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 Albino Squirrel wrote:
So, looks like the autocannon probably comes in the chaos marine box, then, as well as heavy bolter and missile launcher.

More likely just a heavy bolter and missile launcher, and the autocannon comes in the Havoc and the Shadowspear boxes.

 Albino Squirrel wrote:
So, looks like the autocannon probably comes in the chaos marine box, then, as well as heavy bolter and missile launcher.

Those are the Shadowspear Chaos Marines, not the new kit.

Sadness within, sadness without.

 Redemption wrote:

 Albino Squirrel wrote:
So, looks like the autocannon probably comes in the chaos marine box, then, as well as heavy bolter and missile launcher.

More likely just a heavy bolter and missile launcher, and the autocannon comes in the Havoc and the Shadowspear boxes.

Yes, you're right. I didn't notice that, I assumed it was a unit built from the new multi-part box. But it's not.

 Albino Squirrel wrote:
So, looks like the autocannon probably comes in the chaos marine box, then, as well as heavy bolter and missile launcher.

Hopefully, but it might just come in the Shadowspear set.

It would be odd for the Chaos Marine box to include all 3 Heavy weapons and NOT be a dual kit with Havocs. I would almost assume this would be the case if it wasn't for the unit feet shown on the Havoc preview.
Probably indicates both kits are separate.

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 Galef wrote:

 Albino Squirrel wrote:
So, looks like the autocannon probably comes in the chaos marine box, then, as well as heavy bolter and missile launcher.

Hopefully, but it might just come in the Shadowspear set.

It would be odd for the Chaos Marine box to include all 3 Heavy weapons and NOT be a dual kit with Havocs. I would almost assume this would be the case if it wasn't for the unit feet shown on the Havoc preview.
Probably indicates both kits are separate.

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They’d have shown the other build of the kit, if there was one, when they said it would be up for preorder on Saturday.

PiñaColada wrote:
So the terminator with the mace, teased in the vigilus artwork is to the far left of that picture. But is he wearing a cape? The guy in the artwork wasn't, but then again Abaddons cape is optional

Mind pointing it out for this blind man?

i missed this:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/03/18/heretic-astartes-focus-index/

next are:
Night Lords
The Word Bearers
World Eaters
Emperor’s Children
Alpha Legion
Renegades

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

PiñaColada wrote:
So the terminator with the mace, teased in the vigilus artwork is to the far left of that picture. But is he wearing a cape? The guy in the artwork wasn't, but then again Abaddons cape is optional

Mind pointing it out for this blind man?

All the way to the left in that picture, the terminator has a big mace in his right hand

It's just a power mace, he also has a combi weapon like the rest.

As an IW player, I'm happy with the current releases. I wasn't expecting anything new so it's all a bonus. A couple of havoc sqds babysat by a Lord with new trait, DP still making cultists immune to morale, and probably get the new walker character to babysit some maulerfiends/venomcrawlers (undecided on latter). I'll probably end up getting an elite detachment of Black Legion too using Chosen, terminators and Abaddon himself.
Not worried about the competitive build, that's not typically what I use my IW for.

You would think they would preview those fancy new havocs with...I don't know...the legion that basically invented them?

No? Just going to troll the Iron Warriors players GW?





*Bitterness Intensifies*

This week is a leadup to the weekend's preorder. Havoks arent up for preorder yet.

 BrotherGecko wrote:
You would think they would preview those fancy new havocs with...I don't know...the legion that basically invented them?

No? Just going to troll the Iron Warriors players GW?





*Bitterness Intensifies*

Yeeees let the bitterness Flow through you.
Considering the Modus operandi of IW is bitterness and spite, you will make a fine IW, now go dig a trench!

Odd how Devastation Battery doesn't include actual heavy firepower vehicles... such a shame that their creativity is so limited to exactly what new models are coming out.

 Kirasu wrote:
Odd how Devastation Battery doesn't include actual heavy firepower vehicles... such a shame that their creativity is so limited to exactly what new models are coming out.

its not odd what new models are they gonna be selling?
obilts and havocs

what models magically got a strat?
obilts and havocs

Not Online!!! wrote:

 BrotherGecko wrote:
You would think they would preview those fancy new havocs with...I don't know...the legion that basically invented them?

No? Just going to troll the Iron Warriors players GW?





*Bitterness Intensifies*

Yeeees let the bitterness Flow through you.
Considering the Modus operandi of IW is bitterness and spite, you will make a fine IW, now go dig a trench!

My IW wept such bitter tears they rusted and became Death Guard look a likes. They will probably stay that way for now.

 McGibs wrote:
This week is a leadup to the weekend's preorder. Havoks arent up for preorder yet.

Right... So, wait on the IW preview for relevant content (ie. Next week) and do one of the other remaining legions/renegades instead. They aren't likely to go through them all this week, so might as well match things up.

Voss wrote:

 McGibs wrote:
This week is a leadup to the weekend's preorder. Havoks arent up for preorder yet.

Right... So, wait on the IW preview for relevant content (ie. Next week) and do one of the other remaining legions/renegades instead. They aren't likely to go through them all this week, so might as well match things up.

I agree, I don't think it was well planned out. It doesn't really build product hype if you do a preview of new terminators and new rules for 1 legion and then follow it up with nothing more on those new terminators along with old models and bad rules. They should of structured it around what they had or could show.

 Latro_ wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
Odd how Devastation Battery doesn't include actual heavy firepower vehicles... such a shame that their creativity is so limited to exactly what new models are coming out.

its not odd what new models are they gonna be selling?
obilts and havocs

what models magically got a strat?
obilts and havocs

Yeah and it's dumb. They'd sell more models if the detachment allowed for more. I'll never understand their myopic views on not also adding some other heavy weaponry to this detachment or other new detachments in general. Better rules for more models = higher sales

Do we have a price point on the Stargate yet?

 Kirasu wrote:

 Latro_ wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
Odd how Devastation Battery doesn't include actual heavy firepower vehicles... such a shame that their creativity is so limited to exactly what new models are coming out.

its not odd what new models are they gonna be selling?
obilts and havocs

what models magically got a strat?
obilts and havocs

Yeah and it's dumb. They'd sell more models if the detachment allowed for more. I'll never understand their myopic views on not also adding some other heavy weaponry to this detachment or other new detachments in general. Better rules for more models = higher sales

I don't see a big issue, the detachment is clearly intended for iron warriors heavy weapon INFANTRY

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Do we have a price point on the Stargate yet?

$50 USD, €40, £30 GBP

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/4050/769765.page#10384134

So can you use this specialist detachment with any legion? Notice it has the <legion> keyword, not Iron Warriors.

A spearhead detachment with a cheap lord and havocs/oblits seems decent, rerolling ones to hit and wound against vehicles.

BigBrown wrote:
So can you use this specialist detachment with any legion? Notice it has the <legion> keyword, not Iron Warriors.

A spearhead detachment with a cheap lord and havocs/oblits seems decent, rerolling ones to hit and wound against vehicles.

yeah looks like it might be a generic detachment

 Latro_ wrote:
i missed this:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/03/18/heretic-astartes-focus-index/

next are:
Night Lords
The Word Bearers
World Eaters
Emperor’s Children
Alpha Legion
Renegades

I did not think they were going to keep Emperor's Children and World Eaters in the book... Makes me think the Slaanesh and Khorne books will not be themed around the Legion and instead they will have their own unique faction identity (like Khorne Daemonkin in 7th edition).

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
The bikes are the third iteration for chaos bikes.

This is one area where I genuinely don't remember, but what was each iteration of the Chaos bikes?

AFAIK, there were the ones with metal farings from around late 2nd, then the current ones with the topknot and helmet heads that, like the Marine one, also came with some metal variant bits for a while? Did they, like Marines, get a minor update that mostly just made the details a bit crisper and didn't really look different at a distance?

 Red_Five wrote:

 Latro_ wrote:
i missed this:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/03/18/heretic-astartes-focus-index/

next are:
Night Lords
The Word Bearers
World Eaters
Emperor’s Children
Alpha Legion
Renegades

I did not think they were going to keep Emperor's Children and World Eaters in the book... Makes me think the Slaanesh and Khorne books will not be themed around the Legion and instead they will have their own unique faction identity (like Khorne Daemonkin in 7th edition).

If they are coming out at all. Khorne just got a big AoS release and while some mini's got updated rules and we got the skull altar thingie, no WE/ Khorne book. Can't imagine Slaanesh being any different. And with WE and EC in the Vigilus Ablaze book Khorne and Slaanesh books are probably at the very least 1-2 years off (as in planned in the very long term or no plans yet).

Pandabeer wrote:

 Red_Five wrote:

 Latro_ wrote:
i missed this:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/03/18/heretic-astartes-focus-index/

next are:
Night Lords
The Word Bearers
World Eaters
Emperor’s Children
Alpha Legion
Renegades

I did not think they were going to keep Emperor's Children and World Eaters in the book... Makes me think the Slaanesh and Khorne books will not be themed around the Legion and instead they will have their own unique faction identity (like Khorne Daemonkin in 7th edition).

If they are coming out at all. Khorne just got a big AoS release and while some mini's got updated rules and we got the skull altar thingie, no WE/ Khorne book. Can't imagine Slaanesh being any different. And with WE and EC in the Vigilus Ablaze book Khorne and Slaanesh books are probably at the very least 1-2 years off (as in planned in the very long term or no plans yet).

I think it's more probable at this stage that a daemons book v2 is on the way with the revised rules for khorne stuff and the inevitable new slaanesh stuff.

topaxygouroun i wrote:
Sadness within, sadness without.

As an Iron Warrior, I too am pretty pissed that we have been stuck on garrison duty repainting our Obliterator Cults pink ever since the start of the Great Crusade 3.5th edition.