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The trick being, the whole POINT of these shows is to sell subscriptions to D+.
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Obviously. But in this day and age of every company and their dog having their own streaming service, getting people to fork out full price for a single property is a challenge.
I wouldn't have D+ if I was only interested in MCU content, as I have most of it on DVD. If I was only interested in Star Wars, I likely would not have a continuing subscription, because there would be no point one I was caught up, particularly since, again, I have all of the movies on DVD. As it is, I only have D+ because along with those two properties, there is enough other stuff on there I'm (or my kids are) actually interested in watching. If I was only interested in Star Wars, it wouldn't be worth it... And I've spoken to people who have specifically mentioned not having D+ for precisely that reason, so it's not just me that feels that way
Which is why Disney+ in the UK is probably the best Disney+.
We get all the usual Disney fare, Nat Geo, Star Wars and Marvel. But we also get Star, which seems to be Hulu’s greatest hits, at no extra cost. That covers me for Walking Dead, American Horror Story/Stories and a bunch of other stuff which is decent.
Overall, when I consider all my streaming services, I still consider I’m getting better value for money compared to Sky TV, a satellite service comprised of hundreds upon hundreds of unwatchable channels of utter guff.
I mean sure, there’s plenty of guff on Prime, Disney+, Paramount+ and that. But as I can just pull up whatever I want to watch and dodge the guff? I’m happy.
Actually been thinking of doing a thread on streaming and whether it’s ruined our expectations, but I’m struggling to set out my thoughts in a suitably neutral way for the intro.
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LunarSol wrote: Also hating Disney and Star Wars is like... an entire industry at this point. Manufacturing outrage for profit and all that.
The YouTube critics I pay most attention to - especially The Critical Drinker - are famously criticized for 'manufacturing outrage for profit and all that'.
They rather liked Skeleton Crew, and aren't shy about saying so in their recent content.
It's almost like they're not 'manufacturing outrage for profit and all that', but offering genuinely honest critiques of what has been a VERY badly handled franchise the last ten years...
Critical Drinker isn't even close to what I consider the manufactured outrage engine. Anyone that spends more than 30 seconds editing their content is miles above the sludge I'm talking about.
And, fwiw, Star Wars has pretty much always been a badly handled franchise. There's like.... debatably 5 good movies in it and a slew of add on content whose quality varies tremendously. I know we've hit a generation nostalgic for it, but its not like the franchise was putting out anything better than what we get now 25 years ago either.
I only have D+ because it is bundled with Hulu and ESPN+ which gives me amazing access to NHL games. Otherwise, I would ditch them all for never having any decent content.
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If it’s an hour or more telling us why you didn’t like the thing, when the thing was half hour long, just collect your “Congratulations On Not Liking The Thing” special person badge instead. Then everyone can know the very important fact that You Didn’t Like The Thing without you boring their tits off.
If it’s instead somewhat constructive criticism, regardless of your overall rating of the thing? That can take time to explain.
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When I can breakdown complex financial complaints into just a page or two of a letter?
Not really. Brevity is a virtue.
Maybe I’m being unfair, but it’s based on the tedium of post Last Jedi discussion, where anything Star Wars related would soon have someone coming in to remind all and sundry They Didn’t Like The Thing. And never saying anything new.
Or. In certain cases? Clearly having never watched it, by referencing things that didn’t happen. That was fun.
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A Town Called Malus wrote: The Critical Drinker is absolutely an outrage engine. Just look at his repeated usage of one of the favoured alt-right dog whistles "the message".
What is the message? That's up to the viewer to insert their own particular brand of anti-whatever to fit.
Try watching some of his actual videos instead of taking a literal two second clip as his entire content. When the Drinker uses that particular meme, it's to point out something a woman has done in media that would get a man LYNCHED if he did it.
So - it turns out that they filmed a scene with...
Spoiler:
Jude Law's Jedi mentor - played by Yasmine Al Massri.
"This was the shortest acting job I have done but the most meaningful to the child in me.. playing a Jedi for one scene in Skeleton Crew.. I gave a speech when the crew wrapped me on set saying : you just created the first Arab female Jedi.. thank you.. the scene unfortunately Didn’t make it to the finale cut bc these things happen.. but I can not not share my experience and feelings.. even Liam rehearsed that scene with me and I got to brag about it with his friends which got me coolest mom respect for a moment"
Given how long it was twixt filming and release, maybe that’s being saved for another project? Like how the Nikto pirate first showed up in Mando, and was the sole survivor of their drubbing at the hands of the Mandalorians.
Not a whole show in itself, but a wee bit of “DNA” to tie stuff together a bit.
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You certainly won't see me complain about leaving a flashback out. The show is fine just the way it is. No sense in taking any chances by adding clutter.
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Why is the rum always gone?
Try watching some of his actual videos instead of taking a literal two second clip as his entire content. When the Drinker uses that particular meme, it's to point out something a woman has done in media that would get a man LYNCHED if he did it.
Given all the stuff men make and proceed to inform me won't get shown/considered/made etc., I am guessing any man doing dumb 'message' would be fine?
I'll be honest, I apparently know very little Critical Drinker content. I think it shows up on my feed and I ignore it.
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Geifer wrote: You certainly won't see me complain about leaving a flashback out. The show is fine just the way it is. No sense in taking any chances by adding clutter.
Yeah, its very clear where this would have had to go and it definitely would have broken up the pacing. It doesn't hurt that Jude Law tells it like a child remembers in a way that very much accomplished whatever was filmed quite effectively. It also gives him a moment of vulnerability that makes it clear that whatever monster he's become, he doesn't want to be the monster that made him. Definitely the right call removing the scene, though it would be nice to do something with it somehow.
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Looking to the future, the projects we know are coming include, and this may be a complete list…
Andor S2, coming very soon
Ahsoka S2, well into production
The Mandalorian and Grogu, filming complete, releasing in theatres in 2026
Untitled Rey movie
So there’s likely to be a period of scant Star Wars releases. Whilst I’ve enjoyed everything except the last season of Bad Batch? I think a rest will be good.
But I’m now wondering what sort of content others might like.
I wouldn’t say no to more standalone movies and shows. After all, it’s a vast galaxy, and can be adapted to a number of genres. In particular I think there’s potential in something following a Smuggler.
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Is that scanter than what we got last year? Asking for a friend with bad memory.
Like I said before, I think there are worse things than a few standalone shows to fill out the time between the original and sequel trilogy, provided they're interesting and as well made as Skeleton Crew.
And maybe a drama about a First Order logistics officer who (maybe not so) slowly succumbs to alcoholism trying to set up all the things shown in the sequels.
Geifer wrote: You certainly won't see me complain about leaving a flashback out. The show is fine just the way it is. No sense in taking any chances by adding clutter.
Yeah, its very clear where this would have had to go and it definitely would have broken up the pacing. It doesn't hurt that Jude Law tells it like a child remembers in a way that very much accomplished whatever was filmed quite effectively. It also gives him a moment of vulnerability that makes it clear that whatever monster he's become, he doesn't want to be the monster that made him. Definitely the right call removing the scene, though it would be nice to do something with it somehow.
It doesn't hurt that I like Jude Law. I'm perfectly happy for him to act out that part over seeing such a flashback. But it's also that by itself it isn't a stylistic fit for the rest of the show, and because the protagonists are kids there's really no room to flash back to earlier times in a way that is meaningful to them. So the Jedi flashback would stand pretty much alone.
And maybe a drama about a First Order logistics officer who (maybe not so) slowly succumbs to alcoholism trying to set up all the things shown in the sequels.
Increasingly addicted to blue milk, logistics officer McKinley became increasingly belligerent, his final act being punching Kylo Ren for spilling his drink.
And maybe a drama about a First Order logistics officer who (maybe not so) slowly succumbs to alcoholism trying to set up all the things shown in the sequels.
Increasingly addicted to blue milk, logistics officer McKinley became increasingly belligerent, his final act being punching Kylo Ren for spilling his drink.
If they make a Lower Decks style series with this premise, I will get a third job to obtain D+
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I think they should bring JJ back to make his own version of Episode 8, and Rian back to make his version of Episodes 7 and 9, and leave it up to everyone to decide which is canon for themselves...
Seriously, though, I'd love to see more Rogue One-style one-offs fleshing out stuff in different places.
The probably-not-happening-anymore Rogue Squadron movie.
More High/Old Republic content.
A 'Tales of the Bounty Hunters' series, tweaked to fit the current continuity.
An Old Man Rex movie (Fistful of Dollars meets Die Hard)
'Pimp my Droid' - a reality series showcasing people bringing their droids to Babu Frik for a makeover. (ok, maybe not...)
I would also still like to see the next Solo movie, and Rian Johnson's standalone, 'not a Skywalker Saga' trilogy, but those seem unlikely to happen at this point.
Oh, and maybe a series following a former rebel turned freelancer/smuggler tooling about the galaxy and trying to avoid Imperial Entanglements in a rundown ship with his misfit crew... say, the Captain's former 2ic, a slightly crazy but skilled (and Rancor-obsessed) pilot, a bubbly but naive WA Droid mechanic, an unscrupulous Wookie hired gun, and some passengers.. say, a high-class Twi-lek escort, a Jedi-in-hiding, and a young doctor on the run with his sister, a brainwashed Imperial Hand trainee...
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Oh, and maybe a series following a former rebel turned freelancer/smuggler tooling about the galaxy and trying to avoid Imperial Entanglements in a rundown ship with his misfit crew... say, the Captain's former 2ic, a slightly crazy but skilled (and Rancor-obsessed) pilot, a bubbly but naive WA Droid mechanic, an unscrupulous Wookie hired gun, and some passengers.. say, a high-class Twi-lek escort, a Jedi-in-hiding, and a young doctor on the run with his sister, a brainwashed Imperial Hand trainee...
That sounds co... Hey, wait a minute!
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Oh, and maybe a series following a former rebel turned freelancer/smuggler tooling about the galaxy and trying to avoid Imperial Entanglements in a rundown ship with his misfit crew... say, the Captain's former 2ic, a slightly crazy but skilled (and Rancor-obsessed) pilot, a bubbly but naive WA Droid mechanic, an unscrupulous Wookie hired gun, and some passengers.. say, a high-class Twi-lek escort, a Jedi-in-hiding, and a young doctor on the run with his sister, a brainwashed Imperial Hand trainee...
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