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Whilst in every interview I’ve seen he’s been a terminal bore?
Antony Daniels is such a core part of Star Wars.
He’s the first main character on-screen, alongside R2. And from that moment? His mannerisms and cadence informed every other human shaped Droid. And from that fact, in his own way, defined Star Wars.
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Something else that just occurred to me ... In the original Thrawn stories, he was using cloning to achieve his nefarious goal, specifically cloning an old Jedi Master, and Luke Skywalker.
Enoch, it has to noted, seems a little short to be a stormtrooper...
There has been a lot of cloning of late with Gideon. And going forward, the First Order solves its manpower problem by kidnapping kids by the thousands while nobody's looking. Mass cloning seems to be a dead end for the bad guys for the time being. Not sure if there is any desire on part of the writers to have Thrawn dabble in it, too, if it doesn't go anywhere in the long run.
It would effectively just give shiny mask guy a quirkyish backstory. Nothing wrong with that per se, but seems kind of pointless as a statement about Thrawn.
On a side note, hopefully he doesn't get phasmaed. He seems to have achieved instant popularity. It would be a shame to let that go to waste.
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It would effectively just give shiny mask guy a quirkyish backstory.
I mean, if Shorty McGoldface was cloned from, say, some particularly handy material (as was the case with Luuke in the original Heir to the Empire series), he would potentially be the set up for a climactic saber duel with some combination of Ahsoka, Sabine and Ezra.
But, again, I'm probably reading far too much into it. Was just something that jumped out from the fact that he seems noticably shorter than pretty much every other trooper shown in Thrawn's gaggle.
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Part of me wonders if Enoch is a blank character right now. A design long desired finally finding a place on the screen. And who or what is actually under that rather fetching helmet, is yet to be fully decided.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Also? Enoch can’t be a Luke Clone.
Yes Luke’s hand is out there, somewhere. And we know the associated Lightsaber ends up with Maz Kanata.
But? Thrawn was cast into this exile before Luke joined the Rebellion. He likely doesn’t even know who Luke is, let alone that he had his had lopped off and where might be best to start looking for it.
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Oh, I didn't realize that the suggestion was that shiny mask guy is literally Luke. Yeah, as explained above that's just not possible.
Not until we get Obi-Wan Kenobi 2: Attack of the Cloners, in which Luke is kidnapped by the selectively aware Empire in order to harvest a tissue sample and Obi-Wan must break him out of the cloning facility with the help of a slightly bigger coat. Luckily Luke is kept sedated for almost all of the season and we can all pretend that continuity is maintained.
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But? Thrawn was cast into this exile before Luke joined the Rebellion. He likely doesn’t even know who Luke is, let alone that he had his had lopped off and where might be best to start looking for it.
insaniak wrote: Something else that just occurred to me ... In the original Thrawn stories, he was using cloning to achieve his nefarious goal, specifically cloning an old Jedi Master, and Luke Skywalker.
Enoch, it has to noted, seems a little short to be a stormtrooper...
Probably just a coincidence, though.
Enoch and Luke are both biblical names…
But according to subtitles it’s not spelled “Enooch”, so he can’t be a Thrawn clone.
Enoch, biblically speaking, is often considered to have entered heaven without dying, something about the Lord reached down and took him or some such.
Given what we've seen with the inquisitor and the now revealed heavy involvement of the Night Sisters (I saw a headline today pointing out one of the Mothers is Claudia Black, which I'd completely missed) it's not impossible that Enoch is some riff on that.
Given the Kintsugi visible on some much of the Stormtrooper armour, alongside the scarlet wraps, I wouldn't be surprised if Enoch is the only remaining living Stormtrooper, or is enchanted to a higher level than the other more zombie level grunts.
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so, question for those who are familiar with the nightsisters stuff:
how much free will/original personality do those raised from the dead by night sister magic actually have? are they just he same person brought back to life? a simulation/facsimile of that person? The orginal person but under some sort of mind control that prevents rebellion?
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The reanimated Nightsisters in Clone Wars and Jedi Fallen Order seem pretty mindless. They have enough intelligence to use basic strategy, but seem completely motivated by the orders they're given by a living Nightsister,
There are Nightsister spirits in Rebels that appear to be intact personalities looking to possess a body so they can get back to doing whatever they were doing when they were alive.
The impression I get is that Nightsister magic covers a lot of different things and has a wide range of possibilities. If shiny mask guy was too important to lose to death, I reckon it wouldn't go against what's been shown so far to bring him back from the dead with his personality intact.
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Azreal13 wrote: Given what we've seen with the inquisitor and the now revealed heavy involvement of the Night Sisters (I saw a headline today pointing out one of the Mothers is Claudia Black, which I'd completely missed) it's not impossible that Enoch is some riff on that.
Seems like the Mothers have serious geek cred...
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insaniak wrote: Something else that just occurred to me ... In the original Thrawn stories, he was using cloning to achieve his nefarious goal, specifically cloning an old Jedi Master, and Luke Skywalker.
Enoch, it has to noted, seems a little short to be a stormtrooper...
Probably just a coincidence, though.
Goldmask could be zombie Rhuk or something like that. Wouldn't really make a lot of sense given his death in Rebels and probably requires too much explanation to be worthwhile. My guess is he's just a new character with a cool design to serve as a more meaningful henchman to fight later.
No chance for Thrawn to have recovered Rhuk’s crispy corpse, as he’d been dragged into Hyperspace before the Dome had lift off, and Rhuk was a crispy critter in the shield generator reactor at that point.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Though I am wondering how Thrawn and Ezra survived that trip, given the Purgil had poshed the windows in!
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: No chance for Thrawn to have recovered Rhuk’s crispy corpse, as he’d been dragged into Hyperspace before the Dome had lift off, and Rhuk was a crispy critter in the shield generator reactor at that point.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Though I am wondering how Thrawn and Ezra survived that trip, given the Purgil had poshed the windows in!
Star Wars has a lot of 'open to space' stuff. Certainly no one seems to want to don suits during combat.
Star Wars humans are immune to sudden shifts in pressure. Ahsoka stepped outside of her ship above the cloud layer without even popping her ears.
I can’t even think of any incident where the void of space was a danger to a character outside of that one scene in The Last Jedi, and that movie had all kinds of issues with canon.
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Again with people thinking that venting to space is immediately deadly. Its not. Not even close. Unpleasant yes. But no part of you is going to explode. What will kill you is suffocation, not temperature or pressure differences.
So assuming you don't get pulled away from your ship by the decompression or killed by debris, it is completely possible to get back inside before you die. Remember that space is not a negative pressure vessel, it is 0 pressure. Going from 1 atmosphere to 0 atmospheres is not an immediately deadly experience.
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Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
Ahsoka isn’t human though. Humanoid, yes. We know some species can canonically withstand vacuum for a period. And she was wearing her ear muffs which could’ve helped.
But to be kicking in a presumably extended vacuum?
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Grey Templar wrote: Again with people thinking that venting to space is immediately deadly. Its not. Not even close. Unpleasant yes. But no part of you is going to explode. What will kill you is suffocation, not temperature or pressure differences.
So assuming you don't get pulled away from your ship by the decompression or killed by debris, it is completely possible to get back inside before you die. Remember that space is not a negative pressure vessel, it is 0 pressure. Going from 1 atmosphere to 0 atmospheres is not an immediately deadly experience.
Everything I’ve heard about sudden depressurization of airplanes makes me think we should see some kind of reaction to sudden exposure to space. Wooziness at least.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Ahsoka isn’t human though. Humanoid, yes. We know some species can canonically withstand vacuum for a period. And she was wearing her ear muffs which could’ve helped.
But to be kicking in a presumably extended vacuum?
Technically humans in Star Wars aren't specifically humans. Just incredibly similar in most ways like different crab evolutions.
No worries. Rebels was long enough ago that I've had to look up most of the details myself. I wasn't even certain Rhuk had died given how shy the show got about such things in the final season.
It’s off screen, but he’s definitely a crispy critter!
Very much looking forward to Wednesday’s latest entry. But, with just two more to go including that one? Seems timely to remind folk Ahsoka is expected to be multi-season, and building to a film cross over with Mando and Skellington Crew, so don’t expect anything terribly conclusive!
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Grey Templar wrote: Again with people thinking that venting to space is immediately deadly. Its not. Not even close. Unpleasant yes. But no part of you is going to explode. What will kill you is suffocation, not temperature or pressure differences.
So assuming you don't get pulled away from your ship by the decompression or killed by debris, it is completely possible to get back inside before you die. Remember that space is not a negative pressure vessel, it is 0 pressure. Going from 1 atmosphere to 0 atmospheres is not an immediately deadly experience.
Everything I’ve heard about sudden depressurization of airplanes makes me think we should see some kind of reaction to sudden exposure to space. Wooziness at least.
Airplanes depressurizing is dangerous not because of the actual pressure difference. It is the debris/getting sucked out and not being able to breathe.
If anything, airplane depressurization is more dangerous because there will be high winds throwing stuff around and trying to suck you out even after the initial event. In space its one suck and then stillness.
Space decompression could be survived basically the same way as you survive a high altitude airplane one. IE: You get oxygen, somehow. Obviously airplane oxygen masks wouldn't work in space because they aren't vacuum sealed. But you could probably make emergency helmets which can seal around your neck(or potentially even just your nose and mouth) and give you a few precious minutes of oxygen. The rest of your body will be fine in a vacuum.
Any gaps in this logic can be covered by force powers if necessary. For actual pressure changes to be deadly, you need a change of multiple atmospheres. The famous Byford Dolphin incident was a decompression from 9 atmospheres to 1. That is many orders of magnitude worse than going from 1 to 0. The difference between those is suffocation/dodging debris and getting turned into hamburger over the course of a few milliseconds.
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Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
Very much looking forward to Wednesday’s latest entry. But, with just two more to go including that one? Seems timely to remind folk Ahsoka is expected to be multi-season, and building to a film cross over with Mando and Skellington Crew, so don’t expect anything terribly conclusive!
Grey Templar wrote: Airplanes depressurizing is dangerous not because of the actual pressure difference. It is the debris/getting sucked out and not being able to breathe.
Yep. What kills you in an airplane depressurization incident is usually the impact with the ground, not the immediate loss of pressure. What makes a pressure loss so dangerous is that the time of useful consciousness before hypoxia takes away your ability to function is measured in seconds at typical airline cruising altitudes. You have a few seconds to get your oxygen mask on if you want to have any hope of escaping to a safe altitude. If you fail you'll be alive for quite a while longer, you'll just be passed out in your seat as the plane loses control and breaks up in a vertical dive. You only die from lack of oxygen if the autopilot holds the plane at cruising altitude for quite a while. And if you get that mask on before you pass out and lose the ability to you can survive as long as the plane's oxygen tanks last.
The situation is roughly the same in space. There's a bit less oxygen but the available oxygen at 30-40,000' is so close to zero that it isn't going to make much of a difference. You'll pass out within 10-20 seconds but as long as someone else can bring you in relatively promptly you'll survive with minimal damage.
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