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 Peregrine wrote:

 thekingofkings wrote:
saw the movie....

3) did not like the movie (no surprise there, dont like super hero movies anyway and loathe origin stories)

I think you are very confused.

no just have to take kids to see pretty much anything with the word "Marvel" or DC, or Batman, etc..

 Just Tony wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
People in this thread like Snyder and dump on Whedon. Well, I guess it’s true what they say about bad opinions. Whedon’s super hero movies crushed it at the box office. Snyder’s generally sucked. It’s not hard for me to see which one is more appreciated by the general public and why.

Jimi Hendrix was a one hit wonder. By contrast, the Spice Girls went platinum more than once and had several songs in the top 40. Fiscal profitability with the sheeple does NOT equal quality.

Did you just compare Jimi Hendrix, God of Guitar, and...,Spice Girls?


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 thekingofkings wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:

 thekingofkings wrote:
saw the movie....

3) did not like the movie (no surprise there, dont like super hero movies anyway and loathe origin stories)

I think you are very confused.

no just have to take kids to see pretty much anything with the word "Marvel" or DC, or Batman, etc..

I have been there. So many Disney princesses...

At least most of the princess movies are actually pretty good. There are far worse films out there thrown at kids... not to mention everything that goes straight to Netflix these days.

 LunarSol wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Saw it last night and really enjoyed it.

Loved how they handled her origin and where she got her powers from - nice call back to the comics without being overly complicated.

Loved the 'twists' too - they were twitsy enough to be entertaining without being too Shyamalanian in nature, if you know what I mean!

Just because I've been waiting for an opportunity to post this:

Spoiler:

The Kree actually being bad guys is not exactly a twist

Ah, probably should have kept that in your holster then - because maybe it's not one if you're a somewhat devoted comic book reader, but certainly it is one if you're just watching *this* movie.

 Alpharius wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Saw it last night and really enjoyed it.

Loved how they handled her origin and where she got her powers from - nice call back to the comics without being overly complicated.

Loved the 'twists' too - they were twitsy enough to be entertaining without being too Shyamalanian in nature, if you know what I mean!

Just because I've been waiting for an opportunity to post this:

Spoiler:

The Kree actually being bad guys is not exactly a twist

Ah, probably should have kept that in your holster then - because maybe it's not one if you're a somewhat devoted comic book reader, but certainly it is one if you're just watching *this* movie.

I suppose. I just figure between GotG and SHIELD and I feel like somewhere else, it had been pretty firmly established in the MCU already; but I can see the argument the other way.

Good point on GotG (maybe - Ronan is a rogue Kree in that, isn't he?) and possibly on Agents of Shield - but I don't think many people watch that show anymore (or ever?) because the MCU as barely connected to it, and that kind of...annoyed a lot of its potential core audience?

Yeah. GotG has the Nova Corps on Xandar being like... we finally have a cease fire with the Kree. But Ronan the Accuser is going ballistic. And the Kree she is talking to is all "::Sigh:: the Kree empire has it's own problems. Ronan is yours."

They never came across as a race of "noble warrior heroes" in the mcu before.

 Frazzled wrote:

 Just Tony wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
People in this thread like Snyder and dump on Whedon. Well, I guess it’s true what they say about bad opinions. Whedon’s super hero movies crushed it at the box office. Snyder’s generally sucked. It’s not hard for me to see which one is more appreciated by the general public and why.

Jimi Hendrix was a one hit wonder. By contrast, the Spice Girls went platinum more than once and had several songs in the top 40. Fiscal profitability with the sheeple does NOT equal quality.

Did you just compare Jimi Hendrix, God of Guitar, and...,Spice Girls?


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 thekingofkings wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:

 thekingofkings wrote:
saw the movie....

3) did not like the movie (no surprise there, dont like super hero movies anyway and loathe origin stories)

I think you are very confused.

no just have to take kids to see pretty much anything with the word "Marvel" or DC, or Batman, etc..

I have been there. So many Disney princesses...

feeling your pain, I can actually sing "let it go"


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 LunarSol wrote:
At least most of the princess movies are actually pretty good. There are far worse films out there thrown at kids... not to mention everything that goes straight to Netflix these days.

Its still a lot to handle including the "Descendents"

Descendants is 100% the kind of straight to home schlock to fear. I'll watch Frozen a dozen times happily. Descendants is a totally different kind of torture.

 Frazzled wrote:

 Just Tony wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
People in this thread like Snyder and dump on Whedon. Well, I guess it’s true what they say about bad opinions. Whedon’s super hero movies crushed it at the box office. Snyder’s generally sucked. It’s not hard for me to see which one is more appreciated by the general public and why.

Jimi Hendrix was a one hit wonder. By contrast, the Spice Girls went platinum more than once and had several songs in the top 40. Fiscal profitability with the sheeple does NOT equal quality.

Did you just compare Jimi Hendrix, God of Guitar, and...,Spice Girls?

Yeah, my eyes bled a bit on that one too. And if we're actually accepting that line of thought...I'm pretty positive the world accepts Jimi Hendrix as the god of guitars. The world accepts the Spice Girls as...annoying music that only young girls liked? It's not like people said "Jimi sucks", and other people went "no, his stuff is just so deep! You don't understand! Leave Jimi alone!!"

And yes. I just "'Leave Britney alone' guy'd" Tony. The gauntlet is down!

 Frazzled wrote:
I have been there. So many Disney princesses...

Yeah, but which one was the best? Have you thought about that?

About the Hendrix vs Spice Girl thing, I was under the impression that Hendrix fans were mostly young men (who are now older). That doesn't make him "measurably" better then the Spice Girls. It's just that most people on this board are in the demographic that Hendrix was producing for and not in the one dominated by the Spice Girls. We can't really compare these two like we can compare Whedon and Snyder or how we can compare Marvel and DC. Both are competing for the same demographic.

Well, just saw it. I liked it quite a bit - I'd put it somewhere in the upper third of the marvel movies I've seen.

I would agree that the music was both good, but hamfistedly inserted into the movie.




Really excited about Endgame now!

I'm sure they've got something big planned for Endgame and I'm sure it will be worth it, but part of me really kind of wishes this was the last Stan Lee cameo. It would just make for a nice, full circle kind of closer.

 Frazzled wrote:

 Just Tony wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
People in this thread like Snyder and dump on Whedon. Well, I guess it’s true what they say about bad opinions. Whedon’s super hero movies crushed it at the box office. Snyder’s generally sucked. It’s not hard for me to see which one is more appreciated by the general public and why.

Jimi Hendrix was a one hit wonder. By contrast, the Spice Girls went platinum more than once and had several songs in the top 40. Fiscal profitability with the sheeple does NOT equal quality.

Did you just compare Jimi Hendrix, God of Guitar, and...,Spice Girls?

No, he contrasted the relative lack of commercial success of Jimi Hendrix, God of Guitar with the huge commercial success of the Spice Girls despite their music being pop drivel.

Spice Girls may have been pop drivel, but at least they were competent pop drivel. That they’re remembered at all is testament to that, when so many impostors and would be clones have all but faded from memory.

Consider it as Burgers.

If I wanted a really good Burger? In my town, I’d head to Marlowe’s, or Sankey’s. But, if I’m just in the mood for a Burger, and I’m on the hoof, McDonalds provides a certain base quality to work from.

So just because my town has two clearly superior Burger joints doesn’t mean McDonalds should be shunned. It’s known, it’s cheap, it’s reliable.

After all, if nothing sucked, how would we know if something was cool? And if just one TV channel didn’t suck, we’d still need the other 9,000,000. Because all the programmes that suck? You gotta put them somewhere. You can’t put them on the cool channel.

But in terms of Snyder? You know the Midas Touch? He’s got that. Except it’s the faecal touch As Michael Bay has his asplosion, Snyder has his gratuitous upskirt.

 Vulcan wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 Just Tony wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
People in this thread like Snyder and dump on Whedon. Well, I guess it’s true what they say about bad opinions. Whedon’s super hero movies crushed it at the box office. Snyder’s generally sucked. It’s not hard for me to see which one is more appreciated by the general public and why.

Jimi Hendrix was a one hit wonder. By contrast, the Spice Girls went platinum more than once and had several songs in the top 40. Fiscal profitability with the sheeple does NOT equal quality.

Did you just compare Jimi Hendrix, God of Guitar, and...,Spice Girls?

No, he contrasted the relative lack of commercial success of Jimi Hendrix, God of Guitar with the huge commercial success of the Spice Girls despite their music being pop drivel.

Listen, if you guys are looking for people to contest Jimi Hendrix on his Guitar prowess, look no further. He died too early to give him the "God of Guitar" title and what he did put out was good, it was definitely not God of Guitar worthy.

Also, somebody should have taken the mic away from him because he ruins every one of his songs by trying to sing.

Moving on. I am attempting to go and see this in theaters after the good reviews have come in(I don't live in a town with a movie theater and I do not own a car, some of us are poor!). Glad people are using spoiler tags in this thread so I can actually judge peoples reactions to it rather than walking in to a bunch of spoilers nobody asked for/wanted to see out in the open.

 Vulcan wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 Just Tony wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:
People in this thread like Snyder and dump on Whedon. Well, I guess it’s true what they say about bad opinions. Whedon’s super hero movies crushed it at the box office. Snyder’s generally sucked. It’s not hard for me to see which one is more appreciated by the general public and why.

Jimi Hendrix was a one hit wonder. By contrast, the Spice Girls went platinum more than once and had several songs in the top 40. Fiscal profitability with the sheeple does NOT equal quality.

Did you just compare Jimi Hendrix, God of Guitar, and...,Spice Girls?

No, he contrasted the relative lack of commercial success of Jimi Hendrix, God of Guitar with the huge commercial success of the Spice Girls despite their music being pop drivel.

This guy gets it.



Also, as far as guitar god goes? Two words: Randy Rhoads.

Dreadwinter wrote:
Moving on. I am attempting to go and see this in theaters after the good reviews have come in(I don't live in a town with a movie theater and I do not own a car, some of us are poor!). Glad people are using spoiler tags in this thread so I can actually judge peoples reactions to it rather than walking in to a bunch of spoilers nobody asked for/wanted to see out in the open.

It is most definitely worth seeing. Though like many of Marvel's origin movies, I'm not sure it necessarily benefits from the big screen the way stuff like LotR did (Dr Strange being an exception, as it added to the mind bending spectacle. YMMV). But seeing it on the big screen won't leave you feeling short changed I feel (compared to say, By The Numbers RomCom Where The Nerd Ditches Her Glasses And People Realise She's Hot Whilst Jennifer Lopez Plays A Rags To Riches Maid #25658332185621)

Hey, I went and saw Isn't It Romantic and it was perfectly watchable and amusing, if you accept that it is also deeply stupid walking in.

...how does that relate to Captain Marvel or, at a stretch I guess, the MCU?

It doesn;t, but he wa scomparing Captain Marvel vs. a stupid rom-com. They just provide something different.

Something refreshing about Captain Marvel was there was no romantic sub-plot like Natalie Portman in Thor, Pepper in Iron Man, that other Doctor in Dr. Strange, etc. There may have been a small bro-mance between the two female pilots, but it was more friendship and mutual respect.

Yeah! Romance is for wusses! Wasn't it George Peppard who said "Girls get in the way of the action".

Ahem

Actually, I think Pepper was perfectly placed in Iron Man. If only because the near end scene where she crushes Tony's one-sided memory of the dance night. Although after that she seems to exist to tell Tony off for being Iron Man.

 Easy E wrote:
It doesn;t, but he wa scomparing Captain Marvel vs. a stupid rom-com. They just provide something different.

Something refreshing about Captain Marvel was there was no romantic sub-plot like Natalie Portman in Thor, Pepper in Iron Man, that other Doctor in Dr. Strange, etc. There may have been a small bro-mance between the two female pilots, but it was more friendship and mutual respect.

Ah, gotcha!

And you know what - I didn't even realize that there wasn't a romantic sub-plot in CM while watching it - and obviously I didn't miss not having one too!

 Easy E wrote:
It doesn;t, but he wa scomparing Captain Marvel vs. a stupid rom-com. They just provide something different.

Something refreshing about Captain Marvel was there was no romantic sub-plot like Natalie Portman in Thor, Pepper in Iron Man, that other Doctor in Dr. Strange, etc. There may have been a small bro-mance between the two female pilots, but it was more friendship and mutual respect.

That's good to hear. I liked Pepper Potts mind you, but Black Widow feels weird in how they treat her.

Part of what makes Pepper work is simply that they've been willing to keep advancing their relationship past the will they won't they shlock. It's helped make her smaller appearances post IM3 feel more meaningful and made her prior damsel in distress roles feel as important in hindsight as they did initially.

Black Widow definitely gets stuck with the "there's a girl here! Quick, find her a man!" that you find in pretty much every movie ever. Captain Marvel basically never even approaching that was certainly refreshing.

Yeah, it's unfortunate, too. Black Widow's interrogating Loki was perfect, so it's not like they hadn't demonstrated they didn't know how to use her character concept properly... they just chose not to.

Black Widow sorta flirting with Cap was cool, but pairing her off with Banner - on the grounds that he was only eligible one - was/is gringeworthy. Those two have no chemistry whatsoever.

My thoughts exactly.

Thanks joss whedon!

 Easy E wrote:

Something refreshing about Captain Marvel was there was no romantic sub-plot like Natalie Portman in Thor, Pepper in Iron Man, that other Doctor in Dr. Strange, etc. There may have been a small bro-mance between the two female pilots, but it was more friendship and mutual respect.

What? Did you completely miss the whole Fury/Goose romance?