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 Future War Cultist wrote:
To this day I am still disappointed that the Jedi turned out to be a bunch of complete spankers.

Beautifully addressed by Yoda during Rebels, where he shoulders the blame for utterly failing to see Palpatine’s manipulations.

You should watch Rebels. It’s ace. Not you, Zeb.

I think my plan is to watch Clone Wars and Rebels once I finish watching DS9. Is there a proper watch order for those series? Or just watch all of CW then R?

I'd watch clone wars first, then rebels. BUT its important to note that the story arcs in Clone wars (especially in the first few seasons) are NOT at all in chronological order (though this becomes less of an issue as seasons pass. Im sure there is some guide somewhere on the internet that will put the story arcs into order for you if you really want to watch them that way.

Don't forget the original Clone Wars, the hand animated one.

No longer canon but awesome.

princeyg wrote:
I'd watch clone wars first, then rebels. BUT its important to note that the story arcs in Clone wars (especially in the first few seasons) are NOT at all in chronological order (though this becomes less of an issue as seasons pass. Im sure there is some guide somewhere on the internet that will put the story arcs into order for you if you really want to watch them that way.

https://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-the-clone-wars-chronological-episodeorder

I'm sloooowly making my way through Clone Wars. Only 26 episodes in, but it is tedious so far. My bro-in-law says it gets better and watching it before watching Rebels makes Rebels even better.

First season is a bit wonky. But donstuck with it.

Clone Wars is just kind of a slog to watch the whole thing IMO. There's too many episodes that are just "this one background Jedi that didn't get screen time kills a bunch of droids". That said, the arcs that are great are fantastic, but the show is largely self contained enough that they can be watched on their own. I've seen a few guides online. I think that's the way to go.

We’re watching through the first season. The “Jedi Jar Jar” episode may have broken me and my wife, but my son went nuts for it.

Oh man, I actually liked the Jar Jar episode, I thought it went a long way to making the character at least tolerable.

 Manchu wrote:
Maybe it’s just because this season is overflowing with established characters (and concepts) but I really hope everything from here out is original content.

As much as I love Rogue Squadron, there's a point to be made for that, too. Maybe conflate a couple of the EU force user ideas into one new character, that can do a bit of fan service to several old storylines at oncewhile still being new.

I'd totally be ok with them subsuming Corran Horn and Kyle Katarn into one character. I love them both, but I can definitely see the overlap.

 Manchu wrote:
Oh man, I actually liked the Jar Jar episode, I thought it went a long way to making the character at least tolerable.

I feel like one of the weirdest things to happen in the Clone Wars animated series is the redemption of Jar Jar Binks' character. Both the Jar Jar episodes (I'm including the three parter in season 5 as 1 'episode') are pretty good and the character doesn't ruin them. It's not ground breaking, but considering where we started it's pretty damn impressive.

 Captain Joystick wrote:
I think I posted this earlier but I think it bears repeating.

So, um... They're back.




Spoilers for episode 2 - and possibly ice fishing.

Super-powered genocide baby? That checks out.

 LordofHats wrote:

 Manchu wrote:
Oh man, I actually liked the Jar Jar episode, I thought it went a long way to making the character at least tolerable.

I feel like one of the weirdest things to happen in the Clone Wars animated series is the redemption of Jar Jar Binks' character. Both the Jar Jar episodes (I'm including the three parter in season 5 as 1 'episode') are pretty good and the character doesn't ruin them. It's not ground breaking, but considering where we started it's pretty damn impressive.

Jar Jar's not THAT bad. He's hardly the only obnoxious character in the franchise and mostly suffers from being grossly overused in one movie. He's basically 3PO, but never stops talking and for some reason gets an extended action scene.

An action scene that involves slap stick and prat falls that takes place in the middle of both the duel of fates and a space battle where a kid accidentally blows up a mother ship.

Regardless of WHY Jar Jar gets his bad rap those reasons make it 100% deserved. After all, thats the movie we have.

Yeah, I actually enjoy a lot of the Jar Jar centric arcs in TCW. His showing in the Malevolence arc is a miss, but the Jedi Jar Jar, Gungan General, and the one in the second to last season (I think) where he is pretty fun.

Honestly, the only arcs I kinda switch off for in TCW are the Cad Bane stuff, the Onderon stuff, and the D-Squad arc (D-Squad's only redeeming point being Gregor) - I generally enjoy the rest.

Jar Jar makes sense as a very occasional mood lightener in a show aimed (also) at kids.

 Lance845 wrote:
An action scene that involves slap stick and prat falls that takes place in the middle of both the duel of fates and a space battle where a kid accidentally blows up a mother ship.

Regardless of WHY Jar Jar gets his bad rap those reasons make it 100% deserved. After all, thats the movie we have.

No doubt. I'm just saying there's nothing inherently wrong with the character if used appropriately. He just wasn't... used.... appropriately.

Now I'm recalling that 3PO gets an action scene in AotC.... at least it was more undrestated but.... bah, I thought I'd really bleached most of that film.

So Disney just announced Obi Wan. With Hayden as Darth.

And The Bad Batch.

And Andor.

And Ashoka, to take place in the same timeframe as Mando.

Jeepsy peeps.

I think they've abandoned movies altogether and gone full TV.


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Oh, and Rangers of the New Republic, again in Mando timeframe, which could be _anything_

I'm cool with that. SW as a more long form story telling has always been better then the movies which are real hit or miss.

That being said I wish they would head into this golden age or jump forward 1000 years into the future. Get away from episodes 1-9. That gaks been explored to death.

Not a surprise, Disney+ has been a huge success (70m subscribers, the Netflix CEO claimed he'd be surprised if it.picked up 20m prior to launch.) I also suspect that Mulan did highly satisfactory numbers given prevailing conditions at the time.

A lot of people have been predicting streaming to overtake cinema in Disney's priority list for a while. Apart from Black Widow for some reason.

And Visions, an animated series from Japan.

And Lando.

And The Acolyte, in the dying days of the High Republic.

And A Droid Story, staring R2-D2 and C-3PO

And a film by Taika Waititi

And a Willow series and Indiana Jones 5 BECAUSE WHY THE HECK NOT

 Graphite wrote:

I think they've abandoned movies altogether and gone full TV.

I think that perhaps you're right... In other threads I've talked about Warners "Starve out Cinemas" conspiracy theory. I think this is part of the same gameplan, but from Disney's point of view.

That’s a heap of 80’s inspired projects seemingly brainstormed on a heap of 80’s inspired drugs.

I think you mean Indiana Jones 4.

And I don't understand, the internet told me that Kathleen Kennedy and Disney killed Star Wars.

Oh, and Rangers of the New Republic, again in Mando timeframe, which could be _anything_

I think it probably started life as the Cara Dune spinoff, and may proceed along similar lines just minus Gina Carano/Cara Dune. In the last episode of Mando she

Have they actually ditched her? I know she's made a fairly large number of people angry

And I don't understand, the internet told me that Kathleen Kennedy and Disney killed Star Wars.

Something can be bad and commercially justify continued investment.

Besides, Jon Favreau saved it at the last gasp.

Jon Favreau is a weird way to say Dave Filoni, but whatever.

And no, they haven't ditched Gina yet, at least not publicly, but we'll see I guess. I struggle to imagine that they would stick with her as much of what she has done to provoke fan outcry is antithetical to all the inclusivity stuff that Lucasfilm and Disney claim to stand for, etc. Arguably, shes been slowly making it worse by doubling down on things and continuing to provoke anger rather than just backing off and finding less incendiary things to tweet about.

I think Rangers of the New Republic is going to be following along with the sort of space cops X-Wing pilots.