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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/12 17:04:58
Subject: Obsure models and rules. What do you want GW to make next?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I'm all down for Kroot Mercs again.
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CaptainStabby wrote:If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote:BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote:Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote:ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/12 20:17:22
Subject: Re:Obsure models and rules. What do you want GW to make next?
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Dark Angels Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
Canada
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A new Belial. I am fine with most plastic or metal models, but I just absolutely hate the feel of resin models and would like to see them all disappear and be replaced with nice new smooth plastic.
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Fallen: 3K |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/12 20:26:17
Subject: Obsure models and rules. What do you want GW to make next?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Semi OT but plastic skaven skryer stuff.
but really would love to see Jokareo stuff
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/12 20:31:28
Subject: Re:Obsure models and rules. What do you want GW to make next?
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Stalwart Tribune
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I would like to see things like Inquisitorial henchmen (and Inquisitors as fully customisable HQ choices), basic servitors, stuff like that - basically blanch style the 40k universe...
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Praise the Omnissiah
About 4k of .
Imperial Knights (Valiant, Warden & Armigers)
Some Misc. Imperium units etc. Assassins...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/12 22:32:05
Subject: Obsure models and rules. What do you want GW to make next?
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
Alaska
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Yeah, I'd like to see a Tau Auxiliaries book that covered the Kroot plus a menagerie of other members of the Tau Empire (Kroot could probably stand on their own though).
Selfishly I'd like an Ork Yoofs/Feral Orks dual kit. More squigs and snotlings and other runts would also be welcome. They probably wouldn't add all that much to the game though, I just think they're fun. A far more practical thing would be to add back a lot of the major units that we're cut, but Warbosses in Mega Armor and plain old Big Meks aren't obscure.
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YELL REAL LOUD AN' CARRY A BIG CHOPPA! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/12 22:38:20
Subject: Obsure models and rules. What do you want GW to make next?
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Can't decide between Tau Auxilia, renegades / lost of the damned.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/12 23:23:47
Subject: Obsure models and rules. What do you want GW to make next?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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For model nostalgia, Arbites.
For actual gameplay use, pretty much start with the oldest stuff that doesn’t even have plastic and go forwards from there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/12 23:25:01
Subject: Re:Obsure models and rules. What do you want GW to make next?
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Morphing Obliterator
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Even though I sold my Orks off many many years ago:
Wazdakka Gutzmek
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"In relating the circumstances which have led to my confinement in this refuge for the demented, I am aware that my present position will create a natural doubt of the authenticity of my narrative." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/12 23:52:56
Subject: Re:Obsure models and rules. What do you want GW to make next?
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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I would cry and squee with joy at the same time. This is a very good answer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/13 00:59:47
Subject: Obsure models and rules. What do you want GW to make next?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I want a Living Saint kit, Inquisitors and henchmen, more Ecclesiarchy. I am also a huge nerd who likes non-combat stuff- along the lines of the servohaulers and the frag drill. FW makes a Valkyrie Skyclaw and a Thunderhawk equivalent- I would love those models!
But the biggest ask?
I really want GW to get behind a plastic repressor with the sisters release- it's time for GW to get off the pot. This unit is almost universally acknowledged as the best unit in the list and it needs the legitimacy of a GW Codex entry and an official GW model.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/13 01:46:54
Subject: Re:Obsure models and rules. What do you want GW to make next?
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World-Weary Pathfinder
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Eldar Corsair command squad... Prince(ss), Void Dreamer, Gyrinx, Gatorex, Standard Bearer
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/13 02:13:50
Subject: Obsure models and rules. What do you want GW to make next?
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Jinking Ravenwing Land Speeder Pilot
Hanoi, Vietnam.
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Giantwalkingchair wrote:Gothic buildings that aren't ruins. Big ole cathedrals and administratum buildings and palaces.
the_scotsman wrote:New models for *big breath in*
Vect Sliscus Deldar HQ mobility options The Baron Aspect Warriors Pheonix Lords Harlequin Mimes Webway Guardian Constructs Named Harlequin Characters Guardians Hormagants Termagants Genestealers Lictors Necron Destroyers Kroot Vespids Demiurg GSC Limos Ghazkhull Tankbustas Kommandos Deffcoptas Zogwart Wazdakka.
What will we actually get new models for?
Space marines, and other space marine related nostalgia things that nobody asked for.
By the Emperor's Golden Throne son! A semicolon or two would not have gone astray.
To my earlier post, I'd also like to add Imperial citizenry, Tau citizenry, and Human Tau Auxiliaries.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/13 02:25:10
Subject: Obsure models and rules. What do you want GW to make next?
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
Alaska
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Ginjitzu wrote:To my earlier post, I'd also like to add Imperial citizenry, Tau citizenry, and Human Tau Auxiliaries.
I do like civilian and support units. I can see those staying with Forge World, though, as I'm guessing the majority of players aren't interested. (I'm not even saying they need rules, I just like seeing some come to life in model form.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/13 03:04:32
Subject: Obsure models and rules. What do you want GW to make next?
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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Squats, Squats, Squats, Squats, Squats, Squats.
but wouldn't mind a Thunder Warrior, Kelbor Hal, etc... for actual 40k tho, probably Hrud.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/13 03:23:54
Subject: Obsure models and rules. What do you want GW to make next?
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Sagitarius with a Big F'in Gun
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Dark Mechanicum codex.
Lost and the Damnned Codex.
More Xenos to emphasise on the "Empire" part of the "Tau Empire" (Maybe also give the gnarly-looking Xenos like the Ambull to the Drukhari... Units of Ambulls mannnn....)
Preatorian Guard and new Plastic Guardsmen models.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/13 03:28:25
Subject: Obsure models and rules. What do you want GW to make next?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Delvarus Centurion wrote: cuda1179 wrote:GW has been scraping the bottom the nostalgia bin for a while now. We are seeing weird background-only characters getting models like the Ambull. With that in mind, if you could decide the next box set of something random, what would it be? (within reason now)
For me, I'd like to see a 5-man box set of Thunder Warriors in Mk1 Thunder Armor. Basically Primaris in size, but in REALLY old power armor. 4-monopose bolter, pistol, and CCW guys, and a Sergeant with a couple options. Nothing too fancy.
They couldn't exist in 40k, not without some bad lore based around 'fixing' their self-life.
I'd like to see some characters get models and rules, Erebus, Lord commander Eidolon, Constantin Valdor etc. I really want Berzerkers on Juggernauts though.
I thought there was all ready some books about Thunder Warriors that survived long after the Reunification Wars. They had started to quite literally come apart, but their leader became an underground gansta. They eventually rounded up enough gene splicing/alteration drugs and equipment to pull themselves together.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/13 04:37:50
Subject: Re:Obsure models and rules. What do you want GW to make next?
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Slaanesh Veteran Marine with Tentacles
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Unaligned units would be great if they could actually be slotted into any army without breaking battle-forged. Otherwise more upgrade kits for unit upgrades that are painfully bottlenecked. It doesn't even have to cover most of GW's catalogue, but just a handful of the most sought after bits from each army. Plasma/melta guns for regular guardsmen, blasters for DE, tau drone fuselages, harlequin weapons etc. Call it "Kill Team:Arsenal" or "Golden Armory" it really doesn't matter.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/13 09:19:19
Subject: Obsure models and rules. What do you want GW to make next?
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Reliable Krootox
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Upgrade and customisation sprues galore.
New plastic guardsmen kit with the command options bundled in.
New Rough Riders
Plastic aspect warriors and assorted Eldar jiggery-pokery.
More Kroot and expanded Tau Axilia.
More flavour and customisation options for everything.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/13 10:02:06
Subject: Obsure models and rules. What do you want GW to make next?
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Fresh-Faced New User
France
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Lost & Damned 2.0. In 40k fiction CSM are often the exception, not the rule. Cultists kinda helped, but there is nothing to really represent a competent mortals-only chaos force like say the opposing forces in Gaunt's Ghosts.
Yeah, there is the R&H list from FW, but :
1 - It's FW, so not everyone is fine with it.
2 - It nicely represent an uprising, what with the abundance of units unaware of which end of the autoguns make the loud noises, but not a competent chaos force.
3 - It has several playability problems. Worst amongst them being that random leadership. Rolling 1d6+2 for leadership is cute at first, but forced randomness gets old really fast. Also, look at a typical guard list. Imagine having to individually keep track of each unit's leadership. It's a clusterfeth.
PS :
I hate Eldar... But Exodites seem cool and haven't been done yet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/13 18:18:57
Subject: Re:Obsure models and rules. What do you want GW to make next?
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Nasty Nob
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I do agree that the Lost and the Damned list from Codex:Eye of Terror is the obvious starting point for this type of list.
That had the bedth and depth to represent a scrofulous horde of mutants to a degraded but functional Imperial Guard type army, with greater or lesser involvement of Aspiring Champions of Chaos from the Space Marine legions.
In fact, given how GW has been plumbing the depths of nostalgia for ideas lately I'm surprised they haven't reused one of their most creative army lists!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/14 00:30:20
Subject: Obsure models and rules. What do you want GW to make next?
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
Eastern Fringe
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I'd like to see a rogue trader / dogs of war type codex with a collection of strange units from around the galaxy anyone could have.
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The first rule of unarmed combat is: don’t be unarmed. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/14 01:09:50
Subject: Obsure models and rules. What do you want GW to make next?
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Sinewy Scourge
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Dark Eldar bike HQs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/14 06:51:30
Subject: Obsure models and rules. What do you want GW to make next?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Exodite eldar
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/14 09:00:23
Subject: Obsure models and rules. What do you want GW to make next?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Rules - Rules for all characters whose models have been released, but retired.
Models - Either Arbites, or a terrain kit for each Xenos race.
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/14 09:09:54
Subject: Obsure models and rules. What do you want GW to make next?
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[DCM]
Chief Deputy Sub Assistant Trainee Squig Handling Intern
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Chaos. Toilet.
Dwarf with an inferiority complex.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/14 09:40:01
Subject: Re:Obsure models and rules. What do you want GW to make next?
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Kroem wrote:I do agree that the Lost and the Damned list from Codex:Eye of Terror is the obvious starting point for this type of list.
That had the bedth and depth to represent a scrofulous horde of mutants to a degraded but functional Imperial Guard type army, with greater or lesser involvement of Aspiring Champions of Chaos from the Space Marine legions.
In fact, given how GW has been plumbing the depths of nostalgia for ideas lately I'm surprised they haven't reused one of their most creative army lists!
Nope, the old campaign book whilest OK had not the depth for it.
What many really want is a IA13 style list, this one had the depth necessary.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/14 11:38:47
Subject: Re:Obsure models and rules. What do you want GW to make next?
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Nasty Nob
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Not Online!!! wrote: Kroem wrote:I do agree that the Lost and the Damned list from Codex:Eye of Terror is the obvious starting point for this type of list. That had the bedth and depth to represent a scrofulous horde of mutants to a degraded but functional Imperial Guard type army, with greater or lesser involvement of Aspiring Champions of Chaos from the Space Marine legions. In fact, given how GW has been plumbing the depths of nostalgia for ideas lately I'm surprised they haven't reused one of their most creative army lists! Nope, the old campaign book whilest OK had not the depth for it. What many really want is a IA13 style list, this one had the depth necessary.
Well I can't comment on the Siege of Vrakks list as I've never read it! I don't think it makes a good starting point though, as it is still extant and GW would be stepping on FW's toes by copy pasting it. The Lost and Damned list had good depth though. The mutie squad for example: could take rifles or pistols and ccw, had multiple special weapon options, could take special marks of Chaos to customise the type of mutant and could be led by a mutant champion or Chaos Space Marine each with their own wargear options. That's a great level of depth for a bog standard troop unit! Edit: Just to expand on the special marks thing, each almost changed the purpose of the unit. From memory, 1 gave them wings to turn them into a super fast unit, 1 gave them extra close combat attacks, 1 turned them into plague zombies (reducing their cost and removing their shooting). I can't remember the others but they were proper cool.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 9021/04/23 14:06:40
Subject: Re:Obsure models and rules. What do you want GW to make next?
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Kroem wrote:Not Online!!! wrote: Kroem wrote:I do agree that the Lost and the Damned list from Codex:Eye of Terror is the obvious starting point for this type of list.
That had the bedth and depth to represent a scrofulous horde of mutants to a degraded but functional Imperial Guard type army, with greater or lesser involvement of Aspiring Champions of Chaos from the Space Marine legions.
In fact, given how GW has been plumbing the depths of nostalgia for ideas lately I'm surprised they haven't reused one of their most creative army lists!
Nope, the old campaign book whilest OK had not the depth for it.
What many really want is a IA13 style list, this one had the depth necessary.
Well I can't comment on the Siege of Vrakks list as I've never read it! I don't think it makes a good starting point though, as it is still extant and GW would be stepping on FW's toes by copy pasting it.
The Lost and Damned list had good depth though. The mutie squad for example: could take rifles or pistols and ccw, had multiple special weapon options, could take special marks of Chaos to customise the type of mutant and could be led by a mutant champion or Chaos Space Marine each with their own wargear options. That's a great level of depth for a bog standard troop unit!
Edit: Just to expand on the special marks thing, each almost changed the purpose of the unit.
From memory, 1 gave them wings to turn them into a super fast unit, 1 gave them extra close combat attacks, 1 turned them into plague zombies (reducing their cost and removing their shooting).
I can't remember the others but they were proper cool.
IA13 IS NOT SIEGE OF VRAKS.
And it is a better starting point for lost and the damned then the campaign book which you look at with such rose tinted eyes.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/14 16:06:47
Subject: Obsure models and rules. What do you want GW to make next?
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Mine got some odd looks from the young ‘uns when I was running it as a Bilepiper in my local GW the other day. They couldn’t quite comprehend GW had made such a thing.
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Games Workshop Delenda Est.
Users on ignore- 53.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/03/21 01:58:09
Subject: Re:Obsure models and rules. What do you want GW to make next?
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Jinking Ravenwing Land Speeder Pilot
Hanoi, Vietnam.
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Enough of this Rogue Trader nonsense! I want to see actual Rouge traders!  After all, this particular variation on spelling has been around almost as long as the proper, no?
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