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craggy wrote: Bit miffed the Sisters Kill Team rules are going to be in the Annual when at least the basic units for every other army were in the core book. I'd have been less disappointed with a WD article with them, but would say they should have been in the amry box at least if they weren't going to be a free pdf.
If they had been in WD it would have been real hard for any future KT SOB player.
Fair point.
Glad I bought the issue that had the daemons list. How will future chaos daemons, or kroot players manage?
Presumably by buying this book?
but...I already bought those? I'm confused, is the annual an advertisement not to buy WD for rules?
craggy wrote: but...I already bought those? I'm confused, is the annual an advertisement not to buy WD for rules?
You've had (and have presumably been playing and using) them since the issue came out. That's what you bought - the time between then and the release of the book, plus ensuring that you'd have them if this book never existed. Sure, now you know that you could have waited, but getting them months before for the cost of a White Dwarf doesn't seem like too bad a deal.
The future Chaos Daemon or Kroot players you mentioned can get the rules in the book. If you've already got all the rules you want from WD, then you're already set (unless of course they made changes or additions, in which case that's what you're paying for when you buy the book )
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Because the annual totally contains the entire content of a year's White Dwarf.......
Anyhow, with delivery/shipping day approaching it's going to be interesting to see if GW delivers all these SoB sets and what spare stock is around come Friday.
craggy wrote: Bit miffed the Sisters Kill Team rules are going to be in the Annual when at least the basic units for every other army were in the core book. I'd have been less disappointed with a WD article with them, but would say they should have been in the amry box at least if they weren't going to be a free pdf.
If they had been in WD it would have been real hard for any future KT SOB player.
Fair point.
Glad I bought the issue that had the daemons list. How will future chaos daemons, or kroot players manage?
Presumably by buying this book?
but...I already bought those? I'm confused, is the annual an advertisement not to buy WD for rules?
People complain that WD doesn't have rules content.
GW puts rules content in WD, people complain that they can't get hold of the rules content that was in old WDs GW releases compilations of the rules articles from WD, people complain that GW is releasing content that's already been in WD.
GW stops putting rules content in WD... repeat...
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craggy wrote: Bit miffed the Sisters Kill Team rules are going to be in the Annual when at least the basic units for every other army were in the core book. I'd have been less disappointed with a WD article with them, but would say they should have been in the amry box at least if they weren't going to be a free pdf.
If they had been in WD it would have been real hard for any future KT SOB player.
Fair point.
Glad I bought the issue that had the daemons list. How will future chaos daemons, or kroot players manage?
Presumably by buying this book?
but...I already bought those? I'm confused, is the annual an advertisement not to buy WD for rules?
People complain that WD doesn't have rules content.
GW puts rules content in WD, people complain that they can't get hold of the rules content that was in old WDs GW releases compilations of the rules articles from WD, people complain that GW is releasing content that's already been in WD.
GW stops putting rules content in WD... repeat...
Have you yet to learn that dakka is infested with haters that will complain on ANYTHING GW does, even (and especially) if it is the very same thing they were complaining that wasn't does a month ago.
can neither confirm nor deny I lost track of what I've got right now.
but...I already bought those? I'm confused, is the annual an advertisement not to buy WD for rules?
You buy WD for rules if you want the rules NOW(and if you don't want every single rule including factions you don't play). But if rules were only in WD then there would be very small period you could even get the rules and after that bye bye. You know what would be end result in that? All the WD rules would be optional "not recommended for matched play" aka out of regular games. Better?
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craggy wrote: Bit miffed the Sisters Kill Team rules are going to be in the Annual when at least the basic units for every other army were in the core book. I'd have been less disappointed with a WD article with them, but would say they should have been in the amry box at least if they weren't going to be a free pdf.
If they had been in WD it would have been real hard for any future KT SOB player.
Fair point.
Glad I bought the issue that had the daemons list. How will future chaos daemons, or kroot players manage?
Aren't digital downloads available? Not perfect for everyone but hey it's 2019, we can handle it.
craggy wrote: Bit miffed the Sisters Kill Team rules are going to be in the Annual when at least the basic units for every other army were in the core book. I'd have been less disappointed with a WD article with them, but would say they should have been in the amry box at least if they weren't going to be a free pdf.
If they had been in WD it would have been real hard for any future KT SOB player.
Fair point.
Glad I bought the issue that had the daemons list. How will future chaos daemons, or kroot players manage?
Aren't digital downloads available? Not perfect for everyone but hey it's 2019, we can handle it.
2019? Hell, we're knocking on the back door of 2020.
craggy wrote: Bit miffed the Sisters Kill Team rules are going to be in the Annual when at least the basic units for every other army were in the core book. I'd have been less disappointed with a WD article with them, but would say they should have been in the amry box at least if they weren't going to be a free pdf.
If they had been in WD it would have been real hard for any future KT SOB player.
Fair point.
Glad I bought the issue that had the daemons list. How will future chaos daemons, or kroot players manage?
Presumably by buying this book?
but...I already bought those? I'm confused, is the annual an advertisement not to buy WD for rules?
People complain that WD doesn't have rules content.
GW puts rules content in WD, people complain that they can't get hold of the rules content that was in old WDs GW releases compilations of the rules articles from WD, people complain that GW is releasing content that's already been in WD.
GW stops putting rules content in WD... repeat...
To clarify: I'm fine with them putting rules in WD, and perfectly ok with them putting those rules in a compilation at the end of the year. I'm not particularly keen on a compilation of those rules being released with another faction's rules being exclusive to that compilation, having to pay £15? £20? for 3-4 pages of stuff for rules for a new army they're promoting the heck out of.
So here's something a little odd that I noticed. Someone on FB is selling a Sisters box that they have, and posted pics of the front, immediate inside (ie. what you see when you take the top off) and the rear of the box.
Check this out:
Spoiler:
D'ya notice that? The Canoness isn't this one. Is that not odd?
Now the nice lady on Facebook took the time to photo the Canoness in the box, and it is the one we were expecting. Still, a weird error to see.
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Didn't the Apocalypse Eldar box earlier this year show the wrong Spiritseer? I seem to remember something to that effect.
I guess these things just happen occasionally. Might be as benign as the the photographer's assistant fetching the wrong Canoness from the cabinet out of unfamiliarity with the new range, and the digital artist composing the shopped array of models below the photo not knowing better and using the matching photo of the wrong Canoness to hammer the error home.
Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone?
Lemondish wrote: The one in the army box is a monopose one option sculpt. Beautiful sculpt, but not the same as the future multipart kit.
Wasn't there something about the options on the monopose not lining up with the options the canoness can take as a combination in the 'dex, or did I misread that?
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote: You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something...
Lemondish wrote: The one in the army box is a monopose one option sculpt. Beautiful sculpt, but not the same as the future multipart kit.
Wasn't there something about the options on the monopose not lining up with the options the canoness can take as a combination in the 'dex, or did I misread that?
Apparently she can swap bits of her kit out like normal, or replace all her weapons with a bolt pistol, power sword, and rod of office.
Whereas the model has a plasma pistol, power sword, and rod of office.
It's going to be all of a half-line adjustment in the FAQ, not something they'd change a model over - even if they weren't under the clock.
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Quite a few people on the subreddit are saying that they've received emails that their box will be delayed till 'before Christmas' but have received upgraded shipping.
Rubenite wrote: Quite a few people on the subreddit are saying that they've received emails that their box will be delayed till 'before Christmas' but have received upgraded shipping.
Just got that message as well. Curious how and when my order is going to be split up and sent out.
Lemondish wrote: The one in the army box is a monopose one option sculpt. Beautiful sculpt, but not the same as the future multipart kit.
Wasn't there something about the options on the monopose not lining up with the options the canoness can take as a combination in the 'dex, or did I misread that?
Apparently she can swap bits of her kit out like normal, or replace all her weapons with a bolt pistol, power sword, and rod of office.
Whereas the model has a plasma pistol, power sword, and rod of office.
It's going to be all of a half-line adjustment in the FAQ, not something they'd change a model over - even if they weren't under the clock.
I figured it wasn't going to end up being a major thing, but sheesh.
On the upside, had confirmation from my LGS today that I can pick my box up on Saturday
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote: You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something...
Lemondish wrote: The one in the army box is a monopose one option sculpt. Beautiful sculpt, but not the same as the future multipart kit.
Wasn't there something about the options on the monopose not lining up with the options the canoness can take as a combination in the 'dex, or did I misread that?
Apparently she can swap bits of her kit out like normal, or replace all her weapons with a bolt pistol, power sword, and rod of office.
Whereas the model has a plasma pistol, power sword, and rod of office.
It's going to be all of a half-line adjustment in the FAQ, not something they'd change a model over - even if they weren't under the clock.
She's a limited release model, So she doesn't get Codex rules for her gear. Instead, you get to choose what her stuff counts as.
Lemondish wrote: The one in the army box is a monopose one option sculpt. Beautiful sculpt, but not the same as the future multipart kit.
Wasn't there something about the options on the monopose not lining up with the options the canoness can take as a combination in the 'dex, or did I misread that?
Apparently she can swap bits of her kit out like normal, or replace all her weapons with a bolt pistol, power sword, and rod of office.
Whereas the model has a plasma pistol, power sword, and rod of office.
It's going to be all of a half-line adjustment in the FAQ, not something they'd change a model over - even if they weren't under the clock.
She's a limited release model, So she doesn't get Codex rules for her gear. Instead, you get to choose what her stuff counts as.
We've seen the general release Canoness, they don't have the Limited Canoness' configuration. So like The Red Gobbo, in the sense that she's not get support in the Codex.
My FLGS messaged me to say my box is ready on Friday. The weather isn't too good for priming recently, so I may have to stick to putting the models together and reading the codex.
My FLGS said they'd be unpacking after hours on Friday, so it sounds like not quite a Black Friday release... I'll make my way there on Monday. It does sound like they have stock, or at least they think they do.
I cannot imagine nower-days GW releasing a new mini that doesn't fit with their new rules.
They say you can replace her Chainsword and/or Bolt Pistol with a few options, but the only way you can take a rod (including a flame rod) is to replace both your Chainsword and Bolt Pistol with a very specific set of weapons.
I cannot imagine nower-days GW releasing a new mini that doesn't fit with their new rules.
They say you can replace her Chainsword and/or Bolt Pistol with a few options, but the only way you can take a rod (including a flame rod) is to replace both your Chainsword and Bolt Pistol with a very specific set of weapons.
It’s a rules/model disconnect error that I imagine will be Errata’d a couple of weeks after the codex release.
MacPhail wrote: My FLGS said they'd be unpacking after hours on Friday, so it sounds like not quite a Black Friday release... I'll make my way there on Monday. It does sound like they have stock, or at least they think they do.
Definitely Friday, uk retailers already received and shipping out, both local GWs are pushing Facebook posts saying this weeks releases are Friday, people can queue for SoB box at open on Friday but no numbers.
I cannot imagine nower-days GW releasing a new mini that doesn't fit with their new rules.
They say you can replace her Chainsword and/or Bolt Pistol with a few options, but the only way you can take a rod (including a flame rod) is to replace both your Chainsword and Bolt Pistol with a very specific set of weapons.
It’s a rules/model disconnect error that I imagine will be Errata’d a couple of weeks after the codex release.
No doubt. Until then I hope folks can be patient and bend the rules a bit to allow new Sisters players to use their new Canoness without hitting them with a WYSIWYG argument.
The question is...FAQ after this release, or the one in January?
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Lammia wrote: We've seen the general release Canoness, they don't have the Limited Canoness' configuration. So like The Red Gobbo, in the sense that she's not get support in the Codex.
The general release Canoness can equip the same things minus the rod of office. Furthermore, nothing says there's a special limited configuration data sheet anywhere. It's not in the codex. It's not in the box.
I don't really know what you're referring to :(
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can neither confirm nor deny I lost track of what I've got right now. 
