
I bet Gedion took off his helmet...
2020/01/01 09:41:15
Subject: Star War :The Mandalorian discussion - please use spoiler tags
He's dead. He's boring. He's dead boring.
They created a character 100x more interesting than a throw-away background character. No reason to feth up continuity and storytelling just to jam in an almost visually identical dead guy with no personality or plot relevance, especially not for the sake of jamming him in.
Will have to disagree, but I would also think that all of you that seem to HATE Boba, or even the IDEA of Boba popping up in some new SW would relish the thought of Boba showing up specifically as a foil that Din Djarin defeats, thereby proving that he is the superior Mando (which we all know already, but it would be cool to see)
Heck, you could even have Din make a comment or reference to Boba not being a true Mando.
I find it really hard to believe that someone could LOVE Din Djarin as the Mando, yet completely HATE Boba. Din is basically a "competent" version of Boba, complete with Boba's ORIGINAL look for the holiday special. His armour even sometimes has a chameleon chrome look that gives it a teal appearance, like Boba's original scene. That pronged disintegrator is pulled directly from Boba's debut
Having Boba be a minor antagonist for an episode or 2 just seems like the BEST of both worlds
-You get to bring back Boba for the fans (like me) who want him to show up and
-You get to see him get his butt kicked by a superior Mando
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You don't have to hate Boba to want to keep him out of this. In fact, those who love Boba Fett have the most reason not to want to see him overused, ruined, contorted, and trotted out for marketing purposes. Let the mysterious stranger stay mysterious and strange.
Also, your idea that Mando fans would be happy to see the two characters have a ...helmet...measuring contest is troubling. That's a weird and limiting idea of how fiction works and an insulting view of the fandom.
He's dead. He's boring. He's dead boring.
They created a character 100x more interesting than a throw-away background character. No reason to feth up continuity and storytelling just to jam in an almost visually identical dead guy with no personality or plot relevance, especially not for the sake of jamming him in.
Will have to disagree, but I would also think that all of you that seem to HATE Boba,
No hate, just exactly what I said. There isn't any reason to throw a dead, throwaway character into a series for the lulz.
Especially not when this series is has potential, and the movies (which do this kind of simplistic marketing junk constantly) are pretty bad from a storytelling perspective. This kind of Look, look! See, see! (brandish action figure) is destructive to a good story.
There isn't any reason to do it
Efficiency is the highest virtue.
2020/01/01 18:08:30
Subject: Star War :The Mandalorian discussion - please use spoiler tags
Right. Just do what builds the best story. Not a never ending conga line of cameos for because. What purpose does Boba, whos dead, serve to this story?
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2020/01/01 19:27:45
Subject: Star War :The Mandalorian discussion - please use spoiler tags
Cameos can be fun and can even drive the story if done well.
Fan service is a thing, and so far the show has done a good job giving it to us in a way that didn’t feel forced or obnoxious.
Hutt Pet Rat on a Stick? Freezing folks for transport? Ice cream maker? Disintegrations? Droids left over and stuck on a planet since ANH? A no-droids allowed bar now being run by droids? Cocky guy in the same booth?
How many people are doing to watch Clone Wars and Rebels and how many are more excited about the coming season or Clone Wars because of the appearance of a saber?
2020/01/01 23:32:15
Subject: Star War :The Mandalorian discussion - please use spoiler tags
d-usa wrote: Cameos can be fun and can even drive the story if done well.
A "cameo" or live action version of Bo-Katan or Sabine Wren who be more appropriate since either of them could be alive and be pertinent to the story since both of them wielded at some point the darksaber. To make a cameo of Bobba Fett, one would have to explain how he survived his apparent death in Return of the Jedi and doesn't have the excuse of Palpatine of being one of the most powerful Sith in history. Ironically they could even make the reveal that the Armorer is actually one of them in some sort of self-imposed exile and penitence. To my surprise, she didn't die in the last episode.
2020/01/01 23:37:55
Subject: Star War :The Mandalorian discussion - please use spoiler tags
Mando Season 2 will feature Mando on a side quest to stop Boba from manufacturing Death Sticks to raise the credits needed to pay for his treatment to cure the cancer he got from prolonged exposure to Sarlacc digestive juices.
2020/01/02 09:46:26
Subject: Re:Star War :The Mandalorian discussion - please use spoiler tags
If they HAD to do Boba Fett I'd rather them borrow some elements of the comic twin engines of destruction and have it come up that Boba Fett is ambushing Mandalorians in an attempt to reconstruct his suit.
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2020/01/02 16:05:35
Subject: Re:Star War :The Mandalorian discussion - please use spoiler tags
I really dug the whole series... I just hope it doesn't turn into a "Mandalorian&BabyYoda" teamup. In Season 2, find Baby Yoda's home and start up a new story.
In last ep, I really enjoyed the two speeder troopers. Them trying to shoot at a can and failing to hit it was hilarious.
2020/01/02 19:28:52
Subject: Re:Star War :The Mandalorian discussion - please use spoiler tags
Chewie wrote: I really dug the whole series... I just hope it doesn't turn into a "Mandalorian&BabyYoda" teamup. In Season 2, find Baby Yoda's home and start up a new story.
I wonder if we will get a Mark Hamil cameo as Luke Skywalker. There isn't any other Jedi than him and his students anyway.
2020/01/02 19:34:39
Subject: Re:Star War :The Mandalorian discussion - please use spoiler tags
I wonder if we will get a Mark Hamil cameo as Luke Skywalker. There isn't any other Jedi than him and his students anyway.
Oh you sweet summer child. There's always another Jedi (or Sith, or non-traditional Force user of highly variable alignment) hiding in the next cave over if a story requires it.
2020/01/02 19:42:57
Subject: Star War :The Mandalorian discussion - please use spoiler tags
d-usa wrote: Luke was The Last Jedi, so Baby Yoda will die.
Or.. not be a Jedi.
But then, Conner was the last Immortal, and look how that panned out.
Plus the teaser is Ahsoka Tano, or that's what Grotsnik is implying.
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Now that the season is over I binged the whole thing over the weekend.
I gotta say, it felt like I was watching a live action episode of the Clone Wars...and it was awesome
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2020/01/03 03:51:20
Subject: Star War :The Mandalorian discussion - please use spoiler tags
Lance845 wrote: Right. Just do what builds the best story. Not a never ending conga line of cameos for because. What purpose does Boba, whos dead, serve to this story?
I'm not 100% but I believe Kathleen went on record stating that Boba is not dead and will make an appearance in future star wars media.