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**Voss**

Blackie wrote:
Voss wrote:
Encanto

It was... fine? Love your family or everything is ruined forever is a bit heavy handed, but its a lesson, I guess.

There were a lot of Columbian culture notes to the film, but they were bizarrely and pretty much entirely irrelevant. I was basing gnoblars while watching it and had to keep looking up to remind myself that it wasn't just a bunch of Americans chatting, gossiping & having musical numbers in a local suburb.

So... watch it or not. But don't expect a lot. The best bit is when the film takes the time to dig into the heads of the protagonist's sisters. There was some depth and actual psychology in play there, but unfortunately it got cut short by the plot happening.

Spoiler:

I was highly amused that in the flashback, the actual first 'miracle' was Abuela Madrigal fireballing the gak out of the vague bandit/soldiers/whatever, and then trapping everyone in the valley by raising mountains in the pass. I mean, what the actual feth. Its easy to miss, but its an entirely different tone, even knowing at the beginning that her husband was murdered.

Also, I'm still not convinced that Mirabel doesn't have a Gift. She's clearly a timebender, as she stops time during her songs, and can simply watch the past as if she's there.

I hated it

Plot was boring, songs didn't catch my attention and after Hamilton (hands down the best show of 2020) I had a lot of expectations from Lin-Manuel Miranda. The movie's message was grim and IMHO completely wrong for a disney movie. But I agree about one thing, songs from the strong and the flower girls' point of view were the highlights of the movie.

Spoiler:

The Madrigal family reigns over the village with a system of favours and concessions, like mafia. Flower girl that has to marry a specific guy in order to make her family and the village "happy" was a perfect example of that. They keep the villagers "safe" but also completely dependant on their magic. Not only they can't leave the place but apparently they can't even survive without their magic as nothing works in that village without the help of the Madrigals.

I thought the ending could haven been refreshing but no, the family got their magic back and so the villagers will still depend on them with no chance of personal growth and emancipation.

That's fair.

Spoiler:

The weirdest thing about it is I've always understood 'Abuela' to be an affectionate version of 'Grandmother.' Not something you'd use on a matriarch, but the really doting kind of grandmother.
The film was indifferent enough about its cultural notes that I suspect a lot of the audience unfamiliar with the language (or related ones) thought it was her name.

**Blackie**

Yeah, movie wasn't really that bad. Just a bit more bland compared to previous disney movies, and the message I got I don't think it was intended.

**Sigur**

Turnip Jedi wrote:
Hot Fuzz is my favourite of the 3 despite Worlds End being the better movie, then again living in a place only a few notchs up from Sanford might have something to do with that and Welsh Bond can bring the baddy like few others

Aye, I think that plays a big role in enjoying that film. I appreciate the Hot Fuzz setting, I just found Shaun of the Dead to be more on point as a genre parody and World's End to be the most grown up of the three. (yes, the ending is too much). They're all fine, fine films though, that's without question.

**Turnip Jedi**

The Black Hole

By Pesci this was a muddled puddle of fup, clearly wanting to be high minded sci-fi but having its arm twisted to stick child friendly Star Wars robots in, didn't help that the humans clearly knew they'd signed to a stinker and didn't even try, along with a strange ending that was part of another cut, passable sfx for the time is about the only thumbs up. avoid

Rise of the Silver Surfer

Not as awful as I recall, I suspect Thor 2 helped in adjusting the bad supe movie scale and Hollywood Alba is rather distracting

**Blackie**

Don't Look Up.

I really enjoyed it and I thought it was a lot of fun but also pretty terrifying. I can see why a lot of people might hate it though, the director's style alone is pretty divisive and this movie is extremely political, it flat out mocks an entire category of people. There is a tiny attempt to mock also the other side but it's almost irrelevant compared to the director's intended target.

I like all previous works from Adam McKay, but this is my favorite so far.

Don't miss the post credit scene!

**LordofHats**

The Silent Sea

I start this with this caveat: the macguffin of this series is fething stupid. Like, really really stupid. I can't fathom why they picked the one they did. Everyone knows there's water on the moon, but the characters in this show treat it as some profound impossibility come true. And that's just the start of how stupid the macguffin is. It gets dumber.

That said.

If you can overlook how dumb the chosen macguffin is, this series is pretty good. Another entry in the Korean scifi import genre, this is a survival thriller with characters who generally don't behave like complete morons. That in itself is a plus. The drama is good. The suspense is good. It suffers from the tried and true idiocy of evil overlord sends in team but tells them jack gak about what they're doing and thus sabotaging their own efforts, but the whole water thing is so fething stupid that plotting error is kind of easy to overlook this time.

It's a decent time killer. 6/10.

**Easy E**

Christmas movies are dropping off platforms faster than teen extras in a Jason movie. However, I did get to squeeze in one last one.....

Klaus
A CGI animated movie about a postman, sent into exile on a remote island, where he meets a recluse toy-maker and a fishmonger teacher and they all learn to love again..... in short.

It was actually a pretty fun movie.

I also say the new Matrix, but I put all that stuff in the other thread for it.

**BobtheInquisitor**

This Is the End.

It was a fun comedy with a hard R rating for a reason. Probably a lot more fun if you are familiar with the comedic actors of the 2000’s. My wife thought it was too disturbing, so afterwards we watched:

The Fighting Temptations.

She thought this movie was much better. I thought it was formulaic and cynical, especially since they run your face in it by making the main character a cynical advertiser who at one point spells out exactly how he will market his film, er booze. If Cuba Gooding Jr were any less charismatic an actor, the audience would hate the bastard character for not getting any real comeuppance. Also, the Beyoncé plays a no-name, shunned small town music act who never got a break, so you need science fiction levels of suspension of disbelief. Tons of recognizable faces and good music.

What We Do In The Shadows

We had to stop watching at the big party scene because it was getting close to midnight. My wife thought the movie was boring, so we didn’t finish it. I was really enjoying it. It’s a type of comedy closer to Spinal Tap or Best In Show than Borat or Airplane, so you either enjoy it or you don’t.

**Henry**

Shang-chi (buckle up, gonna be a moderately long one)

Act 1 (40 minutes'ish). I'm really enjoying this. The action scenes are good quality. The plot chuggs along at a satisfying pace. We don't have to suffer the hero having a "how can I be the chosen one" moment. Even the side kick is satisfyingly rounded as a character. The comedy is a bit 50/50 and I think the film would have been better if it had taken more of a different directorial direction than traditional MCU, but we can't have everything. Very good so far.

Act 2 (about an hour long and my word we'd have all appreciated it being substantially less). What the hell just happened? Did the first script writer call it quits and they had to bring a new team in? The change in pace will give you whiplash. We go from an entertaining adventure where we are gradually being introduced to our heroes and the mythology through the action of the story and instead we get an info dump as over the next half an hour we get three boring monologues.
And to make up for it we get two action sequences. We get a half baked car chase scene that is thoroughly uninteresting and we finish the act with the director recreating (god alone knows why!) one the the worse scenes in Black Panther, by having two set of expendables in pyjamas having an uncoreographed brawl on a set that looks like the designer crawled out of bed late with a hangover and this is the best they could achieve at the last minute.
And what the hell is Ben Kingsley doing? Because it certainly isn't acting. I've seen this guy act, he's great. Whatever the hell this is, it is not acting.
And the guy who plays TazerFace... sorry, RazerFist... either needs acting lessons or I hope we don't see him again. Guy was an imposing figure and a terrible actor.

Act 3 (last 30 minutes). Big boss fight, heroes get closure, tid-bits to keep us interested in future films. A satisfying if unspectacular conclusion, which is still much better than many superhero movies can muster.

Without having read any reviews, I had heard people say this was not a good movie and (for the first act at least) I had to question what were they on about. Now I know. If the movie had kept up the pace and tone of the first act I'd have loved this movie, but the sudden change into the second act is terrible. I don't know how they managed to screw up something that bad which had started that good.

**Sigur**

I watched the sequel to Airplane!, called Airplane 2: The Sequel.

At first I didn't even notice.

The film's got large swathes of the same actors as well as the same story, but in space. They do make fun of that fact of course. It was alright. Later on William Shatner shows up and gets a ton of very funny lines.

It's a rather Take It Or Leave It sort of film, but alright.

Now on to the second season of Occupied (Norwegian tv show, co-production between Norway, Sweden, France and so on): Not as good as the first one. It's good, you still got the political intrigue, people trying to do their jobs to best of their ability, but tons of disruptive factors keep on making life hard for everybody. The dynamic between the Norwegian government, the Russian embassador (always a delight) and several people through whose eyes we see the results of those decisions still works nicely.

Spoiler:

The thing is that first, there's a 'bad guy' over several episodes now. Well, there are several, but the one that stands out like a sore thumb is Minnikov. He's an ominous figure right from the start, and towards the end of his stint he turns very, very, very 'evil' indeed (chewing scenery, being creepy around the little girl and so on). That's a bit too much, and the show doesn't need that sort of character. So far, one of the strengths of the show was the moral ambiguity every character had to deal with due to the circumstances.

Seond, I did NOT care for the "Djupvik's and Hilde's daughter gets kidnapped". Just as with Minnikov, nobody needs that sort of stuff in Occupied. That whole personal, family-in-danger-get-revenge crap. That's the low bar. As soon as personal stuff or family gets involved, we know that the writers couldn't think of any proper reasons for people to do something. What I liked about this is that Djupvik had to go to the Russians for help. That was very much a Sopranos moment.

I do like the social media/peaceful protest/activism thing. Sure, it's not done masterfully, and they had to take care not to use actual social media or youtube or stuff like that, which always hurts those sort of stories on film. Oooh, hey, that's something the EU could write into the Digital Services Act: Gatekeepers' websites and so on can be used in works of fiction as seen fit. If they wanna be monopolists and build their proprietary markets and are part of so many people's every day life they should be depicted rather than artists having to ask permission to depict what billions see every single day. Anyway, I digress. I like that little story. And it shows the free-App designer to be a total muppet, which fits my tiny little world view.

But either way, I like it. And it's good fun to watch if you're willing to cut the show and its little budget some slack. For one, I really enjoy the decision of not showing court scenes. Things get to court, cut, we get the press interviewing people about the results of the court meeting.

Jesper Berg is still entertaining, but he's become a bit of a joke now. From the central power figure with a vision for a better future to resistance leader from his exile to Carmen Sandiego and kind of a dick. Showing up in Paris at his ex-wife's apartment, staying forever, tricking her new boyfriend into working for him and making things uncomfortable on the whole.

But oh well. He's in a bit of a crap situation, and he does what ever he can to survive, I guess.

But still, good fun. Not as good as the first season (not the least due to the secret service boss being gone, who was a cool character).

**Pacific**

Flinty wrote:Fury is awesome right up to the final set piece. Then it gets sufficiently stupid to drop me out of the suspension.

As has been pointed out, there are similarities to real events that took place.

I think the most common criticism I have read from historians on that final scene is how the event is portrayed, how the soldiers behave, rather than a single tank being able to hold off a vastly numerically superior force which is documented. But you are being asked to believe that elite units of SS, that have survived the war up until this point (including no doubt fighting on the meatgrinder of the Eastern front) would carry out a Zerg rush on a tank and just get mown down in droves. It comes off as Hollywood even to the layman, so rivet counters must have been doing mid-air 360s about it.

It's a shame because I don't think the film needed it, and I don't think it tonally matched the rest of the film (of the Tank commander who had taken his crew through hell and high water and managed to keep them alive). In the same way really that Tom Hanks saluting the Stars and Stripes at the end of Saving Private Ryan felt tonally false (as a non-American) at the end of that film. Hold on a second, you've taken over two hours showing us the horrors of war, including that scene on the beaches, you're now switching it around to say it was all worth it?

LordofHats wrote:There's something to be said that war is no more immune to the sunk cost fallacy than any other venture.

There are numerous examples of forces committing to a questionable objective far past the point it made any sense to pursue it. In a very short engagement like we see in the movie (it's a couple minutes) it's very easy to think an objective is easily surmountable only for that to become untrue and for anyone in charge to be very slow to realize they're losing more than there is to gain.

Really, the most questionable part of the movie IMO is the encounter with the Tiger. Dramatically its fan-fething-tastic! Logically, it's not clear why the Tiger left a hulled-down position to confront the Shermans except that it was more cinematic. Especially in the late war, this was basically what tank crews were being trained to do because they could barely operate their vehicles. Tanks were increasingly used as armored movable bunkers.

Yes I agree. From what I have read, most of the success of the Tiger came from the excellent sighting/ranging optics in the tank, the power and killing distance of its 88 gun, and the experience of the Tiger commanders. The tank would have been positioned perfectly, hidden, in a position some distance away and knocked out the Shermans without placing itself in danger. That was how some of the Tiger commanders were able to tally such high numbers, the moment they got into a close-range brawl their advantage would be reduced.

An exception to this was Michael Wittman, who made use of a well timed ambush (British armoured division that was not deployed for action) and drove in amongst them, destroying them at close range, while the British tank crews were hurriedly trying to get back in their vehicles or diving for cover.

**BobtheInquisitor**

Airplane!2: The Sequel is worth it just for the Macho Grande scene. The Shatner scenes are also gold. I don’t really remember much else, except Sunny Bono playing a terrorist.

**LordofHats**

Pacific wrote:
But you are being asked to believe that elite units of SS, that have survived the war up until this point (including no doubt fighting on the meatgrinder of the Eastern front) would carry out a Zerg rush on a tank and just get mown down in droves. It comes off as Hollywood even to the layman, so rivet counters must have been doing mid-air 360s about it.

To be fair, by the end of the war 'elite' and 'SS' really only went together in propaganda. The SS had been bleed out along with the rest of the German military machine. Recruits were often given barely the minimum of training (if that) and were about as well equipped as the rest their regular army fellows (not well). While the movie plays up the SS as fanatics who are really deadly soldiers, and this was an attitude among the allies at the time, the reality is that zerg rushing is something the SS totally did because 'charge in the direction I'm pointing' is one of the few tactics you can employ with men who have no idea what they're doing and commanders who are more energy than ability.

Given that Fury takes place very late in the war, every scenario it presents (while highly dramatized) is at least loosely plausible or very similar to something that actually happened somewhere. The big stand out is the fight with the Tiger but I guess they weren't going to get a real Tiger for the movie and then not make it as cool to watch as possible.

In the same way really that Tom Hanks saluting the Stars and Stripes at the end of Saving Private Ryan felt tonally false (as a non-American) at the end of that film. Hold on a second, you've taken over two hours showing us the horrors of war, including that scene on the beaches, you're now switching it around to say it was all worth it?

Well sir that sounds like something someone who doesn't love 'Murica would say!

More seriously, I know the feeling. Watching Saving Private Ryan and Band of Brothers for that matter is a somewhat different experience now than it was when they were new. Band of Brothers less so because it toned down on glorifying the events and focused more on the men, but especially in the post War on Terror world a lot of 'Murica feth yeah' things stand out like sore thumbs for me in ways they didn't before. Cynicism about war and the nation are higher than they were when these things were made and some of their moments that seemed meant to indulge in a universal sense of national pride and achievement can now appear like unearned indulgence or wistfully remembering the right things in the wrong ways. I had the same problem with the recent Midway remake, which felt far too self-indulgent in what events it was portraying with little real consideration for what those events represented. Such films present the horrors of war like hypocritical moments meant to remind the audience 'war is bad' before 'but check out how fething awesome this dude with this gun is!'

In a way, films like Flags of Our Fathers, Letters from Iwo Jima, and The Thin Red Line feel more authentic despite being less popular with audiences in comparison at the times of their release.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

On the flag salute? I’ve always interpreted that more as a reminder of why those men fought and died in horrific conditions.

Not the flag as such, but the people it represents.

At least it’s not U-571 at least. Flag shagging at its finest.

**Flinty**

Band of Brothers is excellent, because the early episodes are very much high action superheroes into the fight, and the later episodes are all about the looting, officers looking in the other direction, incompetence and major combat fatigue.

The series decidedly does not glorify the horror of war. I mean even the first episode showing combat, also has a bit of prisoner murder going on.

Regarding the final Fury scene, from memory the tank was on its own, reasonably in the open with plenty of opportunities for a light infantry unit just to bypass it. Even a light mortar with smoke rounds could have enabled an easier approach, and the engagement takes so long it goes from day to night.

Single small units were definitely responsible on all sides for holding up much larger forces, but to me that last engagement doesn't seem to capture enough reasonable conditions fro the SS guys to keep charging straight at the. immobilized tank.

However, thankfully I am totally an armchair general, and long may that continue!

**Azreal13**

Ghostbusters: Afterlife.

The wisdom of returning to a long dormant and beloved franchise will almost always be greeted with an amount of trepidation and cynicism by its fans. By doing so, filmmakers invite a degree of pressure that would be absent from a new creation with a much higher bar to clear.

Thankfully, Afterlife makes a decent college try of doing so. Most of the key elements can be gleaned from the trailer, but briefly, the late Egon's estranged daughter and two children relocate to a remote farmhouse, the only real asset left to them in his will. It soon becomes clear that Egon was working on something that may have implications for the safety of the world, and it falls to his grandchildren (but mainly Phobe, his mini me granddaughter) to pick up the torch.

There's no question the film leans heavily into its legacy to evoke nostalgia, but by and large it does so repsectfully and doesn't ever feel too cynical. The Ecto-1 gets its Millennium Falcon moment, and the first time that unmistakable "waaa-waaa" siren sounds it feels earned (a bit like the moment Craig gets the classic theme in his Bond movies for the first time.)

Given we don't live in alternate universe, it's difficult to say how well the film would stand up without the weight of history behind it, I suspect not all that well. There's other issues too, the first act drags its feet a little which then seems to squeeze the second and third acts for time making them in turn feel a little rushed. If there's ever a director's cut released I suspect we'll see more added there. A certain popular actor feels criminally underused and totally superfluous, which again lends itself to the idea that there's more to see than is present here.

It's difficult to talk about the movie without discussing certain things, I will spoiler those things here, click the tab at your own risk.

Spoiler:

Overall then, a bit of a mixed bag, but there's enough here to be entertained while your nostalgia (assuming you have any) is tickled, and the legacy of the old movies remains intact.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Has anyone actually seen GI Joe Origins Snake Eyes?

Only it’s on Amazon Prime to rent for a mere £1.99, and I’m thinking of rotting a few brain cells whilst I wait for my stew to slow cook (Oxtail, with veggies in a beef and Guinness gravy, in case you’re wondering)

**Kid_Kyoto**

Turnip Jedi wrote:
The Black Hole

By Pesci this was a muddled puddle of fup, clearly wanting to be high minded sci-fi but having its arm twisted to stick child friendly Star Wars robots in, didn't help that the humans clearly knew they'd signed to a stinker and didn't even try, along with a strange ending that was part of another cut, passable sfx for the time is about the only thumbs up. avoid

The ship design was cool. Between the whole 'Glass Cathedral in Space' and 'Undead Cyborg Crew' I wonder if it wasn't a strong influence on BFG and 40k.

Shazam!

Ain't it always the way? You wait forever for a Captain Marvel movie and two of them come at once!

So I saw the Carol Danvers Capt Marvel film in theaters but missed the Billy Batson one till a flight this week and y'know, it was mostly good. The kid who plays Billy is properly charismatic, and the guy who plays Captain Marvel (whose name may never be spoken!) is just having a great time. I like how it embraces the 1930s trope of Billy being an orphan and updates for the modern era. His foster family/group home is the best part of the film. It has some dark turns which makes it less suitable for my kids, but the ending should make anyone smile.

Spoiler:

Definitely felt like it should have gotten more attention than it did.

**Henry**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Shazam!.

I thought this was a delightful film. They had a clear objective and went with it. Plus it's got Djimon Honsou in it, and that's enough for me. There's a sequel in the works for next year.

**LordofHats**

I still hold up Shazam as the only truly good DC film. The rest are at best, passable or memorable only for being bad. Shazam was the only one with real chops.

**Turnip Jedi**

@ Kid Kyoto, can't argue there and one of the first Imperial robots from RT or 2nd Ed was somewhat inspired by Maximillan

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

GI Joe Origins: Snake Eyes

Yep. It’s the film that everyone forgets exists. And….I can see why.

For a toy line tie in kid/tween action film, it takes ages to stop fannying around and get on with the actual plot and the requisite fisticuffs. Which lets face it is what we’re all really here for.

Some of the action scenes are quite fun, and whilst I need to remember I’ve seen such shenanigans before, it’s target audience may not have.

But ropey as they were? It’s just not a patch on the two original live action ones. And that’s honestly not something I ever thought I’d type.

And somehow? The three giant snakes, done in CGI, look far worse than the Harry Potter Basilisk. I’m not entirely sure I understand how that works.

But, as I said. This film isn’t meant to be high art. It’s for kids/tweens who probably shouldn’t be watching actual martial arts films quite yet. There’s some hefty exposition “Joes? Wot are Joes” and “Cobra, wot are Cobra”. Given I’ve just sort of always known, or at least can’t remember not knowing the answers to those questions, I can’t say whether it was entirely necessary.

The action scenes are competent enough I suppose. Usual samurai ninja chop-sockey. And of course people do get injured, but no blood.

Ooooh! A proper proper swear! The f word no less. Quietly said but it’s in there. And without revealing full context, it is indeed suitably contextual.

Now, I rented this for £2.99 (£1 more than I thought) and I can’t say I really regret it. It definitely starts to redeem itself in the third act. But my word it took its sweet time getting to it.

If you’ve sprogs from say, 9-13, they’d probably love it. And if you’re a supervising parent, there is probably enough here to stop your eyes rolling into the back of your head.

Verdict? Rent it, do not buy it.

**balmong7**

Kung Fu Panda.

I'm not sure how I waited this long to watch the movie. But I really enjoyed it. Hard for me to believe the sequels can live up to this one though, the entire story was very personal to the characters and I'm not sure how you can keep that moving forward in a franchise.

But yeah, solid story about loving yourself, confronting past mistakes, and self-fulfilling prophecies.

**LordofHats**

The sequels aren't as good but they're not bad either. 3 is easily the worst and mostly because the ideas had kind of run out by that one.

**Easy E**

After watching Matrix 4, I went back and watched all three of the other Matrix films.

I know Reloaded and Revolutions get a lot of flak, but I think as a trilogy they hold together fine. The music, action, and psuedo-philosophy are all fine by me. Sure, there are a couple scenes and production choices that are "meh", but overall all three together deliver.

I put it up there with most of the big geek trilogy/film series and would feel like it can hold its own up against any of them.

**Voss**

The Suicide Squad

Had a chance to watch, so decided to. It was... alright, I guess?
I don't totally feel like I wasted my evening, but I do a little.

The characters needed more depth (rather than the paint by numbers backstories), and the shock value of the blood and violence of whatever didn't last very long (and just sort of wandered off, as by the end of the film the expendable hordes are just getting knocked down).

The weirdest bit is probably the random office lady who swung the golf club. She wasn't even one of the main minions, why was she the one to object?

Part of the problem is I don't think the premise is repeatable. Someone being willing to kill off theoretical supers (even non-'meta' ones) is shocking the first time. But so many super hero movies do kill off characters now that it isn't shocking anymore, and that's really the only thing going for the film.

**Blackie**

Neon Genesis Evangelion - Death & Rebirth

The last two episodes of Neon Genesis Evangelion reached the IMDB top 250 in the form of the feature movie The End of Evangelion, and I wanted to give it a shot, without knowing anything about that anime.

I thought that watching the "re-cap" (Death & Rebirth) was enough, but I was wrong. It's really impossible to understand anything by watching it if you haven't already seen the regular episodes. If you're interested in that anime just watch the regular episodes and then The End of Evangelion. Which is what I'm going to do now.

Death & Rebirth is completely useless and a waste of time. Vote 2/10. Not 1/10 just because the anime looks extremely interesting and got my attention even if I could understand very little out of that mess.

**Kid_Kyoto**

Voss wrote:
The Suicide Squad

Started watching it on a flight and quickly realized that it was not something I should be watching with Kyoto Secunda sitting next to me.

Willing to try it sometime if I'm on my own but definitely not a family film.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

I quite enjoyed it. It’s definitely better than the first, but let’s be honest that’s hardly an endorsement in and of itself.

The important thing for me is that it remembered to be fun. No sad edge lord Joker. Just a bunch of maladjusted reprobates having a bit of a laugh at all the danger around them.

**Voss**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I quite enjoyed it. It’s definitely better than the first, but let’s be honest that’s hardly an endorsement in and of itself.

The important thing for me is that it remembered to be fun. No sad edge lord Joker. Just a bunch of maladjusted reprobates having a bit of a laugh at all the danger around them.

I'm not actually sure it was better than the first. Certainly disagree with the 'having a bit of a laugh' part (except Harlie, because that's her only character trait), because there was a lot of horror underlying everything, and mostly the characters _weren't_ having fun. (or for the real cast, the sense they were ever in danger). It honestly felt too 'try hard,' where being edgy and 'inappropriate' was the only thing.