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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/28 17:49:41
Subject: Re:[DUNE] novels, movies, television shows - discuss it here!
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Ship's Officer
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Empire magazine covers (including sandworm maw). I guess more marketing is due out later next week.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/28 18:18:39
Subject: [DUNE] novels, movies, television shows - discuss it here!
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Well...the...
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...the stillsuits look great.
...despite the exposed faces...
Why is that clothing catalogue guy behind Paul? Automatically Appended Next Post: (Still really excited about this film.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/28 18:24:54
Subject: [DUNE] novels, movies, television shows - discuss it here!
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Ship's Officer
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That is just his caladan attire, that planet looks cold (filmed in norway) in this film. The stillsuits do have half masks that cover the face. But I guess they wanted all the actors clearly identifiable here. Love the thopters and transport ships in the background though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 0021/08/28 18:30:37
Subject: [DUNE] novels, movies, television shows - discuss it here!
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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I just wish it looked less modern considering the story takes place tens of thousands of years in the future.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/28 19:24:40
Subject: [DUNE] novels, movies, television shows - discuss it here!
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BobtheInquisitor wrote:I just wish it looked less modern considering the story takes place tens of thousands of years in the future.
That's a bit of a LOLWUT, though I guess I know what you're driving at!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/28 20:11:59
Subject: [DUNE] novels, movies, television shows - discuss it here!
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Alpharius wrote: BobtheInquisitor wrote:I just wish it looked less modern considering the story takes place tens of thousands of years in the future.
That's a bit of a LOLWUT, though I guess I know what you're driving at! 
The fashion. The one guy not in a stillsuit looks like he’s wearing an outfit straight from a modern crime drama.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/28 20:22:15
Subject: [DUNE] novels, movies, television shows - discuss it here!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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It's better than the rather totally off the wall crazy outfits and hats that the sci-fi version had
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/28 20:24:31
Subject: [DUNE] novels, movies, television shows - discuss it here!
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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Sometimes you tie the look to certain modern day things to establish a visual cue.
Finally got a decent look at a crysknife. Looks like what it's supposed to be, and beefier than those steak knives from the Lynch film.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/30 19:42:45
Subject: Re:[DUNE] novels, movies, television shows - discuss it here!
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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I kinda liked the 19th Century uniforms House Atreides used in the Lynch version. They wouldn't match the tone of the 2020 movie though.
From the shots we have seen of Isaac's Duke Leto so far, I have to say that I also liked Jurgen Prochnow better. He looked more noble and benevolent without losing the aura of regal authority. Isaacs comes across as a distant and condescending in comparison.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/30 19:52:12
Subject: [DUNE] novels, movies, television shows - discuss it here!
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Terrifying Doombull
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BobtheInquisitor wrote: Alpharius wrote: BobtheInquisitor wrote:I just wish it looked less modern considering the story takes place tens of thousands of years in the future.
That's a bit of a LOLWUT, though I guess I know what you're driving at! 
The fashion. The one guy not in a stillsuit looks like he’s wearing an outfit straight from a modern crime drama.
The overcoat... kinda does? The inner layer isn't really. Its closer to generic cyberpunk/near future clothing. Modern menswear doesn't tend to be one piece that goes below the waist without interruption, even (especially) with a built-in belt.
I can't quite get over Paul's head and hair, personally. He looks like Merry in LotR, wandering around Gondor, completely overshadowed like a cute kid surrounded by grizzled vets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/30 19:56:58
Subject: [DUNE] novels, movies, television shows - discuss it here!
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Ship's Officer
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We are getting a full trailer on september 9th (different than the exclusive teaser being shown at Tenet screenings this week). Not much longer to wait. I wouldn't recommend watching the bootleg footage of the current teaser. Only ones i've seen are such low quality, it's just not even worth it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/30 20:16:04
Subject: [DUNE] novels, movies, television shows - discuss it here!
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Voss, I didn’t realize he was wearing a onesie. I saw the coat, collar and belt, along with the Men’s Warehouse color and fabric.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/30 21:32:48
Subject: Re:[DUNE] novels, movies, television shows - discuss it here!
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Ship's Officer
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In case anyone is curious about the new harkonnen symbol. Plus first signs of some merch, they're gonna make all sorts of goodies for this movie.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/31 06:51:04
Subject: [DUNE] novels, movies, television shows - discuss it here!
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Fireknife Shas'el
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I really like that Atredies hawk; it definitively looks like a stylised hawk without looking like generic 19th century heraldic hawk (looking at you GW!  ) That’s quite a difficult thing to do.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/31 07:36:20
Subject: [DUNE] novels, movies, television shows - discuss it here!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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BobtheInquisitor wrote:Well...the...
uh...
...the stillsuits look great.
...despite the exposed faces...
Why is that clothing catalogue guy behind Paul?
Automatically Appended Next Post:
(Still really excited about this film.)
I'm probably the only one who isn't a fan of them. They don't look foreign enough. Just googling "Stillsuit Concept Art" gives more creative versions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/31 17:09:16
Subject: Re:[DUNE] novels, movies, television shows - discuss it here!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/31 17:20:20
Subject: [DUNE] novels, movies, television shows - discuss it here!
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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Sweet. Glad to see we'll get him really be a Swordmaster.
I'd hayt to see him die, though. Hope he lives a good long life.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/31 18:56:48
Subject: [DUNE] novels, movies, television shows - discuss it here!
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So I just finished Chapterhouse: Dune and had no idea that there was a new Dune movie even announced, let alone with publicity stills and a trailer ready to drop. I am properly stoked. What perfect timing.
Curious about people's experiences with the books. I read the first three years ago - the first two in high school, and the third in college. I remember really disliking Children of Dune. Then this summer I decided on a whim to pick up God-Emperor of Dune and devoured the last three. I thought all three were very well-developed political thought experiments and enjoyed seeing the multi-generational scope of history. Struggling with the infinite human experience and the paltriness of the Bene Gesserit grail in comparison - both across space and time, recognizing that all memory and histories are flawed. As the book jacket review says, "rich fair, heady stuff." So I'm thinking that the things I didn't like about Dune Messiah and [/i]Children of Dune[/i] were just things that went over my head at the time, that I couldn't appreciate because I wasn't a mature enough reader.
I've had friends say that the common experience is to keep reading the Dune novels until you don't like them anymore. But I thought the last three ramped up in quality until the end. So maybe the third book is the stumbling block I remember it being. Is it worth a revisit?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/31 19:15:59
Subject: Re:[DUNE] novels, movies, television shows - discuss it here!
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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The Sardaukar uniforms definitely beat the saggy Hazmat suits that looked as if you could barely see out of them from the Lynch version.
I just finished Children of Dune and found both it and Messiah to be underwhelming. At times, it feels as if the characters' long, loooong internal monologues randomly switch between being the actual plot and pure thought.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/31 19:47:59
Subject: [DUNE] novels, movies, television shows - discuss it here!
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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I was enjoying Children of Dune, but I put it down to read something else. I plan to return to it when I next have the Dune itch, and finish the entire Dune series in the fullness of time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/31 20:37:22
Subject: [DUNE] novels, movies, television shows - discuss it here!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Edit: It was a pointless comment and there's no delete option.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/31 20:39:59
Subject: [DUNE] novels, movies, television shows - discuss it here!
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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Deconstruction of the hero is never as popular as the hero's journey. I understand other criticisms of Messiah and Children, but I think they provide the actual point that Herbert was trying to make. Dune in isolation misses it completely.
I think Dune is the best realized novel, but the first three are a far richer story together.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/31 21:02:28
Subject: [DUNE] novels, movies, television shows - discuss it here!
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I never understood Children of Dune and Dune Messiah until I saw the Children of Dune miniseries (which, incidentally, is currently on Amazon Prime)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/31 21:03:11
Subject: [DUNE] novels, movies, television shows - discuss it here!
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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gorgon wrote:Deconstruction of the hero is never as popular as the hero's journey. I understand other criticisms of Messiah and Children, but I think they provide the actual point that Herbert was trying to make. Dune in isolation misses it completely.
I think Dune is the best realized novel, but the first three are a far richer story together.
I wouldn't say Messiah and Children are bad stories. On a philosophical level, they are deeper than the rather formulaic Dune (which is ultimately the same old tale about the evil overlord taking over the peaceful land until the young hero makes his triumphant return).
They were however very dull reads. Also I was surprised by how awfully small the locale in which the story takes place was - Messiah happens almost entirely inside Paul's palace and the local market square. You'd think with a galactic wide Jihad going on, we'd see a bit more of the universe.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/31 21:24:45
Subject: [DUNE] novels, movies, television shows - discuss it here!
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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Yeah, Messiah is a short, very contained kind of story.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/01 03:04:12
Subject: Re:[DUNE] novels, movies, television shows - discuss it here!
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Esmer wrote:The Sardaukar uniforms definitely beat the saggy Hazmat suits that looked as if you could barely see out of them from the Lynch version.
I was about to say this. The Sardaukar from Lynch's movie just looked so...goofy. Like, how could you even fight in a bulky stupid-looking suit like that? Definitely digging the new look for them. To be fair, the ones attacking Duncan should be wearing House Harkonnen uniforms as that was part of the plot in the book, so I hope that's what we're seeing in that pic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/01 12:57:58
Subject: Re:[DUNE] novels, movies, television shows - discuss it here!
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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ZergSmasher wrote: Esmer wrote:The Sardaukar uniforms definitely beat the saggy Hazmat suits that looked as if you could barely see out of them from the Lynch version.
I was about to say this. The Sardaukar from Lynch's movie just looked so...goofy. Like, how could you even fight in a bulky stupid-looking suit like that? Definitely digging the new look for them. To be fair, the ones attacking Duncan should be wearing House Harkonnen uniforms as that was part of the plot in the book, so I hope that's what we're seeing in that pic.
The guy on the left without a helmet - Duncan probably took his helmet off to confirm they're Sardaukar.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/01 19:14:57
Subject: Re:[DUNE] novels, movies, television shows - discuss it here!
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Ship's Officer
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Couple more images,
Hopefully tomorrow they show more of the baron or rabban, or even piter.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 0008/09/23 16:32:37
Subject: Re:[DUNE] novels, movies, television shows - discuss it here!
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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Apparently in this version, Stilgar is Slavic.
I like the Tuareg look of the Fremen. Something tells there will be a lot of new Tallarn army projects in the wake of this movie.
Also I wonder if we're going to get a glimpse of Feyd Rautha - maybe in a post-credit stinger (see what I did there). I seriously hope they didn't merge his character with Rabban.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/01 22:00:33
Subject: [DUNE] novels, movies, television shows - discuss it here!
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Ship's Officer
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I don't think Feyd got merged with Rabban, but I do think he won't have any presence in the movie. Based on the script leaks Feyd and the emperor are only namedropped, and will be introduced in the second movie.
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