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Did someone already post that ? Likely battle sanctum, definitely not terrain piece!
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Why put a church on tracks if you can make it antigrav, which allows you to put tons of weapons on the bottom of it!!!

I saw the new article and I am all aquiver with anticipation of the complete release. Glorious is the word I would use. I can’t wait to see more. I worry that I will lack the funds though as I remake my entire army.

Yikes... so much to unpack. Big reveals overnight, and still not all the reveals, which is even more impressive.

So, from the top (prepare for endless hate and complaining ERJAK!!!)...

1. New Sisters kit.
Looks ace. Love the icon thingy. The Combi-Flamer looks rad. I really like the stripped down Heavy Flamer. That's a wonderful design choice there. Raised face-plate is a cool little extra, as is the Sister pulling the pin with her mouth (nice call-back to the metal mini).

Also this bit:

What’s more, this set also builds you Dominions, forward-scouting vehicle killers and special-weapon wielders, as well as Celestians, elite bodyguards who’ll carve up anyone who dares attack your Canonesses. These units are marked by their own special components.

Phew! I was worried about that.

Personally I can't really spot the difference (Celestians have scopes... I guess?), but I'm just happy that they're there.

2. New Champions.
I've said before that the Hospitaller's base is too big and cluttered. Should'a just kept her on a regular base without the needless dying Sister. It makes the mini too specific, so that every Hospitaller has the same dying sister on their base all the time. Plus it'll probably jack up the price of that minis and, worse, force it into a box rather than a clam-pack release (which means even more $$$). The actual Hospitaller though is great. The base is the issue.

That Dialogus though. Wow. That mini is amazing, and given its predecessor, this is quite the improvement (even if I kinda like the original mini... but not for a Sisters army). Hover lectern is a nice touch.

The Imagifier is just awesome. Works so well the pose and the hood.

3. New Canoness
Colour me shocked. Truly shocked. An HQ miniature with lots of different weapon options. Well done GW. We're very proud of you. However...

[cynic mode]I think they're only doing this as they won't want to invalidate all the existing Canoness minis that do have lots of weapon options. This will, sadly, not be the trend with HQ minis going forward[/cynic mode]

Even a variety of heads (ranging from helmeted to awful) and backpack icons, and weapons and whatnot. No hand-flamer, which is a little odd given the holy trinity, but still. Good stuff.

4. Junith Eruita
Awkward name aside, this is a wonderful new concept for SoBs. I do hope that the mini can be removed from the pulpit as I've love to use that with some of my Ecclesiarchy minis (like Redemptor Kyrinov). Also it's more "weaponised religion" than the Dark Angels ever managed.

And then there's the final, and in my mind, most important part of this reveal:

And that’s just a sample of what’s on the way for Sisters of Battle – we haven’t even BEGUN to look at Retributors, Zephyrim, the Battle Sanctum, or the other datasheets in the codex yet…

... we haven’t even BEGUN to look at Retributors, Zephyrim, the Battle Sanctum, or the other datasheets...

... Retributors, Zephyrim, the Battle Sanctum...

... Battle Sanctum...

Battle whatnow?

Always up for new terrain. x1000

Throwing a wager that the battle sanctum is a freaking plane.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:


Personally I can't really spot the difference (Celestians have scopes... I guess?), but I'm just happy that they're there.

Celestines have a fancier helmet. Its just that the one they showed has her visor up.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Celestines have a fancier helmet. Its just that the one they showed has her visor up.

Yep, it has a forehead fleur. Those would be good for helmeted superiors as well.

I guess that's what they're talking about when they say that the kit comes with scads of different heads.

Now I wonder if the heads fit with Enforcers... or Genestealer Cult minis. Or Skitarii.

Or even better, Cawdor. Imagine some Cawdor gang leader wearing an ancient battered SoB helmet into battle as some sort of "ancient holy relic".

I just noticed that they still have the sister pulling the pin from the grenade with her teeth.

She’s always been my favorite.

Oh, a flying church!
This release looks more and more interesting!

Ok. That combi-stake crossbow is making me consider buying another Canoness...

Dark Angel Darkshroud: behold the wrath of the Emperor in this flying church...
SOB: Hold my beer.

I was on the fence with this release....but afetr a house refinance (saving $500/month) plus no mortgage payment next month, I believe I have been given a sign.

Someone on another forum pointed out to me that not only does the Canoness have multiple weapon, helmet and back-icon-thingy options... but there are two difference chest pieces there!

So many options on an HQ character. This is almost too much to handle. GW you spoil us!

Look like sculptor put some effort into his work and got the greenlight from GW. Not like he'd get extra pay for that.

xttz wrote:There's a battle sister with a flamethrower and shaved head. Did GW just make a Ripley model?

Yes and yes!!

Pulpit is the coolest thing since....ever.

Dialogus and Imagifier look great. Canoness has an appropriate options and will make for some interesting conversions.

I'm diggin the poses of the multipart kits.

what other goodies are yet to be revealed.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Someone on another forum pointed out to me that not only does the Canoness have multiple weapon, helmet and back-icon-thingy options... but there are two difference chest pieces there!

So many options on an HQ character. This is almost too much to handle. GW you spoil us!

It will probably be 40-50 bucks though, for a basic hq model.

 JohnnyHell wrote:

So you’d have preferred they didn’t tell us it was limited or when to pre-order? Odd. Because scalpers gonna scalp, and at least you now have a heads-up. The limited edition strategy stops people going “that looks cool - I’ll buy it next summer”... Again, sucks if you don’t get one but you can log on and preorder just like anyone else so <shrug>.

No, I'd prefer if they had stated up-front that it was going to be a limited item rather than slow-rolling and building hype for it over many weeks and then at the last moment before pre-orders going "oh by the way this is a limited release".
Also providing the exact time of the pre-order for all regions is an extra step further in the direction of aiding scalpers - scalpers these days use bots oftentimes and having precise details like that basically guarantees as few "genuine" customers as possible will be able to get their hands on one.

I'm fine with limited release items existing because I can essentially ignore them, since there's basically no chance in hell I'll get my hands on one. I might pine for them, sure, but I won't really entertain the notion that I will or did have a reasonable shot at getting one, so it's no big deal. But spending all this time and energy building up hype about a product with no indication that it's going to be limited until the eleventh hour is another matter entirely.

I think i'm missing something here.

I just called my store and said to order me a copy. Done.

Where are the issues with scalpers? If you want a copy just pre order one at a store.

Well there's been scuttlebutt going around that stores are limited in terms of how many copies they're getting/will be able to order.

It's hearsay at this point, of course, and we might not know the truth 'til the day the pre-orders go up. If that is true, though, asking your store to order you a copy might not be sufficient if they get more requests than copies of the product allocated to them.

Additionally, not everyone has a "local store". North America is a big place with tons of communities that have little/no support as far as anything like an LGS is concerned.

Again this is all the sort of thing that would be alleviated by a clear indication of a product's status as a limited item or not at the time it's announced. There's being coy about specifics and then there's being misleading about information relevant to consumers. The Bandai action figure, for instance, was revealed to be a limited product once we started learning anything about it other than its existence.

The general muttering that I've heard is that the higher ups believe they have 'made enough' to make everyone happy.

Now, the only thing they made 'enough' of was Blood of the Phoenix, which... yeah. They made 'enough' of that.

So, color me doubtful. Still, I'll be waiting outside my local GW for 4 hours waiting for them to open so I can be one of the first in line. Not gunna let this opportunity slip by me.

It's possible that it'll go the way of Shadowspear, where it seemed like a limited release at first, and for a while it was sold out, but they'll push out more to satisfy the ravenous demand and may even keep selling it afterwards. If they can make so much use out of the Shadowspear minis, to the point of making start collecting boxes out of them, I'm sure they could do the same with this sisters release. The extra bits, like the codex, dice, and tactics cards may be dropped in later publishing, but I'd be surprised if the minis were 'limited edition'. From everything I've heard, the box isn't LIMITED edition but SPECIAL edition, and that's a crucial difference when it comes to the release of certain products. Yes, the SPECIAL edition will likely disappear, but the models may be made available in another way.

Everything that they've shown off has been stunning. Also, I wouldn't mind the Cannoness being more expensive, since the main benefit of having all those weapon options is, of course, customization, but also... USING THOSE WEAPONS ON OTHER UNITS!!! Being able to customize cannonesses and other squad leaders with different poses of swords and pistols is great, and was for a long time the great benefit of multiple options in a single character. Seeing that come back for the first time in YEARS makes me very, very happy.

The ONLY thing that I'm upset about.. is that the war pulpit is a named character. I'd have much preferred that it had been a generic unit that any faction could take, rather than a specific order. Ah well, it could be that the order is the best one to take anyway, and it's not going to stop me from converting it and using it as something else (like making a special command rhino for my leader to ride in, for example)

And finally, if I had to fathom a guess to what a 'battle sanctum' is, I'd guess a piece of terrain, much like the chaos marines and genestealer cult got. Some imposing piece of terrain with a lot of decoration that likely drops down from orbit or is built very quickly or something.

JohnnyHell wrote:There’ll be plenty of Sororitas to come by the looks of it so no one is truly gonna miss out. Sucks if you don’t get a box, but... no one dies?

Don't you see how that's the problem? All those horrible local heretics will live, will thrive, if the cleansing flames and firepower of a Sororitas host remain absent. Can't have that now, can we?

Samko wrote:The floating pulprit is great, I just dislike the head, which I will replace with the cathedral-helmet from the exorcist for maximum over-the-topness. ^^

Oh, I like your thinking. That could well be the one context that hat would work in. Was certainly thinking of doing some sort of headswap and modifying the pulpit itself a little - don't care she is some named character, with some modifications and a different name she will be whoever leads your own army. Leave enough of the original figure in place and there will be no confusion or issues - it's quite a recognizable piece after all! Assuming there isn't the option for an unnamed build to begin with.

The main reason why i WANT this box is for that art on the codex.

I love everything except the standard bearers. They're nicely detailed, but the standards themselves are stupidly large... Even with power armor, carrying around a chunk of marble the size of your own body stuck on the end of a stick seems impractical even by 40k standards.

The flying pulpit is all sorts of awesome, though. I'm picturing a boat-shaped skimmer made up of Grimnar's sleigh for the front and the pulpit for the stern...

 insaniak wrote:
I love everything except the standard bearers. They're nicely detailed, but the standards themselves are stupidly large... Even with power armor, carrying around a chunk of marble the size of your own body stuck on the end of a stick seems impractical even by 40k standards.

The flying pulpit is all sorts of awesome, though. I'm picturing a boat-shaped skimmer made up of Grimnar's sleigh for the front and the pulpit for the stern...

The pulpit looks as dumb as the Space Wolf Santa. No one is going to play thing thing on the table.

I wish GW would stop wasting precious design space on ugly looking models that never see the light of day....

 Togusa wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
I love everything except the standard bearers. They're nicely detailed, but the standards themselves are stupidly large... Even with power armor, carrying around a chunk of marble the size of your own body stuck on the end of a stick seems impractical even by 40k standards.

The flying pulpit is all sorts of awesome, though. I'm picturing a boat-shaped skimmer made up of Grimnar's sleigh for the front and the pulpit for the stern...

The pulpit looks as dumb as the Space Wolf Santa. No one is going to play thing thing on the table.

I wish GW would stop wasting precious design space on ugly looking models that never see the light of day....

The vast majority of people who have seen the pulpit and have commented have said they love it across 2 forums and 4 major 40k news sites comment sections as well as hundreds of comments across dozens of facebook pages, though I would personally still think it was great regardless. It will see plenty of play, especially if the rules are good, which is not totally unlikely.

 Togusa wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
I love everything except the standard bearers. They're nicely detailed, but the standards themselves are stupidly large... Even with power armor, carrying around a chunk of marble the size of your own body stuck on the end of a stick seems impractical even by 40k standards.

The flying pulpit is all sorts of awesome, though. I'm picturing a boat-shaped skimmer made up of Grimnar's sleigh for the front and the pulpit for the stern...

The pulpit looks as dumb as the Space Wolf Santa. No one is going to play thing thing on the table.

I wish GW would stop wasting precious design space on ugly looking models that never see the light of day....

You shall burn for this statement ! I can't wait to run a list with both Grimnars sweet wolf ride and the floating pulpit, and let all the haters burn in the flames of their rage !

 Thargrim wrote:
It will probably be 40-50 bucks though, for a basic hq model.

As much as we (justifiably) complain about the price, I think that going back to multi-part/multi-option HQs will only do the game a world of good. So I'll take higher price for more options any day.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:
It will probably be 40-50 bucks though, for a basic hq model.

As much as we (justifiably) complain about the price, I think that going back to multi-part/multi-option HQs will only do the game a world of good. So I'll take higher price for more options any day.

True, but when you have to decide between a basic HQ or a brand new PS4 game then things start to feel a bit weird IMO. Maybe i'll be wrong though, and the sprue will be really compact and cleverly arranged and it won't cost much more than a primaris captain/lieutenant. Most of the extra bits just go in a bits bag for me, this is why duel kits like the skitarii infiltrators bugged me, lots of leftovers that I just don't need.

 Thargrim wrote:
True, but when you have to decide between a basic HQ or a brand new PS4 game then things start to feel a bit weird IMO. Maybe i'll be wrong though, and the sprue will be really compact and cleverly arranged and it won't cost much more than a primaris captain/lieutenant. Most of the extra bits just go in a bits bag for me, this is why duel kits like the skitarii infiltrators bugged me, lots of leftovers that I just don't need.

I live in Oz. That's already a consideration I have to make.

I understand your point about dual kits though. Them costing more but still only giving you one unit is a major issue (look at the price of Fire Warriors for example, or triple kits like Deathwing Termies). But for single HQs? I don't have an issue with that. I mean one of my fav kits was the Marine Force Commander kit that had all sorts of options (very primitive by today's standards). The bits that were left-over on him went to other Marine kits. It'd be great if leftover bits on the Canoness worked just as well with the various squad leaders in regular SoB squads.

 insaniak wrote:
I love everything except the standard bearers. They're nicely detailed, but the standards themselves are stupidly large... Even with power armor, carrying around a chunk of marble the size of your own body stuck on the end of a stick seems impractical even by 40k standards.

What if the other side of it shows some sort exhausts or grav plates?

 Thargrim wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:
It will probably be 40-50 bucks though, for a basic hq model.

As much as we (justifiably) complain about the price, I think that going back to multi-part/multi-option HQs will only do the game a world of good. So I'll take higher price for more options any day.

True, but when you have to decide between a basic HQ or a brand new PS4 game then things start to feel a bit weird IMO. Maybe i'll be wrong though, and the sprue will be really compact and cleverly arranged and it won't cost much more than a primaris captain/lieutenant. Most of the extra bits just go in a bits bag for me, this is why duel kits like the skitarii infiltrators bugged me, lots of leftovers that I just don't need.

I think we already see the writing on the wall with the costs, the floating tower will end up like 90$$ USD. The Sisters box will be at least the same cost as Primaris Marines troop boxes, the exorcist dual kit will be same price as the impulsor marine tank, the HQs will be around 40$ USD. Just look to the marine line for like models to guess on price of these releases.

 Togusa wrote:

 insaniak wrote:
I love everything except the standard bearers. They're nicely detailed, but the standards themselves are stupidly large... Even with power armor, carrying around a chunk of marble the size of your own body stuck on the end of a stick seems impractical even by 40k standards.

The flying pulpit is all sorts of awesome, though. I'm picturing a boat-shaped skimmer made up of Grimnar's sleigh for the front and the pulpit for the stern...

The pulpit looks as dumb as the Space Wolf Santa. No one is going to play thing thing on the table.

I wish GW would stop wasting precious design space on ugly looking models that never see the light of day....

Care to make a bet over that statement?


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AngryAngel80 wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:
It will probably be 40-50 bucks though, for a basic hq model.

As much as we (justifiably) complain about the price, I think that going back to multi-part/multi-option HQs will only do the game a world of good. So I'll take higher price for more options any day.

True, but when you have to decide between a basic HQ or a brand new PS4 game then things start to feel a bit weird IMO. Maybe i'll be wrong though, and the sprue will be really compact and cleverly arranged and it won't cost much more than a primaris captain/lieutenant. Most of the extra bits just go in a bits bag for me, this is why duel kits like the skitarii infiltrators bugged me, lots of leftovers that I just don't need.

I think we already see the writing on the wall with the costs, the floating tower will end up like 90$$ USD. The Sisters box will be at least the same cost as Primaris Marines troop boxes, the exorcist dual kit will be same price as the impulsor marine tank, the HQs will be around 40$ USD. Just look to the marine line for like models to guess on price of these releases.

With GW upping cost of new releases we'll be lucky if they are marine level prices.