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I personally would bet that the mono god Cults get access to cultmarines as troops, whilest red Corsairs probably are free to choose.

That wouldn't make a ton of sense, for the Scourged at least. They don't have any meaningful connection to the Thousand Sons, they wouldn't have any Rubric Marines that they weren't borrowing or stealing.

Hiring, don't forget that the sorcerers also from time to time work as mercs.

Yeah, if only there was some way to represent the minority of Rubric Marines the Scourged may have at their disposal. Maybe if they were in a different slot, so they still have to run their own guys as their core troop but can potentially take Rubric Marines in a more limited fashion in the way that the other, non-Thousand Sons legions do. If only such a thing existed.


You wound me, but in case of the Purge Plaguemarines make sense since they are a splintter of the deathguard.
Also Berzeker Chirurgeons do exist.

And the Flawless host also has a modus operandi close enough to the emperors Children.

But i get your point.

The Purge are a renegade chapter and not a splinter off the Death Guard.

 
   
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 BrotherGecko wrote:

The Purge are a renegade chapter and not a splinter off the Death Guard.



Fluff wise, Purge are one of the many splinters of the former Death Guard, because Death Guard didn't exist in 40K as a coherent Legion before the 8th ret-con. The Death Guard flagship was commanded by Huron and the rest was scattered across the galaxy in rogue warbands, joined the Black Legion, etc.., etc..
   
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That's only partly true. In GWs Codizes they never were mentioned to be Death Guard, not even only Nurgle aligned. Only in FWs Siege of Vraks they were Part of the Death Guard, like almost every Nurgle warband.
I forgot how they're described in the DG Codex, they might Feature in some small blurb there,but I'm only sure about the Cleaved.
   
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 Arachnofiend wrote:
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I personally would bet that the mono god Cults get access to cultmarines as troops, whilest red Corsairs probably are free to choose.

That wouldn't make a ton of sense, for the Scourged at least. They don't have any meaningful connection to the Thousand Sons, they wouldn't have any Rubric Marines that they weren't borrowing or stealing.

Hiring, don't forget that the sorcerers also from time to time work as mercs.

Yeah, if only there was some way to represent the minority of Rubric Marines the Scourged may have at their disposal. Maybe if they were in a different slot, so they still have to run their own guys as their core troop but can potentially take Rubric Marines in a more limited fashion in the way that the other, non-Thousand Sons legions do. If only such a thing existed.


You wound me, but in case of the Purge Plaguemarines make sense since they are a splintter of the deathguard.
Also Berzeker Chirurgeons do exist.

And the Flawless host also has a modus operandi close enough to the emperors Children.

But i get your point.

The Purge are a renegade chapter and not a splinter off the Death Guard.


Allow me to point to this: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/The_Purge



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Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
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Not Online!!! wrote:
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 BrotherGecko wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:

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 Arachnofiend wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
 Arachnofiend wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
I personally would bet that the mono god Cults get access to cultmarines as troops, whilest red Corsairs probably are free to choose.

That wouldn't make a ton of sense, for the Scourged at least. They don't have any meaningful connection to the Thousand Sons, they wouldn't have any Rubric Marines that they weren't borrowing or stealing.

Hiring, don't forget that the sorcerers also from time to time work as mercs.

Yeah, if only there was some way to represent the minority of Rubric Marines the Scourged may have at their disposal. Maybe if they were in a different slot, so they still have to run their own guys as their core troop but can potentially take Rubric Marines in a more limited fashion in the way that the other, non-Thousand Sons legions do. If only such a thing existed.


You wound me, but in case of the Purge Plaguemarines make sense since they are a splintter of the deathguard.
Also Berzeker Chirurgeons do exist.

And the Flawless host also has a modus operandi close enough to the emperors Children.

But i get your point.

The Purge are a renegade chapter and not a splinter off the Death Guard.


Allow me to point to this: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/The_Purge



That one being a wiki and the only wiki to list The Purge as being part of the Death Guard. But GW lists them as a renegade chapter so whatever Lexicanum thinks, its wrong.

 
   
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 BrotherGecko wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
Spoiler:
 BrotherGecko wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:

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 Arachnofiend wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
 Arachnofiend wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
I personally would bet that the mono god Cults get access to cultmarines as troops, whilest red Corsairs probably are free to choose.

That wouldn't make a ton of sense, for the Scourged at least. They don't have any meaningful connection to the Thousand Sons, they wouldn't have any Rubric Marines that they weren't borrowing or stealing.

Hiring, don't forget that the sorcerers also from time to time work as mercs.

Yeah, if only there was some way to represent the minority of Rubric Marines the Scourged may have at their disposal. Maybe if they were in a different slot, so they still have to run their own guys as their core troop but can potentially take Rubric Marines in a more limited fashion in the way that the other, non-Thousand Sons legions do. If only such a thing existed.


You wound me, but in case of the Purge Plaguemarines make sense since they are a splintter of the deathguard.
Also Berzeker Chirurgeons do exist.

And the Flawless host also has a modus operandi close enough to the emperors Children.

But i get your point.

The Purge are a renegade chapter and not a splinter off the Death Guard.


Allow me to point to this: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/The_Purge



That one being a wiki and the only wiki to list The Purge as being part of the Death Guard. But GW lists them as a renegade chapter so whatever Lexicanum thinks, its wrong.


While referencing actual sources.

So far we have seen nothing to suggest them not beeing DG

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GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
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Not Online!!! wrote:
 BrotherGecko wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
Spoiler:
 BrotherGecko wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:

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 Arachnofiend wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
 Arachnofiend wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
I personally would bet that the mono god Cults get access to cultmarines as troops, whilest red Corsairs probably are free to choose.

That wouldn't make a ton of sense, for the Scourged at least. They don't have any meaningful connection to the Thousand Sons, they wouldn't have any Rubric Marines that they weren't borrowing or stealing.

Hiring, don't forget that the sorcerers also from time to time work as mercs.

Yeah, if only there was some way to represent the minority of Rubric Marines the Scourged may have at their disposal. Maybe if they were in a different slot, so they still have to run their own guys as their core troop but can potentially take Rubric Marines in a more limited fashion in the way that the other, non-Thousand Sons legions do. If only such a thing existed.


You wound me, but in case of the Purge Plaguemarines make sense since they are a splintter of the deathguard.
Also Berzeker Chirurgeons do exist.

And the Flawless host also has a modus operandi close enough to the emperors Children.

But i get your point.

The Purge are a renegade chapter and not a splinter off the Death Guard.


Allow me to point to this: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/The_Purge



That one being a wiki and the only wiki to list The Purge as being part of the Death Guard. But GW lists them as a renegade chapter so whatever Lexicanum thinks, its wrong.


While referencing actual sources.

So far we have seen nothing to suggest them not beeing DG



FW Sources list them as Death Guard, GW Sources list them as having uncertain origins.

Since GW wrote about them most frequently (and frequently ignores or changes FW writing) I think its safe to assume the Uncertain Origins.
   
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 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
 BrotherGecko wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
Spoiler:
 BrotherGecko wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:

Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Arachnofiend wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
 Arachnofiend wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
I personally would bet that the mono god Cults get access to cultmarines as troops, whilest red Corsairs probably are free to choose.

That wouldn't make a ton of sense, for the Scourged at least. They don't have any meaningful connection to the Thousand Sons, they wouldn't have any Rubric Marines that they weren't borrowing or stealing.

Hiring, don't forget that the sorcerers also from time to time work as mercs.

Yeah, if only there was some way to represent the minority of Rubric Marines the Scourged may have at their disposal. Maybe if they were in a different slot, so they still have to run their own guys as their core troop but can potentially take Rubric Marines in a more limited fashion in the way that the other, non-Thousand Sons legions do. If only such a thing existed.


You wound me, but in case of the Purge Plaguemarines make sense since they are a splintter of the deathguard.
Also Berzeker Chirurgeons do exist.

And the Flawless host also has a modus operandi close enough to the emperors Children.

But i get your point.

The Purge are a renegade chapter and not a splinter off the Death Guard.


Allow me to point to this: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/The_Purge



That one being a wiki and the only wiki to list The Purge as being part of the Death Guard. But GW lists them as a renegade chapter so whatever Lexicanum thinks, its wrong.


While referencing actual sources.

So far we have seen nothing to suggest them not beeing DG



FW Sources list them as Death Guard, GW Sources list them as having uncertain origins.

Since GW wrote about them most frequently (and frequently ignores or changes FW writing) I think its safe to assume the Uncertain Origins.


Frequently means nothing in terms of depth tough.

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A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.  
   
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Not Online!!! wrote:
 BrotherGecko wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
Spoiler:
 BrotherGecko wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:

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 Arachnofiend wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
 Arachnofiend wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
I personally would bet that the mono god Cults get access to cultmarines as troops, whilest red Corsairs probably are free to choose.

That wouldn't make a ton of sense, for the Scourged at least. They don't have any meaningful connection to the Thousand Sons, they wouldn't have any Rubric Marines that they weren't borrowing or stealing.

Hiring, don't forget that the sorcerers also from time to time work as mercs.

Yeah, if only there was some way to represent the minority of Rubric Marines the Scourged may have at their disposal. Maybe if they were in a different slot, so they still have to run their own guys as their core troop but can potentially take Rubric Marines in a more limited fashion in the way that the other, non-Thousand Sons legions do. If only such a thing existed.


You wound me, but in case of the Purge Plaguemarines make sense since they are a splintter of the deathguard.
Also Berzeker Chirurgeons do exist.

And the Flawless host also has a modus operandi close enough to the emperors Children.

But i get your point.

The Purge are a renegade chapter and not a splinter off the Death Guard.


Allow me to point to this: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/The_Purge



That one being a wiki and the only wiki to list The Purge as being part of the Death Guard. But GW lists them as a renegade chapter so whatever Lexicanum thinks, its wrong.


While referencing actual sources.

So far we have seen nothing to suggest them not beeing DG


GW lists them as a renegade chapter so we have seen GW list them as a renegade chapter.

They can still fight under the Death Guard and be considered a sub faction without being the Death Guard. Just like all the sub factions under the Black Legion that are not the Black Legion.

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Not Online!!! wrote:
 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
 BrotherGecko wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
Spoiler:
 BrotherGecko wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:

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 Arachnofiend wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
 Arachnofiend wrote:
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I personally would bet that the mono god Cults get access to cultmarines as troops, whilest red Corsairs probably are free to choose.

That wouldn't make a ton of sense, for the Scourged at least. They don't have any meaningful connection to the Thousand Sons, they wouldn't have any Rubric Marines that they weren't borrowing or stealing.

Hiring, don't forget that the sorcerers also from time to time work as mercs.

Yeah, if only there was some way to represent the minority of Rubric Marines the Scourged may have at their disposal. Maybe if they were in a different slot, so they still have to run their own guys as their core troop but can potentially take Rubric Marines in a more limited fashion in the way that the other, non-Thousand Sons legions do. If only such a thing existed.


You wound me, but in case of the Purge Plaguemarines make sense since they are a splintter of the deathguard.
Also Berzeker Chirurgeons do exist.

And the Flawless host also has a modus operandi close enough to the emperors Children.

But i get your point.

The Purge are a renegade chapter and not a splinter off the Death Guard.


Allow me to point to this: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/The_Purge



That one being a wiki and the only wiki to list The Purge as being part of the Death Guard. But GW lists them as a renegade chapter so whatever Lexicanum thinks, its wrong.


While referencing actual sources.

So far we have seen nothing to suggest them not beeing DG



FW Sources list them as Death Guard, GW Sources list them as having uncertain origins.

Since GW wrote about them most frequently (and frequently ignores or changes FW writing) I think its safe to assume the Uncertain Origins.


Frequently means nothing in terms of depth tough.


From what I can tell there wasnt really any depth to them in the Siege of Vraks either. Where their vehicles are also shown in the Colors of the Death Guard and not the colors of The Purge. Vraks I believe is also older than some of their listings as being of Uncertain Origin.

I think it more likely to be a FW mistake, or them listing another splinter of the Death Guard as The Purge.

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So, shadowspear is done, CSM have been unveiled. What is the purpose of this thread at this point? All I see if people arguing over nonsense.
   
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Are you sure about that? Have they said thats all for the Chaos release? Wasn't there some Chaos Sorcerer Rumor Engine or something?

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 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Are you sure about that? Have they said thats all for the Chaos release? Wasn't there some Chaos Sorcerer Rumor Engine or something?


That has me intrigued. If not, then please continue!

To add:

They could easily add some of the units that didn't get updated (Chaos Termie Lords/Sorcerers) in Killteam boxes or as Blackstone Fortress packs, right?
   
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There’s still all new character releases to be announced yet, new Dark Apostle, the World Eater execution dude etc.

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Hey is there any leaks for the chaos terminator sprue and new weapon options thst they are boxed with? Sorry if this was covered!

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 Togusa wrote:
 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
Are you sure about that? Have they said thats all for the Chaos release? Wasn't there some Chaos Sorcerer Rumor Engine or something?


That has me intrigued. If not, then please continue!

To add:

They could easily add some of the units that didn't get updated (Chaos Termie Lords/Sorcerers) in Killteam boxes or as Blackstone Fortress packs, right?


Well the traitor guard would fit the bill for cultists.

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GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.  
   
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Surely we should have pictures from the codex of any other new models by now?
   
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In vigilus isn't there a part where the deathguard attack the purge because they are killing everyone while the death guard were trying to infect people with plagues.
   
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They would be in the book, and we know whats in tue book because the reviewers have seen it.
   
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Do went have a preorder date for Lord Discordant yet? I know Havocs and Termies are this Saturday.

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I note that the latest Regimental Standard link to the Fallen page on the GW site with an entertaining bit of foreshadowing. Has that been discussed to death yet?

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I am pretty sure it wouldn't be the first time a new book had the old models in the pictures. Especially if GW didn't bother making a new picture to print in their reprinted book with added pages. So there could be a new sorcerer but GW just didn't waste the money putting its picture in the book.

 
   
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 Flinty wrote:
I note that the latest Regimental Standard link to the Fallen page on the GW site with an entertaining bit of foreshadowing. Has that been discussed to death yet?


Probably just a nod to the fact that the Fallen play a pretty big minor role in the second Vigilus book.
   
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 Flinty wrote:
I note that the latest Regimental Standard link to the Fallen page on the GW site with an entertaining bit of foreshadowing. Has that been discussed to death yet?


And I like how they recommend you get your lasgun working again by chanting in binary: "Pew! Pew!" or singing "Ode to a Flashlight".
   
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Sgt. Cortez wrote:
That's only partly true. In GWs Codizes they never were mentioned to be Death Guard, not even only Nurgle aligned. Only in FWs Siege of Vraks they were Part of the Death Guard, like almost every Nurgle warband.
I forgot how they're described in the DG Codex, they might Feature in some small blurb there,but I'm only sure about the Cleaved.


In ADB's "Black Legion", the Purge are noted as being a splinter faction of the Death Guard.

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Did anyone notice the price jump for a box of chaos space marines? It’s crazy... but we’re buying, right? Haha
   
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Could be worse. Could only be 7 of them in there.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Could be worse. Could only be 7 of them in there.


Or 8 like the original release of chaos space marines before everyone and their dog kicked off at GW and they changed it.
   
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At least the 8 man box didn't cost as much as a 10-man Tac squad. Those Deathguard on the other hand...

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