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tneva82 wrote:
Well obviously. No kit stays forever as boxed set only.

Plastic Deffkopter. Warboss. Chaos Cultists (outside of the 5 sculpts from the push-fit box). I'm sure there are a few from Warhammer as well.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Well obviously. No kit stays forever as boxed set only.

Plastic Deffkopter. Warboss. Chaos Cultists (outside of the 5 sculpts from the push-fit box). I'm sure there are a few from Warhammer as well.

In warhammer it's much worse. The entire high elf side from 8th edition did not get individual releases.

 Togusa wrote:

 aracersss wrote:
thread will prob be in remission until the missing sorcerer or second wave with obliterators

Missing sorcerer? Is that even real? I don't think it is...

What about the FAQ, today was 2 weeks and a day past launch of the book, no document as of yet.

There's a decent chance the big FAQ release is on Tuesday and it wouldn't surprise me if they do them all at once.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Well obviously. No kit stays forever as boxed set only.

Plastic Deffkopter. Warboss. Chaos Cultists (outside of the 5 sculpts from the push-fit box). I'm sure there are a few from Warhammer as well.

Don't forget the Chaos Chosen. Those would have been nice to have in a separate box set.
Back on the AoS side, we've got the khorgorath, bloodsecrator, the skull helmed stormcast, pretty much all the HQs in the old starter set, most of the island of blood set, etc. It wouldn't be the worst idea for GW to release each side of the start sets as start collecting, like they did with the stormcast and khorne armies

The Ork, Cultists, Chosen, AoS Khorne, and High Elfs... while all that was exclusive to those big boxed sets, those boxed sets were available for a while, rather indefinitely at the time. Word being GW isn't doing anymore runs of Shadowspear; if the Shadowspear miniatures weren't given separate kits this would be the shortest availability of miniatures exclusive to this size of boxed sets.

I'm pretty sure they'll repack the sprues into Start Collecting boxes soon, like they did with the Age of Sigmar 1st Edition starter models. The characters on single sprues will probably available separately, too.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Well obviously. No kit stays forever as boxed set only.

Plastic Deffkopter. Warboss. Chaos Cultists (outside of the 5 sculpts from the push-fit box). I'm sure there are a few from Warhammer as well.

Unless you count the Vedros kits.

 stahly wrote:
I'm pretty sure they'll repack the sprues into Start Collecting boxes soon, like they did with the Age of Sigmar 1st Edition starter models. The characters on single sprues will probably available separately, too.

This is something I keep pointing out with regards to Shadowspear.

This is the first time they've done a Battlebox like this where the contents are so easily broken down into two Start Collectings that let them expand the offerings from the actual Starter set or even branch out into having "Easy Build Army" sets.

Shame that these would most likely be in the upper price range of the SC sets. Should have picked the sides off ebay when they were still 85$ a piece :(

 Kanluwen wrote:

 stahly wrote:
I'm pretty sure they'll repack the sprues into Start Collecting boxes soon, like they did with the Age of Sigmar 1st Edition starter models. The characters on single sprues will probably available separately, too.

This is something I keep pointing out with regards to Shadowspear.

This is the first time they've done a Battlebox like this where the contents are so easily broken down into two Start Collectings that let them expand the offerings from the actual Starter set or even branch out into having "Easy Build Army" sets.

Remember death watch overkill. Those mono pose hybrids were lost forever. So it may not happen to protect the new multipart kits.

Ragweek wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 stahly wrote:
I'm pretty sure they'll repack the sprues into Start Collecting boxes soon, like they did with the Age of Sigmar 1st Edition starter models. The characters on single sprues will probably available separately, too.

This is something I keep pointing out with regards to Shadowspear.

This is the first time they've done a Battlebox like this where the contents are so easily broken down into two Start Collectings that let them expand the offerings from the actual Starter set or even branch out into having "Easy Build Army" sets.

Remember death watch overkill. Those mono pose hybrids were lost forever. So it may not happen to protect the new multipart kits.

Deathwatch Overkill was also on sale for quite a long time.

Shadowspear, on the other hand, launched a few weeks before the new CSM multipart kits.

tneva82 wrote:
Well obviously. No kit stays forever as boxed set only. Might take a long especially with HQ's but everything comes separately at higher price while boxed sets goes away from giving stuff cheaply.

Well I for one am still waiting on those chosen.

Ragweek wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 stahly wrote:
I'm pretty sure they'll repack the sprues into Start Collecting boxes soon, like they did with the Age of Sigmar 1st Edition starter models. The characters on single sprues will probably available separately, too.

This is something I keep pointing out with regards to Shadowspear.

This is the first time they've done a Battlebox like this where the contents are so easily broken down into two Start Collectings that let them expand the offerings from the actual Starter set or even branch out into having "Easy Build Army" sets.

Remember death watch overkill. Those mono pose hybrids were lost forever. So it may not happen to protect the new multipart kits.

which is possiable yeah but we'll likely get multipart kits all the same. it strikes me as pretty likely that the oblits won't be exact matches for the new ones TBH. the CSM squad in shadowspear, for example, isn't possiable with the CSM kit (you need to salvage the autocanon from the new Havoks)

There are too many new units in Shadowspear for them to keep them to that box. If GW wants anyone to use some of those units long term, especially Obliterators, Greater Possessed, and the Venomcrawlers, they need their own boxes.

If they don't well... You just wont see that many of them on the table because they'll be too hard to get, and then in the future they'll disappear from the rulebook because they have no models to support the rules and then everyone will be wondering why the heck they support this company.

drbored wrote:
There are too many new units in Shadowspear for them to keep them to that box. If GW wants anyone to use some of those units long term, especially Obliterators, Greater Possessed, and the Venomcrawlers, they need their own boxes.

If they don't well... You just wont see that many of them on the table because they'll be too hard to get, and then in the future they'll disappear from the rulebook because they have no models to support the rules and then everyone will be wondering why the heck they support this company.

Easy there cowboy, it's a garuntee that much of that box will get a full release. It usually takes about 5-6 months, see the chaos lord from BSF.


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Ragweek wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 stahly wrote:
I'm pretty sure they'll repack the sprues into Start Collecting boxes soon, like they did with the Age of Sigmar 1st Edition starter models. The characters on single sprues will probably available separately, too.

This is something I keep pointing out with regards to Shadowspear.

This is the first time they've done a Battlebox like this where the contents are so easily broken down into two Start Collectings that let them expand the offerings from the actual Starter set or even branch out into having "Easy Build Army" sets.

Remember death watch overkill. Those mono pose hybrids were lost forever. So it may not happen to protect the new multipart kits.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/deathwatch-kill-team-cassius-2016

Uh...how exactly were they lost forever?

 Togusa wrote:

drbored wrote:
There are too many new units in Shadowspear for them to keep them to that box. If GW wants anyone to use some of those units long term, especially Obliterators, Greater Possessed, and the Venomcrawlers, they need their own boxes.

If they don't well... You just wont see that many of them on the table because they'll be too hard to get, and then in the future they'll disappear from the rulebook because they have no models to support the rules and then everyone will be wondering why the heck they support this company.

Easy there cowboy, it's a garuntee that much of that box will get a full release. It usually takes about 5-6 months, see the chaos lord from BSF.


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Ragweek wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 stahly wrote:
I'm pretty sure they'll repack the sprues into Start Collecting boxes soon, like they did with the Age of Sigmar 1st Edition starter models. The characters on single sprues will probably available separately, too.

This is something I keep pointing out with regards to Shadowspear.

This is the first time they've done a Battlebox like this where the contents are so easily broken down into two Start Collectings that let them expand the offerings from the actual Starter set or even branch out into having "Easy Build Army" sets.

Remember death watch overkill. Those mono pose hybrids were lost forever. So it may not happen to protect the new multipart kits.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/deathwatch-kill-team-cassius-2016

Uh...how exactly were they lost forever?

You might want to read what he actually wrote?

 Togusa wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Remember death watch overkill. Those mono pose hybrids were lost forever. So it may not happen to protect the new multipart kits.

Uh...how exactly were they lost forever?

None of those space marines pictured are mono-pose Hybrids.....

 rayphoton wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Remember death watch overkill. Those mono pose hybrids were lost forever. So it may not happen to protect the new multipart kits.

Uh...how exactly were they lost forever?

None of those space marines pictured are mono-pose Hybrids.....

sure and generally speaking monopose troops in a box tend to get replaced by the multipack stuff take Chaso Marines, the CSM sculpts in shadowspear are unique to Shadowspear,

BrianDavion wrote:
sure and generally speaking monopose troops in a box tend to get replaced by the multipack stuff take Chaso Marines, the CSM sculpts in shadowspear are unique to Shadowspear

Funnily enough, genestealers from Overkill (first new sculpt of them in 15 years, unless we count obscure/limited releases like Space Hulk ones) were replaced by nothing and all GSC army boxes since had ancient ones. They just look kind of sad next to new Patriarch and half-stealer hybrids...

 Irbis wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
sure and generally speaking monopose troops in a box tend to get replaced by the multipack stuff take Chaso Marines, the CSM sculpts in shadowspear are unique to Shadowspear

Funnily enough, genestealers from Overkill (first new sculpt of them in 15 years, unless we count obscure/limited releases like Space Hulk ones) were replaced by nothing and all GSC army boxes since had ancient ones. They just look kind of sad next to new Patriarch and half-stealer hybrids...

especially as Cult Genestealers are aesthetically different than Tyranid Genestealers (ribbed flesh pockets versus smooth carapace)

I'm unwilling to make a new thread for this, so: Is the old version of Codex: CSM worth 12.50€? I'm asking because I found the flowchart on the community site not that helpful and my local toy store has it marked down to sell the new one. Since you'd need Vigilus Ablaze and a FAQ for Obliterator points at least I might get the old one to save some money...after all I walked out with a Khârn model marked down to 17€ for whatever reason instead of just the baby toy I wanted

Last time they had the Berzerkers marked down, which makes more sense with a potential WE dex with updated 'zerkers, but, hey, I'm not complaining about 12€ off this bad dude. Sales for the Sales God!

 rayphoton wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Remember death watch overkill. Those mono pose hybrids were lost forever. So it may not happen to protect the new multipart kits.

Uh...how exactly were they lost forever?

None of those space marines pictured are mono-pose Hybrids.....

I misread. Didn't Hybrids still come out as a kit though?