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 Arbitrator wrote:
Guess the blip marker rumours were true?

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We already knew the “blip markers” were a real thing; that was reported directly from conversations with the devs at the open day.
What we don’t know is any details at all – there was a ‘rumour’ that had details but that was debunked and determined to have been made up by someone on Facebook or something.

zamerion wrote:
It looks like there will be more news the second week. They are not going to leave a week just for the vehicle, right?

There's at least one or two character units not in this first wave. A two wave release is exactly what I expected it to be based on the variety of kits they've shown off for the game. So two weeks to cover it and then I'll wager we'll see them shift over to AoS for something - possibly the new Skaven VS Flesh Eaters box (as that's the most solid AoS release hint we've got so far).

zamerion wrote:
It looks like there will be more news the second week. They are not going to leave a week just for the vehicle, right?

I'm fairly certain they'll also release the Aberrants and Abominant as their own kits, and we still need to see the Good Doctor as well.

So next week for the abominant, aberrants, Ridgerunner, and Biophagus then?
Did we miss anything?

Reserving judgement on the blips, but I don't feel like I'm a fan of the idea.

Here's hoping they surprise me.

 Overread wrote:

zamerion wrote:
It looks like there will be more news the second week. They are not going to leave a week just for the vehicle, right?

There's at least one or two character units not in this first wave. A two wave release is exactly what I expected it to be based on the variety of kits they've shown off for the game. So two weeks to cover it and then I'll wager we'll see them shift over to AoS for something - possibly the new Skaven VS Flesh Eaters box (as that's the most solid AoS release hint we've got so far).

At this rate everything shown at the open day will be released by the end of February

Lots of good stuff there. I guess the 2nd week will be the Ridgerunner buggy, Biophagus and Aberrants?

With all these new characters GSC are going to need there own Kill Team expansion

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Lots of good stuff there. I guess the 2nd week will be the Ridgerunner buggy, Biophagus and Aberrants?

With all these new characters GSC are going to need there own Kill Team expansion

I'm still hoping for Deathwatch: Overkill rules.

 Cephalobeard wrote:
Reserving judgement on the blips, but I don't feel like I'm a fan of the idea.

Here's hoping they surprise me.

Will be very thematic if they do!

The second week could also have the Abominant and Aberrants, things that previously were only available in Tooth and Claw, which is now no longer on the GW site.

Then there's just a week or two left before Vigilus 2: Black Legion Boogaloo, AoS might have to wait until March-ish.

 EnTyme wrote:

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Lots of good stuff there. I guess the 2nd week will be the Ridgerunner buggy, Biophagus and Aberrants?

With all these new characters GSC are going to need there own Kill Team expansion

I'm still hoping for Deathwatch: Overkill rules.

That feels like something that would be pretty obvious for the new White Dwarf structure.

Finally GSC! I'm still holding out hope that next week they'll show is another new unit, but im still happy so far

Genestealer Cult may be the first army with a codex to have more characters than non-character units.

 Kirasu wrote:
Genestealer Cult may be the first army with a codex to have more characters than non-character units.

Hmm, that may have been Harlequins *goes off to count*

Edit: count done. 3 characters to 4 units (although only three kits). So yup, GSC likely to be the first.

It fits GSC though. With the interscept rules. A tide of fanatical bodies and some key pieces.

I am interested in this army, have been since Overwatch Killteam came out three years ago. I have a couple of questions though.

A lot of people have been telling me that the only viable way to run this army is to use masses of Genestealers and support units, that Neophytes, Goliaths and Acolytes are not viable even in friendly games.

Is this true?

Its true in a competitive environment as of the Index version of the army. Although Neophytes see use because they are a cheap bubblewrap unit. Luckily, the new codex comes up for pre-order next week, and the hope is that more units and army builds will be viable.

 Cephalobeard wrote:
Reserving judgement on the blips, but I don't feel like I'm a fan of the idea.

Here's hoping they surprise me.

I had that feeling too but to be honest the more I think about it, the more its growing on me. Thematically, it's one of the coolest things ever. I was just worried about the capacity of such a system to be played competitively. But honestly, I think that there is likely to be a way to do it. Knowing some play testers, I trust them enough to tell GW if the deployment system was just unworkable.


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 Togusa wrote:
I am interested in this army, have been since Overwatch Killteam came out three years ago. I have a couple of questions though.

A lot of people have been telling me that the only viable way to run this army is to use masses of Genestealers and support units, that Neophytes, Goliaths and Acolytes are not viable even in friendly games.

Is this true?

No that is definitely not true. (although it might be for the goliath). Almost everything is viable in a friendly environment. But I've seen acolytes and neophytes get used at some exceedingly competitive events (and do well). So don't let the haters naysay those guys.

 luke1705 wrote:

 Cephalobeard wrote:
Reserving judgement on the blips, but I don't feel like I'm a fan of the idea.

Here's hoping they surprise me.

I had that feeling too but to be honest the more I think about it, the more its growing on me. Thematically, it's one of the coolest things ever. I was just worried about the capacity of such a system to be played competitively. But honestly, I think that there is likely to be a way to do it. Knowing some play testers, I trust them enough to tell GW if the deployment system was just unworkable.


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 Togusa wrote:
I am interested in this army, have been since Overwatch Killteam came out three years ago. I have a couple of questions though.

A lot of people have been telling me that the only viable way to run this army is to use masses of Genestealers and support units, that Neophytes, Goliaths and Acolytes are not viable even in friendly games.

Is this true?

No that is definitely not true. (although it might be for the goliath). Almost everything is viable in a friendly environment. But I've seen acolytes and neophytes get used at some exceedingly competitive events (and do well). So don't let the haters naysay those guys.

Thanks! I like their cars, troops and such. So I'm hoping to see good rules in the Codex next week!

My personal speculation is that you will have to mark where your "ambush points" are with the markers during deployment and the roll allows you to deploy further away/closer to enemy units plus the bouneses of shoot and or move on higher rolls. The only big thing is will it be 1d6 or a 2d6 table and will there be (if it's 1d6) 7+results?

Could be anything. Could be a roll based on the turn count like the deathsrtike to see if they show up. Which would suck. Could be spawn nodes like the hive fleet stealers have. I am not bothering speculating because we have no ideas yet beyond, there are 28 counters included with the book, which is a lot.

Does GW roll a dice to decide what face to put the symbol on? They were doing better about putting the symbol on the 6, but the GSC dice it is on the 1 again.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Does GW roll a dice to decide what face to put the symbol on? They were doing better about putting the symbol on the 6, but the GSC dice it is on the 1 again.

They explained why they did this literally 7,000 times on their FB page.

Well not everybody reads fb

 radarbabyeater wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Does GW roll a dice to decide what face to put the symbol on? They were doing better about putting the symbol on the 6, but the GSC dice it is on the 1 again.

They explained why they did this literally 7,000 times on their FB page.

Care to explain please? How would I know this if I don't use Facebook much? Also keep day to day and heaven forbid hour to hour so not to miss anything? Wow, that is almost like stalking.

Davor wrote:

 radarbabyeater wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Does GW roll a dice to decide what face to put the symbol on? They were doing better about putting the symbol on the 6, but the GSC dice it is on the 1 again.

They explained why they did this literally 7,000 times on their FB page.

Care to explain please? How would I know this if I don't use Facebook much? Also keep day to day and heaven forbid hour to hour so not to miss anything? Wow, that is almost like stalking.

I’m sure it was mentioned in this thread a couple of pages back.

New dice have the faction icon on the six. GSC dice are just a reissue of last editions dice which was before the faction icon always on 6 change, which is why it’s on the 1.

It’s a shame they didn’t update the dice to match the new format but I can see why they didn’t given that these dice mouldes / designs are only a couple years old.

Aeneades wrote:

Davor wrote:

 radarbabyeater wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Does GW roll a dice to decide what face to put the symbol on? They were doing better about putting the symbol on the 6, but the GSC dice it is on the 1 again.

They explained why they did this literally 7,000 times on their FB page.

Care to explain please? How would I know this if I don't use Facebook much? Also keep day to day and heaven forbid hour to hour so not to miss anything? Wow, that is almost like stalking.

I’m sure it was mentioned in this thread a couple of pages back.

New dice have the faction icon on the six. GSC dice are just a reissue of last editions dice which was before the faction icon always on 6 change, which is why it’s on the 1.

It’s a shame they didn’t update the dice to match the new format but I can see why they didn’t given that these dice mouldes / designs are only a couple years old.

They aren’t a reissue, they’re new dice, but they wanted them to match the old ones so people could use them together without confusion.

They've been putting a symbol on the 1 and the 6 on the same dice lately, which is the height of absolute lunacy.

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