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 Geifer wrote:

 Haighus wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

 Galas wrote:
I think the master of possesion will work buffing units and not summoning demons.

Likely both since he's still a Chaos Marine character and should thus have access to the generic faction summoning rule. But I agree, he's probably going to get a buff arau working off of the Daemon keyword.

I'm hoping it is a buff that will be useful for both melee daemons, like Possessed, and ranged daemons, like the Obliterators and Defilers. If it only benefits one of the other I think it will be a pity.

True. And wouldn't that be fun? But knowing GW's general attitude towards Chaos I'll assume it will be melee exclusive.

Yeah... probably something useless like " if the Master of Possession has killed a model in the Fight phase, then all DAEMON models within 6" re-roll 1's to hit in the fight phase. Isn't it awesome!" or something similarly gak

 Geifer wrote:

 Galas wrote:
I think the master of possesion will work buffing units and not summoning demons.

Likely both since he's still a Chaos Marine character and should thus have access to the generic faction summoning rule. But I agree, he's probably going to get a buff arau working off of the Daemon keyword.

I've got much to add, but couldn't resist quoting so that if someone else quotes me, the quote would read Geifer -> Galas -> Galef, since I often think someone is quoting me at first when I see the other 2 names.

But to make this post relevant, I agree: The Master of Possesion is likely just going to have buff rules for Possessed, Oblits and Mutilators considering Possessed & Oblits are in the new set.
There might be something for summoning Daemons, but I wouldn't be surprised if not.
I'd also wager the new Oblit includes Mutilator options (or at least it should)

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 Galef wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

 Galas wrote:
I think the master of possesion will work buffing units and not summoning demons.

Likely both since he's still a Chaos Marine character and should thus have access to the generic faction summoning rule. But I agree, he's probably going to get a buff arau working off of the Daemon keyword.

I've got much to add, but couldn't resist quoting so that if someone else quotes me, the quote would read Geifer -> Galas -> Galef, since I often think someone is quoting me at first when I see the other 2 names.

But to make this post relevant, I agree: The Master of Possesion is likely just going to have buff rules for Possessed, Oblits and Mutilators considering Possessed & Oblits are in the new set.
There might be something for summoning Daemons, but I wouldn't be surprised if not.
I'd also wager the new Oblit includes Mutilator options (or at least it should)

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One of the pictures looked very much like a Mutilator. But yeah, good point about the Daemon keyword for Obliterators, Mutilators, Possessed, and Daemon Engines.

Obviously difficult to be sure on current info, but is anyone else a little concerned Abaddon is going to look like a giant walking W?

Probably been posted, but here's the other Bane Obliterator from the video:

That Chaos codpiece!
Right in my face!

 dan2026 wrote:
That Chaos codpiece!
Right in my face!

This model is a walking testament to harassment. I feel harmed by it's image.

Such a Chaos thing to do.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Probably been posted, but here's the other Bane Obliterator from the video:

No one cared who he was until he put on the mask.

I do love those Oblits, they are fantastic. Im gonna need both halves of the box and like 2 of the boxes at least.

another swing and a miss for that oblit, the organic parts are terrible, its re used CAD design ... again... so disappointed with them so far.

Still the rest of the chaos stuff looks really good.

I've already started putting a few pennies away for this set...I will have more Primaris

The possessed art we see in the trailer has a head not like any of the ones in the current kit, and the crab claw is much more organic then the current models. I've been wondering if this is a artist take on the current models or a hint they will be getting a update also.

 Lockark wrote:
I've been wondering if this is a artist take on the current models or a hint they will be getting a update also.

If they're in the box, and I'm assuming they are (given that they feature prominently on the cover art), they will get new sculpts.

To quote Warhammer Community

But there’s a twist – every single model in the box is a brand-new sculpt.

That claw thing is a rumour engine solved so there will be mutilators (that's my guess what they are) in the box

PiñaColada wrote:
That claw thing is a rumour engine solved so there will be mutilators (that's my guess what they are) in the box

Possessed, I’m pretty sure. Would make sense with the leader being a Master of Possesions, and it doesn’t look anything like the Obliterators, like you’d expect Mutilators to.

PiñaColada wrote:
That claw thing is a rumour engine solved so there will be mutilators (that's my guess what they are) in the box

I don't think these are Mutilators, because Fluffwise, Mutilators wear Terminator Armour.

Mutilators are HTH Oblits. I hope that both are included in the kit... but I'm expecting 1 super expensive Oblit per box...

I am confused, why do people think the Oblits are a multi part kit rather than just monopose in the Shadow Spear box? The heavy flamer/ assault cannon one is literally the one on the cover art.

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
I am confused, why do people think the Oblits are a multi part kit rather than just monopose in the Shadow Spear box? The heavy flamer/ assault cannon one is literally the one on the cover art.

Because they are talking about their eventual solo release.

Ah, no guarantee on that though. We are still missing "bell dude", Primaris Ancient, Gravis Captain and Nurgle sorcerer from Dark Imperium and that was nigh on two years ago. Admittedly they are all character models.

I do hope we get a separate Obliterator/Mutilator box but I will put my hopes aside until we have some concrete information.

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
I am confused, why do people think the Oblits are a multi part kit rather than just monopose in the Shadow Spear box? The heavy flamer/ assault cannon one is literally the one on the cover art.

Because they are talking about their eventual solo release.

^^This.

Of course the Oblits we have seen are monopose just for the Shadow Spear box. But it would be stupid of GW not to include Mutilators in the INEVITABLE solo, multi-part kit that we are referencing.

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"Death and taxes".

 techsoldaten wrote:

 dan2026 wrote:
That Chaos codpiece!
Right in my face!

This model is a walking testament to harassment. I feel harmed by it's image.

Such a Chaos thing to do.

Beware the Eye of Horus

Wow! Cool stuff!

The oblits are great, but I have 6 I customized that I like better. I do like how these look more like the Hellbrute. And they finally ditched the mad baby heads from the previous models.

The Master of Possessions is a great model, I really like it.

The chaos marines (at least, the ones we've seen so far), are nice, but don't seem like anything new or different, which is fine, since their black legion, 'The Evil Ultramarines'.

Venomcrawler is cool. If I can use it with my deathguard (as an actual Deathguard model), I'll probably get one.

None of the primaris they've shown so far has really piqued my interest though.

Tooth & Claw had a number of Primaris things I really wanted, plus GSC, so it made sense to get. Once we see all the contents of this box, I'll have to see if I should get it.

I'm impressed though, I like the variety within the boxes they've released.

Well.im glad I went to all that effort to.turn a.couple of reivers into scouts... dagnabbit

 Galef wrote:

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
I am confused, why do people think the Oblits are a multi part kit rather than just monopose in the Shadow Spear box? The heavy flamer/ assault cannon one is literally the one on the cover art.

Because they are talking about their eventual solo release.

^^This.

Of course the Oblits we have seen are monopose just for the Shadow Spear box. But it would be stupid of GW not to include Mutilators in the INEVITABLE solo, multi-part kit that we are referencing.

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Nah all the battle boxes so far have contained the full retail kits. The new Oblits may effectively be monopose. But whatever is in the Darkspear box is what will appear on the shelves when they get a separate release.

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Nah all the battle boxes so far have contained the full retail kits. The new Oblits may effectively be monopose. But whatever is in the Darkspear box is what will appear on the shelves when they get a separate release.

True. Let's hope that the Oblits in the box are indeed dual-kit Mutilators. Even if "monopose" for the Oblits themselves, is wouldn't be hard to make the guns optional and have arm-swaps to be "monopose" Mutilators.

Mutilators aren't even good, but it's just too logical to make them use the same base model as Oblits. Also gets rid of more Finecast

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Had not considered that it would be a multi part battle box, just assumed that it was Dark Imperium 2.0. Either way we will know soon enough.

They said that unlike the previous Tooth and Claw and similar sets, all of the models were new sculpts, so that lends to the idea of it all being multi-part sets more than it does snap fit.

It says on WarCom it’s a battle box like Forgebane, Tooth and Claw and Wake the Dead.

WOw need to get those Primaris and the Venomcrawler for my armies. Hope that the demon engine is similar size to the DG drones.