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I agree that options for all-helemted and all-bare would be great. It would be a very tough choice.

I'd love a variety of head options, helmets, bobs, crews, pixieish, all included. I like the heads GW sampled a few months ago.

Give me more of these magnificent models.

This right here is the epitome of 40K. Skulls, Religion, Zeal, Ornate Armour.

Please GW, just give me a giant Cathedral Tank and Seraphim with giant swords and I might forgive you for killing Warhammer Fantasy...might...

 Manchu wrote:
- Sisters shouldn’t have “boob armor”
- Sisters shouldn’t have bobs
- Sisters shouldn’t have corsets
- Sisters shouldn’t have “combat heels” (even though they don’t)

They should have bob armour, combat corsets, and boob heels!!!

Frankly I don't understand the calls to drastically change the way Sisters look. Honestly, it's like saying "Regular Space Marines shouldn't have backpacks and giant pauldrons!"** or "Tyranids should only have 4 limbs and wear armour!". If you're going to utterly change the aesthetic of something, why not just create something new rather than destroying what already exists.

I said in my first reaction to the new Sister is that the best part about her is the fact that she looks like a Sister. Updating the range without losing the core aesthetic of the entire faction is a big deal, and from what little GW have shown so far they are absolutely nailing it.

 Galas wrote:
... I would prefer if they offer us the same choice as with Primaris marines...

Never seen anyone associate options/choice with Primaris Marines, but I guess there's a first time for everything.

**"But Scouts!" I said regular Marines for a reason.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Frankly I don't understand the calls to drastically change the way Sisters look.

It makes sense, of course, if the one calling for it does not like them.

Updating the range without losing the core aesthetic of the entire faction is a big deal, and from what little GW have shown so far they are absolutely nailing it.

Yes, and we can only hope that they are dribbling it out this way for some reason OTHER THAN slowly earning trust before showing us something quite bad.

I bought both Sisters (2nd edition) and Dark Eldar (3rd edition) pretty much the days they were released. I've been a fan of both since they appeared, Sisters more so.

Dark Eldar needed an overhaul. They were okay at the time of release but the 3rd edition models are no where near today's standards in proportion or clarity. I've made recent conversions combining pieces from both incarnations of DE.

Sororitas, to this day, still look good. They're bobble headed of course, as was the case for all GW figures for many years, but they still hold up in overall quality. Exceptions are later stuff like the Dialogus (which doesn't have a Sororitas symbol and was originally just an Inquisition Acolyte) and Repentia Mistress. The most recent canoness doesn't have great proportions either tbh. The earlier Jes Goodwin sculpts have stood the test of time, as have his sculpts across many factions.

I predict the stuff getting the overhaul treatment are the later stuff- Arco-flagellants, Penitent engines, Repentia, etc. Original Sororitas designs are solid and iconic and are likely going to stay pretty similar, just as the Eldar have for decades.

Most sisters fans just want plastic versions of old favorites as far as I can tell. I for one am sick of trying to convert metal.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Frankly I don't understand the calls to drastically change the way Sisters look.

Although I would normally advocate for sensible female armour*, Sororitas are a rare case where this kind of armour design makes some sense.

After all, their role as the Ecclesiarchy's armed forces is a bald-faced attempt to get away with gratuitously exploiting the loophole of not being able to have "men under arms"; in that context, deliberately emphasising that their forces are women is about as reasonable an argument as you can ever really have for such a thing. (And let's be honest, we can't really argue that sensible armour design is a constant in the 41st millennium. "Yes, I will go into battle in shiny gold armour, because I want to make it as easy as possible for the enemy to know where I am.")

* And I have been known to put stupid amounts of time and effort into that...

Ridiculous and unpractical armor makes sense for all factions in 40K. This is a setting where normal men choose to run across open battlefields with nothing but swords and pistols.

Personal tastes abound, but as far as what 40K "is about", so to speak, practicality is the last thing on any factions' mind. Tau used to be the closest we had to a sensible aesthetic, and then they threw 50 big, dumb mechas at it.

 Galas wrote:
How is the black hairstyle the classic when Sisters have been white-haired in like 90% of their depictions?

It's "classic" because the models were depicted with black hair when the army was introduced. The white hair only came later (presumably to make the heads stand out more from the armour). Personally I like the haircut. And the heads on the metal models; I never undserstood what people didn't like about them.

Agreed. All my line-Sisters will be bobheads, if the sprues permit. Only Celestians get helmets, having sufficiently proven their faith in the Emperor and His favour of them by surviving for so long without one

 Manchu wrote:
Yes, and we can only hope that they are dribbling it out this way for some reason OTHER THAN slowly earning trust before showing us something quite bad.

We already know the classic armour is here to stay. Realistically, what could GW even mess up at this point, design wise?

Most obviously, Repentia. But there could also be some new units.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:

 Galas wrote:
How is the black hairstyle the classic when Sisters have been white-haired in like 90% of their depictions?

It's "classic" because the models were depicted with black hair when the army was introduced. The white hair only came later (presumably to make the heads stand out more from the armour). Personally I like the haircut. And the heads on the metal models; I never undserstood what people didn't like about them.

Well, if they had classic bobs their hairstyle would be timeless. Unfortunately they all have turned under bobs which look horribly dated. Basically they all look my mum did in the seventies

 Manchu wrote:
Most obviously, Repentia. But there could also be some new units.

yeah look at Centurions - OMG or Grey Night Baby carriers.....

On the other hand -the glory that is the new GSC range gives us hope.

Wonder when we get the first bulletin

I’m very excited to see the updated Penitent Engine. Always liked that model.

 ImAGeek wrote:
I’m very excited to see the updated Penitent Engine. Always liked that model.

Good call

 Manchu wrote:
Most obviously, Repentia. But there could also be some new units.

Unlike the normal sisters I don't think Repentia have anything worthwile modelwise that should be any kind of benchmark or standard of how well GW has redo the Sisters miniature line. (With the exception of the Eviscerator, Eviscerators are the coolest weapon in all of 40k alongside Lighting Claws and we need more of those)

But of course this comes down to personal tastes, and I have make clear my own opinion about how the new Repentia should look.

 Mr Morden wrote:


yeah look at Centurions - OMG or Grey Night Baby carriers...

While I can understand the fear of the 'what if it's a Centurion', it does feel like both of those were the poster children of bean counter design, something GW seemingly left behind in the past couple years.

 Manchu wrote:
Most obviously, Repentia. But there could also be some new units.

I think GW should lean in on the fetish aspects, go really heavily on the Penitent side of the army. Go with the naked Repentia per the WH cover. Do similar with the Pengine, but go bigger, and have more variants. Similar with Arco-Flagellants and other mind-wipe / Clan Moulder-esque stuff, but with the advantage of starting with naked women vs giant rats.

Also, Frateris Militia. In plastic. 40k Empire Flagellants.

People are going to be might upset if they return to the classic Repentia design of dual wielding bolt pistols.

Im hoping the Repentia are completely redesigned as both concepts and models.

So... you just want them removed from the game?

 ghosty wrote:
People are going to be might upset if they return to the classic Repentia design of dual wielding bolt pistols.

That would be fun - as a alt or a character.

 MarcoSkoll wrote:
After all, their role as the Ecclesiarchy's armed forces is a bald-faced attempt to get away with gratuitously exploiting the loophole of not being able to have "men under arms"; in that context, deliberately emphasising that their forces are women is about as reasonable an argument as you can ever really have for such a thing.

Well I'll have to disagree here. In the original, more detailed fluff about the Trial of Sebastian Thor and the reformation of the Ecclesiarchy, it seems like the wording of this rule is more of a way to save face by the other Imperial officials trying to coerce Sebastian Thor into becoming Ecclesiarch when Thor pressure them into accepting keeping the Sororitas than anything else. And I like this version better, I love the trial!

Also your model look really awesome!!!


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 Manchu wrote:
People who have told us stuff like:

- Sisters shouldn’t have “boob armor”
- Sisters shouldn’t have bobs
- Sisters shouldn’t have corsets
- Sisters shouldn’t have “combat heels” (even though they don’t)

etc.

I would be fine with sisters losing the boob armor.
I hope the new heads will give option for full bobs, other haircut, and full helmet.
Some Sisters model don't have corset already (but I think they aren't really good though)
I want Sisters to stay without combat heels.
I… might be one of those people ^^'.

 jake wrote:
I like the helmets, but I vastly prefer sisters without them. In my opinion the classic black hairstyle is THE defining visual element of the Sisters of Battle. Having a few helmets, or helmets on specific units is cool, but to me they aren't sisters unless the majority of the models have that hairstyle.

As I wrote above, I hope we get enough head to get plenty of choice on the matter!

 Manchu wrote:
Yes, and we can only hope that they are dribbling it out this way for some reason OTHER THAN slowly earning trust before showing us something quite bad.

Come on, don't be paranoid. When they finally release some model that looks horrible, it will be in a completely oblivious manner rather than a calculated one .

 His Master's Voice wrote:
So... you just want them removed from the game?

To be honest that ended up working very well with Dark Eldar Mandrakes.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I would be fine with sisters losing the boob armor.
I hope the new heads will give option for full bobs, other haircut, and full helmet.
Some Sisters model don't have corset already (but I think they aren't really good though)
I want Sisters to stay without combat heels.

Sounds about right.

I am a bit bothered by the attitude towards those who do want something changed though. If someone walked into a SW thread and said 'I do like SW, but I wish they dialed down on the wolfiness a bit' they wouldn't be told 'yeah well clearly you don't like space wolves as they are, and if you changed them in any way they would not be space wolves, so there is your problem'. But that seems to be a common attitude in SoB threads.

Maybe they should do it the Runescape way - leave the originals untouched for the old fans and keep the designs moving for those who prefer that.

There is certainly a variety of head options forthcoming, or at least in the concept art phase:

 Ashiraya wrote:
I am a bit bothered by the attitude towards those who do want something changed though. If someone walked into a SW thread and said 'I do like SW, but I wish they dialed down on the wolfiness a bit' they wouldn't be told 'yeah well clearly you don't like space wolves as they are, and if you changed them in any way they would not be space wolves, so there is your problem'. But that seems to be a common attitude in SoB threads.

Anyone who actually minds the overt Viking/wolf motif use can simply paint some generic Marines grey and call them Space Wolves. The discussion over 'proper' SoB design revolves around elements that cannot be fixed/undone by a lick of paint.

Hence the vehemence.

 Ashiraya wrote:
Maybe they should do it the Runescape way - leave the originals untouched for the old fans and keep the designs moving for those who prefer that.

I'm sure that would never breed any sort of resentment.

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Anyone who actually minds the overt Viking/wolf motif use can simply paint some generic Marines grey and call them Space Wolves

In this particular comparison, it was wolfiness half specifically (the viking half rarely seems to be complained about in comparison). The two halves together are what makes them SW.

SoB are similar - they are a collection of different design aspects, rather than only a single one.

Also those heads look really good.

Wait, those heads are coming from Games Workshop? Oh. Oh...

They look bad. Like, really, really bad. The proportions are both shallow in places, and exaggerated in others. For one the noses are just awful. Neither do they look particularly feminine. And overall there isn't a great deal of detail, instead going for a chunkier approach which I guess is to fit in with some aesthetic, but which is the opposite of what some of their competitors have been doing with their own figures.

And I say all of this, as they must know that Statuesque Miniatures exists. That company will certainly be seeing a bump in sales for their products if Games Workshop are putting out this sort of quality. :/