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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/19 09:53:11
Subject: Re:Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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Didn't one of the terminators have a chain axe? that would be a new weapon option for chaos terminators.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/19 10:26:54
Subject: Re:Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Sword-Wielding Bloodletter of Khorne
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BrianDavion wrote:Didn't one of the terminators have a chain axe? that would be a new weapon option for chaos terminators.
This is still a big question mark for me. Old metal terminator models used to have chain axes but those counted as power weapons from the 3rd edition onwards until they got replaced by the current plastic line.
Given how cheap power weapons are now, I see little use in chain axes. Unless you are going for a termicide squad and want to keep cost to a minimum.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/19 11:13:44
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
Australia
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I think it's safe to say it will count as a power axe, just as in FW's 30k range they have power axe kits for Cataphractii terminators that look like chain weapons.
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The Circle of Iniquity
The Fourth Seal
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/19 11:18:33
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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So bit of a complaint on the Shadowspear models as I sit here assembling them. The Infiltrator Sergeant does not have a helmet at all. On all the previous Primaris models that did not wear a helmet they’d have it hanging on their belt, or at least include it as an extra bit you could do that yourself with. This guy’s just missing it entirely.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/19 11:33:46
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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AduroT wrote:So bit of a complaint on the Shadowspear models as I sit here assembling them. The Infiltrator Sergeant does not have a helmet at all. On all the previous Primaris models that did not wear a helmet they’d have it hanging on their belt, or at least include it as an extra bit you could do that yourself with. This guy’s just missing it entirely.
Well, on the plus side, when the full kit comes out, there will likely be extra helmets in there that you can put on him. This way you don't need to carve off one on his belt. Or, you could swap his head for one of the other Marine heads in the box and give him a helmet right off the bat, though it will be lacking a skull on the forehead. But I agree, it is kind of dumb that they didn't give him a helmet at all, even if it meant more work to customize him.
I just hope that after this Chaos release is done, they release the regular versions of the Vanguard kits. I want full helmets for all of my Marines.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/19 11:51:45
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Boy am I glad I just got some Helbrutes. Who knows where you'll be able to buy them once the Start Collecting! vanishes into the ether.
GW sell the helbrute as its own kit no? In fact i know they do i'v bought one in the past
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/19 12:06:57
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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AduroT wrote:So bit of a complaint on the Shadowspear models as I sit here assembling them. The Infiltrator Sergeant does not have a helmet at all. On all the previous Primaris models that did not wear a helmet they’d have it hanging on their belt, or at least include it as an extra bit you could do that yourself with. This guy’s just missing it entirely.
It does explain why his head looks like it's been chewed by a Bloodthirster, though. Perfect "always wear your helmet to work" advertisement, that guy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/19 12:11:01
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Hissing Hybrid Metamorph
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I really hope they release a proper kit for Greater Possessed, but I have a feeling they're going to be like all the other smaller heroes in these kinds of box sets and never get anything outside of the box. I needs me more good looking possessed
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/19 12:13:40
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Iron Warrior preview is up. Man oh man, look at those Obliterators! Just the ones from Shadespire... Latro_ wrote:GW sell the helbrute as its own kit no? In fact i know they do i'v bought one in the past
Yeah, GW does, but c'mon, do you really think I'm going to pay GW retail price? In Australia??
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/19 12:13:46
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Krazy Grot Kutta Driva
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Iron Warriors Focus is online:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/03/19/19th-mar-heretic-astartes-focus-iron-warriorsgw-homepage-post-1/
There is almost nothing new, except the specialist detachment, or have I missed something? Automatically Appended Next Post: including new WL Trait:
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Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless — like soup. Now you put soup in a cup, it becomes the cup; You put soup into a bottle it becomes the bottle; You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now soup can flow or it can crash. Be soup, my friend. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/19 12:19:31
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Well, the Chaos Codex isn't being update as such, just having the Shadowspear stuff chucked in.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/19 12:24:22
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Hellacious Havoc
The Realm of Hungry Ghosts
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Insane Ivan wrote: AduroT wrote:So bit of a complaint on the Shadowspear models as I sit here assembling them. The Infiltrator Sergeant does not have a helmet at all. On all the previous Primaris models that did not wear a helmet they’d have it hanging on their belt, or at least include it as an extra bit you could do that yourself with. This guy’s just missing it entirely.
It does explain why his head looks like it's been chewed by a Bloodthirster, though. Perfect "always wear your helmet to work" advertisement, that guy.
All this talk about Astartes needing helmets always reminds of this really awesome article: https://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/03/40k-deep-thought-dont-put-helmets.html
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Bharring wrote:At worst, you'll spend all your time and money on a hobby you don't enjoy, hate everything you're doing, and drive no value out of what should be the best times of your life. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/19 12:29:24
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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re-roll to wounds of a 1 vs vehicles is decent enough for chaos... since they have very limited re-rolls to wound
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/19 12:33:17
Subject: Re:Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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new lightning claws from rumour engine hidden in plain sight
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/19 12:35:12
Subject: Re:Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
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Latro_ wrote:new lightning claws from rumour engine hidden in plain sight
oh those are AWESOME.
Unfortunately, like with most of the stuff they're showing off with these gorgeous kits....godawful in game.
That is what makes me the most sad with all this stuff. INCREDIBLE new kits for havocs, raptors, csm and terminators, these classic, amazing models...awful, unusable rules.
Why, GW, why couldn't you just prove the conspiracy theorists right just this once and give these amazing kits even usable rules?
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"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/19 12:39:50
Subject: Re:Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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For further conspiracy fun, that defiler looks photoshopped on. I wonder if it is covering something...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/19 12:41:21
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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And the autocannon held by the Marine. I think? Automatically Appended Next Post: No, wait. Closer inspection shows the combat blade on it. As you were.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 0058/03/19 12:48:24
Subject: Re:Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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think they PS a lot of their battle pics these days. This is the faction focus image from 2017... same WS is infront of the same LR
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/19 12:50:26
Subject: Re:Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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zedmeister wrote:For further conspiracy fun, that defiler looks photoshopped on. I wonder if it is covering something...
Same appears to be the case for the Lord Discordant and Maulerfiend and maybe even the Warpsmith and Landraider
Edit: what Latro said. Not the Warpsmith and Landraider then.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/19 12:52:46
Subject: Re:Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Latro_ wrote:think they PS a lot of their battle pics these days. This is the faction focus image from 2017... same WS is infront of the same LR
It's just the same models from the studio collection though?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/19 12:53:57
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Those LCs scream "MAKE ME A NIGHT LORD YOU COWARD". I guess I will have to obey. How terrible are Night Lords in the current CSM codex?
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Looking for a Skaven Doomwheel banner to repair my Nurgle knights. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/19 13:00:04
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Binabik15 wrote:Those LCs scream "MAKE ME A NIGHT LORD YOU COWARD". I guess I will have to obey. How terrible are Night Lords in the current CSM codex?
Well, erm, they play to morale shenanigans, problem is their signature unit Raptors, while looking good, ain't all that great. That said, if you want to troll your enemy blobs with morale they are decent.
Competitve they don't make the cut, like the new Oblits.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/19 13:02:40
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Speaking of Raptors. Nice they now at least better fit the wider aesthetic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/19 13:05:29
Subject: Re:Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Fixture of Dakka
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zedmeister wrote:For further conspiracy fun, that defiler looks photoshopped on. I wonder if it is covering something...

There's been a few articles and discussions on the Twitch stream about it; most of those big scenic shots use focus stacking to make sure all the models are in focus, from the front to the back of the composition.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/19 13:08:22
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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I will be honest, i get the urge to get myself some CSM just for the chainswords and boltpistols and the new models.(ofcourse i will also use a saw CUS FEEEEETH MONOPOSE BODIES!)
Then i will try to make a Raider Warband, and sing "You are a Pirate" whilest trying to get into melee. (with a mass Marine Army probably, IF the new Havocs look nice and get enough Autocannons.)
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/19 13:11:04
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
Netherlands
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Coddammit GW. Why on earth in the legion which still makes use of the underwhelming predators and vindicators, are these excluded from being able to become devastation battery detachments? You had this one chance for people to put vindicators on the field again...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/19 13:12:08
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Terrifying Doombull
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Nope, you didn't miss anything. Another reroll combo that requires up front CP and specific circumstances, plus some reprints of existing rules. This looks to be a fairly boring 8 days of 'previews'
Only surprise I'd that the warsmith model is still available. I honestly didn't know that (though I don't know how well it will fit amongst the new models)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/19 13:23:02
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
Netherlands
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Truth be said, the warlord trait is not bad at all for a buffing chaos lord sitting between 3 havoc units, for 80something points giving them reroll 1's to both hit and wound. It could also work on monsters honestly, and I really really wish that predators could become devastation battery. Then my 6 laspreds could find their way into a list finally.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/19 13:28:35
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
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So the terminator with the mace, teased in the vigilus artwork is to the far left of that picture. But is he wearing a cape? The guy in the artwork wasn't, but then again Abaddons cape is optional
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/19 13:41:33
Subject: Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
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Infiltrating Broodlord
Lake County, Illinois
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So, looks like the autocannon probably comes in the chaos marine box, then, as well as heavy bolter and missile launcher.
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