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Geifer wrote: As is so often the case, at least we get a good Pitch Meeting out of a dodgy thing.
The weirdest thing about it is that the entire concept basically has 4-5 jokes and just recycles them constantly, but by pinning the tail to the donkey every time the jokes remain fairly entertaining, even enhanced by your knowledge that the joke is coming.
It's almost like doing the same thing over and over again can work as long as you're just just phoning it in and have a strong understanding of basic narrative principles.
Are Pitch Meetings good, or are they good at knowing their audience and respecting them?
Voss wrote: The fact that Pedro wasn't even there for parts of it says a lot. Not just the final scene, but whenever there was a conflict with Last of Us filming, he was over there and they just had someone else in the suit and dubbed lines in later.
Isn't that what they did in previous season too? With Pedro Pascal not being on stage on many occasion with a body double doing the physical presence and him doing the line as a voice actor; basically the same deal than with Darth Vader and James Earl Johns?
I have no idea if they did it that way the previous season, never seen it mentioned before.
As for Vader... no, not really. At least as an adult (or even as a teenager), I have never really had any illusion that Jones was anything but the voice of Vader. The actor in the suit was basically irrelevant, with a limited range of motion for physical acting. The only thing that mattered with Vader was the line delivery. For Mando, from day 1 there was a lot of cheerleading about what an amazing actor Pedro Pascal is. If he's often not there and given that the dialogue is often trite recitation of things that are happening or things he will be doing, Pedro is what becomes kinda irrelevant.
Disney has effectively punctured the illusion and the whole bubble deflated.
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I suspect there was little other outcome with the variety of animation styles at play. I'm curious how many of them are affected by the language as well. There were a couple in season 1 that were DRAMATICALLY better in Japanese.
I got more out of this season than the first one. Not sure if that's because I have a better idea what to expect of Visions or because the second season is less subject to Japanese anime conventions. I'm inclined to say it worked better for me because it's closer to conventional Star Wars.
Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone?
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Season 1, being anime heavy really surprised me, as I’ve never really got on with anime as a rule. Visions challenged that. Whilst there’s one or two I probably wouldn’t bother watching again, I didn’t find any torturous to watch.
Season 2 has a greater variety of styles and influences. The Aardman one confuses me. On the one hands, it’s Aardman’s usual, gentle, charming style. On the other? It just felt a bit try-hard?
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Defacing Statues was a good one. Another exploration of light mixing with dark.
Train Bandit King was ok. Kid was dumb. Saber fight was hella sweet. Probably full of cultural references I don’t get?
Pit was meh.
Plushy Miners was cool. The style was… odd. It wasn’t bad, but I don’t think I’d want to see it used in a full series myself. Would appeal to kids I imagine. I think it had the most intriguing story though. I’d say I want to see more of it but I’m not sure what else you’d have to tell.
Hm, I’m missing two of them. Must not have left much of an impression? One thing I’m thinking as I write these is none of them left me wanting more. Some of them told nice stories that I did like, but nothing I wanted to see more of. Season one had several that I would love to see a full series based on, and this season just lacked that.
I didn't love any of them as much as I loved the best of Season 1 (The Duel, The Twins, The Ninth Jedi, The Elder) but I will say they were more consistent and they absolutely did a phenomenal job of bringing in a huge variety of cultural lenses to the series. I think it created some safer stories told with more interesting perspectives.
Impressions on each:
1. Sith - One of the best animated of the bunch with a really cool visual style, particularly once we got out of the bunker into the more detailed world. Bare bones story, but a lot of style.
2. Screecher's Reach - A slow burn that didn't initially sell me, but ended up telling a compelling story by the end. Sound design really shone here.
3. In the Stars - This one really didn't do it for me. The stop motion was cool with some notably excellent bits, but it was also far and away the most by the numbers story, awkwardly told that I mostly remember for having a Death Star level cascading failure design in the end.
4. I Am Your Mother - Fun Wallace and Gromit style silliness, but also kind of tame. I enjoyed it more than I expected based on the opening minutes, but it would take remarkably little to make this not Star Wars.
5. Journey to the Dark Head - Easily one of the top entries this time around. Team Korra was clearly going for a full pilot similar to Production IGs "The Ninth Jedi" from last time. The only thing keeping it from taking top honors from me is some surprisingly incomplete fight animations toward the end.
6. The Spy Dancer - This one takes the crown, IMO. Initially I wasn't wowed by the art style and expected something of a Fantasia expression of pretty pictures. Instead we get probably the best realized story of the entire anthology and some actually wonderfully designed and animated choreography. Definitely a pleasant surprise.
7. The Bandits of Golak - I would not take issue with anyone declaring this the best of the bunch. There's nothing truly unique in the story and the little girl's totally irresponsible actions that get quite a few people killed are hard to waive off, but the blend of cultures here shows so much love from 88 Pictures. Probably the one that has me curious to look into their other work.
8. The Pit - This story probably has a little more faith in humanity than I do, but its a solid story. Felt a little slow and a little rushed at the same time. Definitely could have been better. I kept expecting it to really wow me and never quite got there.
9. Aau's Song - I feel like this would have been better suited elsewhere in the lineup instead of the anchor. Fluffy, fun and rather beautiful, but didn't really have the punch to feel like a satisfying finale.
I an interesting bit of trivia. Some have done the math and figured out that the new Star Wars game (Jedi Survivor) takes place the same year as the Obi-Wan miniseries.
Spoilers for both
Spoiler:
At the end of Jedi Survivor Vader and Cere Junda (one of the surviving Jedi from Order 66 who was also in Fallen Order) duel again and while Cere puts up a good fight, dropping things on Vader and setting him on fire, but of course Vader kills her. It is speculated that that is the reason Vader is in the bacta tank at the beginning of Obi-Wan as he is recovering from his fight when he gets that force tingle.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
So, the 'High Republic' show 'the Acolyte' looks to be cancelled, and the showrunner fired.
A producer was fired back in March and filed a lawsuit over it, she was apparently axed for unspecified reasons.
High Republic seems cursed. There are novels and such (poor, based on quick impressions), but everything for screens or games seems to be trapped in a soul-sucking void. Which probably means more recycling of the same old, same old.
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Voss wrote: High Republic seems cursed. There are novels and such (poor, based on quick impressions), but everything for screens or games seems to be trapped in a soul-sucking void. Which probably means more recycling of the same old, same old.
I'd use the word 'aggressively mediocre' rather than cursed.
They took the idea of going back to the golden age of the Republic and the Jedi and they were too afraid to own any of that idea.
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First novel is quite enjoyable. Star Wars, but not as we know it.
Second one I got as a Cursed Audio Book. I say Cursed, because every time (twice) I’ve tried to use it for commute entertainment,mmy sodding car broke down. Trust me. That’s not something you want to repeat more than twice.
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I seem to remember expressing interest in The Acolyte. So I guess this sucks. But who knows, it might have ended up like Obi-Wan or the sequel trilogy and that would suck even worse.
Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone?
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
Final trailer - looks good hope it doesn't disappoint but with Dave at the helm it should be in safe hands. Double episode premiere confirmed. Looks like Sabine was training as a Jedi at some point. Nice to see Thrawn at last and the Purrgils will feature again - from some of the leaks a lot of the footage is from the early episodes. Nice flip of the "I am no Jedi" line.
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Quick Screengrab of the fleet.
I’m seeing CR-90s, MC-90 (I think? Maybe MC-80?) and a Hammerhead Corvette. Not familiar with the central or top right Mon Cal ships are, but I’m pretty sure they’re the same model. Frigate of some kind I reckon.
Oh and the rear of a Nebulon B.
Just a split second after the camera pans right and we see another Mon Cal ship, possibly bigger than the one in the screen grab.
Also just noticed the image contains what looks like a Cr-90 with a bigger engine block in the background. Can confirm that’s just an artefact of the grab blurring it a bit.
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still have my fingers crossed for a smart Thrawn rather than one determined to fail on the same basis that Palp did as in the galaxy is far too vast to be "properly" ruled, especially if you keep making stupid "Ieggs in one basket" mega-weapons rather than a big fleet, although he's kind of on a loser as the First Order has to happen...t
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"AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED."