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Not Online!!! wrote: I personally would bet that the mono god Cults get access to cultmarines as troops, whilest red Corsairs probably are free to choose.
That wouldn't make a ton of sense, for the Scourged at least. They don't have any meaningful connection to the Thousand Sons, they wouldn't have any Rubric Marines that they weren't borrowing or stealing.
Hiring, don't forget that the sorcerers also from time to time work as mercs.
Yeah, if only there was some way to represent the minority of Rubric Marines the Scourged may have at their disposal. Maybe if they were in a different slot, so they still have to run their own guys as their core troop but can potentially take Rubric Marines in a more limited fashion in the way that the other, non-Thousand Sons legions do. If only such a thing existed.
You wound me, but in case of the Purge Plaguemarines make sense since they are a splintter of the deathguard.
Also Berzeker Chirurgeons do exist.
And the Flawless host also has a modus operandi close enough to the emperors Children.
But i get your point.
The Purge are a renegade chapter and not a splinter off the Death Guard.
The Purge are a renegade chapter and not a splinter off the Death Guard.
Fluff wise, Purge are one of the many splinters of the former Death Guard, because Death Guard didn't exist in 40K as a coherent Legion before the 8th ret-con. The Death Guard flagship was commanded by Huron and the rest was scattered across the galaxy in rogue warbands, joined the Black Legion, etc.., etc..
That's only partly true. In GWs Codizes they never were mentioned to be Death Guard, not even only Nurgle aligned. Only in FWs Siege of Vraks they were Part of the Death Guard, like almost every Nurgle warband.
I forgot how they're described in the DG Codex, they might Feature in some small blurb there,but I'm only sure about the Cleaved.
Not Online!!! wrote: I personally would bet that the mono god Cults get access to cultmarines as troops, whilest red Corsairs probably are free to choose.
That wouldn't make a ton of sense, for the Scourged at least. They don't have any meaningful connection to the Thousand Sons, they wouldn't have any Rubric Marines that they weren't borrowing or stealing.
Hiring, don't forget that the sorcerers also from time to time work as mercs.
Yeah, if only there was some way to represent the minority of Rubric Marines the Scourged may have at their disposal. Maybe if they were in a different slot, so they still have to run their own guys as their core troop but can potentially take Rubric Marines in a more limited fashion in the way that the other, non-Thousand Sons legions do. If only such a thing existed.
You wound me, but in case of the Purge Plaguemarines make sense since they are a splintter of the deathguard.
Also Berzeker Chirurgeons do exist.
And the Flawless host also has a modus operandi close enough to the emperors Children.
But i get your point.
The Purge are a renegade chapter and not a splinter off the Death Guard.
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
Not Online!!! wrote: I personally would bet that the mono god Cults get access to cultmarines as troops, whilest red Corsairs probably are free to choose.
That wouldn't make a ton of sense, for the Scourged at least. They don't have any meaningful connection to the Thousand Sons, they wouldn't have any Rubric Marines that they weren't borrowing or stealing.
Hiring, don't forget that the sorcerers also from time to time work as mercs.
Yeah, if only there was some way to represent the minority of Rubric Marines the Scourged may have at their disposal. Maybe if they were in a different slot, so they still have to run their own guys as their core troop but can potentially take Rubric Marines in a more limited fashion in the way that the other, non-Thousand Sons legions do. If only such a thing existed.
You wound me, but in case of the Purge Plaguemarines make sense since they are a splintter of the deathguard.
Also Berzeker Chirurgeons do exist.
And the Flawless host also has a modus operandi close enough to the emperors Children.
But i get your point.
The Purge are a renegade chapter and not a splinter off the Death Guard.
That one being a wiki and the only wiki to list The Purge as being part of the Death Guard. But GW lists them as a renegade chapter so whatever Lexicanum thinks, its wrong.
Not Online!!! wrote: I personally would bet that the mono god Cults get access to cultmarines as troops, whilest red Corsairs probably are free to choose.
That wouldn't make a ton of sense, for the Scourged at least. They don't have any meaningful connection to the Thousand Sons, they wouldn't have any Rubric Marines that they weren't borrowing or stealing.
Hiring, don't forget that the sorcerers also from time to time work as mercs.
Yeah, if only there was some way to represent the minority of Rubric Marines the Scourged may have at their disposal. Maybe if they were in a different slot, so they still have to run their own guys as their core troop but can potentially take Rubric Marines in a more limited fashion in the way that the other, non-Thousand Sons legions do. If only such a thing existed.
You wound me, but in case of the Purge Plaguemarines make sense since they are a splintter of the deathguard.
Also Berzeker Chirurgeons do exist.
And the Flawless host also has a modus operandi close enough to the emperors Children.
But i get your point.
The Purge are a renegade chapter and not a splinter off the Death Guard.
That one being a wiki and the only wiki to list The Purge as being part of the Death Guard. But GW lists them as a renegade chapter so whatever Lexicanum thinks, its wrong.
While referencing actual sources.
So far we have seen nothing to suggest them not beeing DG
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
Not Online!!! wrote: I personally would bet that the mono god Cults get access to cultmarines as troops, whilest red Corsairs probably are free to choose.
That wouldn't make a ton of sense, for the Scourged at least. They don't have any meaningful connection to the Thousand Sons, they wouldn't have any Rubric Marines that they weren't borrowing or stealing.
Hiring, don't forget that the sorcerers also from time to time work as mercs.
Yeah, if only there was some way to represent the minority of Rubric Marines the Scourged may have at their disposal. Maybe if they were in a different slot, so they still have to run their own guys as their core troop but can potentially take Rubric Marines in a more limited fashion in the way that the other, non-Thousand Sons legions do. If only such a thing existed.
You wound me, but in case of the Purge Plaguemarines make sense since they are a splintter of the deathguard.
Also Berzeker Chirurgeons do exist.
And the Flawless host also has a modus operandi close enough to the emperors Children.
But i get your point.
The Purge are a renegade chapter and not a splinter off the Death Guard.
That one being a wiki and the only wiki to list The Purge as being part of the Death Guard. But GW lists them as a renegade chapter so whatever Lexicanum thinks, its wrong.
While referencing actual sources.
So far we have seen nothing to suggest them not beeing DG
FW Sources list them as Death Guard, GW Sources list them as having uncertain origins.
Since GW wrote about them most frequently (and frequently ignores or changes FW writing) I think its safe to assume the Uncertain Origins.
Not Online!!! wrote: I personally would bet that the mono god Cults get access to cultmarines as troops, whilest red Corsairs probably are free to choose.
That wouldn't make a ton of sense, for the Scourged at least. They don't have any meaningful connection to the Thousand Sons, they wouldn't have any Rubric Marines that they weren't borrowing or stealing.
Hiring, don't forget that the sorcerers also from time to time work as mercs.
Yeah, if only there was some way to represent the minority of Rubric Marines the Scourged may have at their disposal. Maybe if they were in a different slot, so they still have to run their own guys as their core troop but can potentially take Rubric Marines in a more limited fashion in the way that the other, non-Thousand Sons legions do. If only such a thing existed.
You wound me, but in case of the Purge Plaguemarines make sense since they are a splintter of the deathguard.
Also Berzeker Chirurgeons do exist.
And the Flawless host also has a modus operandi close enough to the emperors Children.
But i get your point.
The Purge are a renegade chapter and not a splinter off the Death Guard.
That one being a wiki and the only wiki to list The Purge as being part of the Death Guard. But GW lists them as a renegade chapter so whatever Lexicanum thinks, its wrong.
While referencing actual sources.
So far we have seen nothing to suggest them not beeing DG
FW Sources list them as Death Guard, GW Sources list them as having uncertain origins.
Since GW wrote about them most frequently (and frequently ignores or changes FW writing) I think its safe to assume the Uncertain Origins.
Frequently means nothing in terms of depth tough.
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
Not Online!!! wrote: I personally would bet that the mono god Cults get access to cultmarines as troops, whilest red Corsairs probably are free to choose.
That wouldn't make a ton of sense, for the Scourged at least. They don't have any meaningful connection to the Thousand Sons, they wouldn't have any Rubric Marines that they weren't borrowing or stealing.
Hiring, don't forget that the sorcerers also from time to time work as mercs.
Yeah, if only there was some way to represent the minority of Rubric Marines the Scourged may have at their disposal. Maybe if they were in a different slot, so they still have to run their own guys as their core troop but can potentially take Rubric Marines in a more limited fashion in the way that the other, non-Thousand Sons legions do. If only such a thing existed.
You wound me, but in case of the Purge Plaguemarines make sense since they are a splintter of the deathguard.
Also Berzeker Chirurgeons do exist.
And the Flawless host also has a modus operandi close enough to the emperors Children.
But i get your point.
The Purge are a renegade chapter and not a splinter off the Death Guard.
That one being a wiki and the only wiki to list The Purge as being part of the Death Guard. But GW lists them as a renegade chapter so whatever Lexicanum thinks, its wrong.
While referencing actual sources.
So far we have seen nothing to suggest them not beeing DG
GW lists them as a renegade chapter so we have seen GW list them as a renegade chapter.
They can still fight under the Death Guard and be considered a sub faction without being the Death Guard. Just like all the sub factions under the Black Legion that are not the Black Legion.
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Not Online!!! wrote: I personally would bet that the mono god Cults get access to cultmarines as troops, whilest red Corsairs probably are free to choose.
That wouldn't make a ton of sense, for the Scourged at least. They don't have any meaningful connection to the Thousand Sons, they wouldn't have any Rubric Marines that they weren't borrowing or stealing.
Hiring, don't forget that the sorcerers also from time to time work as mercs.
Yeah, if only there was some way to represent the minority of Rubric Marines the Scourged may have at their disposal. Maybe if they were in a different slot, so they still have to run their own guys as their core troop but can potentially take Rubric Marines in a more limited fashion in the way that the other, non-Thousand Sons legions do. If only such a thing existed.
You wound me, but in case of the Purge Plaguemarines make sense since they are a splintter of the deathguard. Also Berzeker Chirurgeons do exist.
And the Flawless host also has a modus operandi close enough to the emperors Children.
But i get your point.
The Purge are a renegade chapter and not a splinter off the Death Guard.
That one being a wiki and the only wiki to list The Purge as being part of the Death Guard. But GW lists them as a renegade chapter so whatever Lexicanum thinks, its wrong.
While referencing actual sources.
So far we have seen nothing to suggest them not beeing DG
FW Sources list them as Death Guard, GW Sources list them as having uncertain origins.
Since GW wrote about them most frequently (and frequently ignores or changes FW writing) I think its safe to assume the Uncertain Origins.
Frequently means nothing in terms of depth tough.
From what I can tell there wasnt really any depth to them in the Siege of Vraks either. Where their vehicles are also shown in the Colors of the Death Guard and not the colors of The Purge. Vraks I believe is also older than some of their listings as being of Uncertain Origin.
I think it more likely to be a FW mistake, or them listing another splinter of the Death Guard as The Purge.
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VictorVonTzeentch wrote: Are you sure about that? Have they said thats all for the Chaos release? Wasn't there some Chaos Sorcerer Rumor Engine or something?
That has me intrigued. If not, then please continue!
To add:
They could easily add some of the units that didn't get updated (Chaos Termie Lords/Sorcerers) in Killteam boxes or as Blackstone Fortress packs, right?
VictorVonTzeentch wrote: Are you sure about that? Have they said thats all for the Chaos release? Wasn't there some Chaos Sorcerer Rumor Engine or something?
That has me intrigued. If not, then please continue!
To add:
They could easily add some of the units that didn't get updated (Chaos Termie Lords/Sorcerers) in Killteam boxes or as Blackstone Fortress packs, right?
Well the traitor guard would fit the bill for cultists.
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
2019/03/27 18:31:43
Subject: Re:Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
In vigilus isn't there a part where the deathguard attack the purge because they are killing everyone while the death guard were trying to infect people with plagues.
I note that the latest Regimental Standard link to the Fallen page on the GW site with an entertaining bit of foreshadowing. Has that been discussed to death yet?
Please excuse any spelling errors. I use a tablet frequently and software keyboards are a pain!
I am pretty sure it wouldn't be the first time a new book had the old models in the pictures. Especially if GW didn't bother making a new picture to print in their reprinted book with added pages. So there could be a new sorcerer but GW just didn't waste the money putting its picture in the book.
Flinty wrote: I note that the latest Regimental Standard link to the Fallen page on the GW site with an entertaining bit of foreshadowing. Has that been discussed to death yet?
Probably just a nod to the fact that the Fallen play a pretty big minor role in the second Vigilus book.
Flinty wrote: I note that the latest Regimental Standard link to the Fallen page on the GW site with an entertaining bit of foreshadowing. Has that been discussed to death yet?
And I like how they recommend you get your lasgun working again by chanting in binary: "Pew! Pew!" or singing "Ode to a Flashlight".
Sgt. Cortez wrote: That's only partly true. In GWs Codizes they never were mentioned to be Death Guard, not even only Nurgle aligned. Only in FWs Siege of Vraks they were Part of the Death Guard, like almost every Nurgle warband.
I forgot how they're described in the DG Codex, they might Feature in some small blurb there,but I'm only sure about the Cleaved.
In ADB's "Black Legion", the Purge are noted as being a splinter faction of the Death Guard.