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8 chaos Marines were $25 when tacticals was $30.

Also guardsmen were 20 guardsmen for $30.

 aracersss wrote:
With new slaanesh coming soon for aos ... I can only bet new 40k EC follow through soonish

Here's hoping!

drbored wrote:

 aracersss wrote:
With new slaanesh coming soon for aos ... I can only bet new 40k EC follow through soonish

Here's hoping!

I suspect the release wave'll be small and limited to things we have given the new CSM codex release, proably a noise marine kit and call it a day

BrianDavion wrote:

drbored wrote:

 aracersss wrote:
With new slaanesh coming soon for aos ... I can only bet new 40k EC follow through soonish

Here's hoping!

I suspect the release wave'll be small and limited to things we have given the new CSM codex release, proably a noise marine kit and call it a day

Yeah I doubt we'll see Emperor's Children for awhile. And when we do, we'll get what we've seen for DG and Thousand Sons: Noise Marines, Terminators, Fulgrim, a bunch of characters, and a chaff unit (which already exists in AOS I think, so maybe not that.) And probably a monster/tank or two. Given how much Chaos just got, I doubt we'll see this for awhile. I expect them to release a new Codex and probably some more Primaris soon to round out regular marines and bring them up to speed with Chaos. We're used to Chaos being the prototype for them, so I expect this to continue.

BrianDavion wrote:
I suspect the release wave'll be small and limited to things we have given the new CSM codex release, proably a noise marine kit and call it a day

I don't see them releasing Noise Marines without a full-blown Emperor's Children Codex. Fulgrim (all Snake'd up!), Noise Marines, Noise Marine Terminators, obligatory character clampacks for 1-offs with absurd sound-related ajective nounverb names (Loudblaze Cacophonator, Thundercrack Wailtormentor, y'know. their usual nonsense), maybe a Daemon Engine of some sort, a terrain piece (or just the one Slaanesh is getting in AoS), pink/purple dice, a book, and datacards that will be invalid within 2-3 years.

Has anyone any Info about Fabius Bile? With the rehaul of renegades, where does he belong to?

They'll find a way to put him in the Emperor's Children Codex, even though he renounced his Legion.

arch apotechary theme for EC for sure

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
They'll find a way to put him in the Emperor's Children Codex, even though he renounced his Legion.

I hope not, although I fear you're right.

Waaaghbert wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
They'll find a way to put him in the Emperor's Children Codex, even though he renounced his Legion.

I hope not, although I fear you're right.

I tend to look at it this way:

The four main "Cult" characters - Typhus, Ahriman, Kharn and Fabius - are all kinda hated by their parent Legion.

Typhus made the Death Guard what they are today, and Mortarion and him aren't exactly friends.
Ahriman made the Thousand Sons what they are today, and whilst they seemed to have patched things up a bit, Magnus was certainly no fan of Ahriman for a long time.
Kharn shattered his own Legion, and still attacks his allies to this day!
Fabius turned away from Slaaneshi-worship for his own goals.

So they're all outcasts in a way, so it's not awful if he's in the Emp Children Codex.

For the more "loyal" Emperor's Children we have Lucius the Eternally Useless and the inevitable return of Lord Snakeington.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Waaaghbert wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
They'll find a way to put him in the Emperor's Children Codex, even though he renounced his Legion.

I hope not, although I fear you're right.

I tend to look at it this way:

The four main "Cult" characters - Typhus, Ahriman, Kharn and Fabius - are all kinda hated by their parent Legion.

Typhus made the Death Guard what they are today, and Mortarion and him aren't exactly friends.
Ahriman made the Thousand Sons what they are today, and whilst they seemed to have patched things up a bit, Magnus was certainly no fan of Ahriman for a long time.
Kharn shattered his own Legion, and still attacks his allies to this day!
Fabius turned away from Slaaneshi-worship for his own goals.

So they're all outcasts in a way, so it's not awful if he's in the Emp Children Codex.

For the more "loyal" Emperor's Children we have Lucius the Eternally Useless and the inevitable return of Lord Snakeington.

I get that the other three also renounced their legion, but they are still true to their respectively gods. Fabius is different as he never worshipped Slaanesh in any way and he sells his services to the highest bidding.

I still fear that you are right, and there is some logic in that, although I dislike it.

Have lucius as the legion champion, but keep fabius in the codex. Just replace his emperors children keyword with a mercenary rule that he can join chaos marine armies without using or disrupting legion traits.

Or a Fabius Bile mini dex, include some weird enhanced marines in there and you're good to go.

I don't think there's necessarily any correlation between new daemon ranges and new 40k ranges. We've had the new Khorne stuff for quite a while but still the awful old zerkers.

If anything it matches up more with AoS than 40k. A good proportion of the stuff in the Tsons book is just AoS models ported across.

As of the moment, there is not a dedicated "chaff" unit for Slaanesh armies. And so far, I think only Tzeentch has had the chaff unit exist in both 40k and AoS (Daemons excluded.) Poxwalkers are only for 40k, Kairac alcoytes are only in AoS (though, artwork of them has shown up in 40k...), and bloodreavers are only in AoS. Only Tzaangors can be used in both systems, and even then, the 40k ones come with an additional gun sprue. (Not sure about the ones on disks, but I think they're all usable in 40k)

You guys make it sound like there's some desperate need to shift Fabius to another codex. Remember that Lucius was specifically introduced to give Emprah's Kiddies a Slaanesh worshipping named character (and possibly to make people forget about the unforgettable DOOMRIDER!). Fabius can stay in the general Chaos Marine codex where he belongs because that book isn't going anywhere and the eventual Emperor's Children codex won't be in dire need of named characters with Lucius, Fulgrim and possibly any named daemons Age of Sigmar might get and that get ported over.

Mandragola wrote:
I don't think there's necessarily any correlation between new daemon ranges and new 40k ranges. We've had the new Khorne stuff for quite a while but still the awful old zerkers.

If anything it matches up more with AoS than 40k. A good proportion of the stuff in the Tsons book is just AoS models ported across.

The pattern people are hoping for exists. Both Tzeentch and Burgle got their AoS and 40k releases back to back. Khorne simply was too early for this particular thing, but even then GW realized the crossover potential and handed out new Bloodthrister profiles to go with the new model as well as introduced Khorne Daemonkin, which ended up being the first and only of its kind even though people hoped for other gods to get the same treatment.

And since Khorne was first and Tzeentch and Nurgle followed, the two most recent examples of a god specific AoS release keep up the hope that a 40k Slaanesh release isn't too far off.

Of course, people also hope that the AoS release will not be just a daemon release, me being one of them, and that we'll see mortal followers of Slaanesh as well. If that's not the case, we will most likely be looking at a half assed attempt like Khorne got. Nobody will be happy. GW will suck. You know the drill. But if it's both new daemonic and mortal units that see their release with Hedonites, there's actually a good chance to see 40k Slaaneshi releases as well fairly close to the AoS release.

Considering we got genestealer cults and chaos marines back to back, followed by slaanesh daemons that can be used in both systems, I foresee them focusing on AoS for a little while. I am praying that Emperors Children get their codex sooner rather than later but I want it to be with much fanfare and a huge wave of releases, which wont be for a few months at least. That said, considering how much nurgle stuff came out after the release of 8th edition, I dont think GW is afraid if flooding the market with one particular chaos god for a while.

My main concern, honestly, is the high amount of negativity around the chaos releases as of late. Every single article about chaos marines that GW posts is met with more bile than any other faction they've focused on since 8th launched. I'll be the first to suggest that they probably deserve it since they seem so out of touch with what chaos players want, but my concern is that in the future they may forego giving chaos marines new stuff thinking "well, no matter what we do they arent happy so let's just skip them".

With all the talk about Daemonkin, I'm surprised there hasn't been talk about Fabius.

Combined with a Master of Possession and Greater Possessed, he could made Possessed and Obliterator models even nastier.

If they make old style guitar Noise Marines like the recent one-of special one I will be very very broke!

So, nothing happened with that 2x hand terminator lord illustration?

 Malika2 wrote:
Or a Fabius Bile mini dex, include some weird enhanced marines in there and you're good to go.

He will get folded back into the Emperors children book whenever it's released. Kharne, Ahriman and Typhus were all outcasts after all and they seem to like folding them back in. IDK, could be wrong but it makes it easier for them that way.

Fabulous Bill works better as a rogue agent. Lucius is the better option for Emperor's Children.

I always considered Lucius the Eternal as the EC 'character'. Fabius Bile does need a new model though. I wouldn't mind them throwing him into the EC Codex. I don't really get the issue. The main thing is that he has a datasheet and he doesn't interrupt legion tactics when he's added into a detachment.

Still no news on the Sprue for CSM Terminators?




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Also are they trying to spite us?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/03/28/heretic-astartes-tactica-havocs/

If you’re using multiple units of Havocs, you’ll likely have enough heavy weapons to take full units with the same weapon! If you keep it low on points, you can run four Heavy Bolters for 116 points per five-man unit. However, you can (and should!) invest in the new reaper chaincannons to dramatically increase your number of shots. These incredible weapons give you 8 shots at up to 24”, but since the Havocs can move and shoot with no penalty, you have an effective 30” range – I always believe you should consider a unit’s ‘total’ threat range when determining if it’s right for you.

That is like rubbing salt in.

Not Online!!! wrote:
Still no news on the Sprue for CSM Terminators?




Automatically Appended Next Post:
Also are they trying to spite us?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/03/28/heretic-astartes-tactica-havocs/

If you’re using multiple units of Havocs, you’ll likely have enough heavy weapons to take full units with the same weapon! If you keep it low on points, you can run four Heavy Bolters for 116 points per five-man unit. However, you can (and should!) invest in the new reaper chaincannons to dramatically increase your number of shots. These incredible weapons give you 8 shots at up to 24”, but since the Havocs can move and shoot with no penalty, you have an effective 30” range – I always believe you should consider a unit’s ‘total’ threat range when determining if it’s right for you.

That is like rubbing salt in.

Haha, that quote is pure gold. eBay sellers are going to make a penny on that chaincannon.

I'm extremely annoyed by this "Give the new weapon a profile that make the old weapon seem like a tickler". Very very annoying.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I'm extremely annoyed by this "Give the new weapon a profile that make the old weapon seem like a tickler". Very very annoying.

"if you field multiple units of havocs, you will have enough guns to equip the whole squad with the same gun"

Meanwhile we get a rocket launcher in the csm box but no autocannon, ya know, the gun that is kinda a checkmark of csm....

I know it's been mentioned multiple times already, but ForgeWorld makes rotor cannons that will probably be much cheaper than buying individual bitz from bitz sellers.

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-WW/Proteus-Pattern-Rotor-Cannon-Set

And are very clean and non-Chaotic.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
And are very clean and non-Chaotic.

Just as the Iron Warriors would have wanted...