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 Chairman Aeon wrote:
Agreed, Contrast does imply a shading system, but how do you go from grey plastic to painted army especially as GW loves their bright primary colours.

It could be a two-part system, where they match the dips to the appropriate spray primer/basecoat to achieve the final result.

Or...what if they came up with some magical dip that works the opposite of what we're expecting? Instead of sinking into the crevices, it stays up on the edges to provide highlights?

Dumb question- I thought Nuln Oil and Agrash Earthshade ARE dips. What's the difference between a dip and a shade?

 Chairman Aeon wrote:
Agreed, Contrast does imply a shading system, but how do you go from grey plastic to painted army especially as GW loves their bright primary colours.

Coloured spray, then dip.


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Comstar wrote:
Dumb question- I thought Nuln Oil and Agrash Earthshade ARE dips. What's the difference between a dip and a shade?

Nuln Oil and Agrax Erathshade are washes, not dips. Washes are applied to the model with a brush. Dips are exactly how they sound - you dip the miniature in the pot, then shake off the excess and let it dry.

Before Army Painter, people were doing this with oil-based wood stains.

Dry pigments maybe?

 insaniak wrote:

 Chairman Aeon wrote:
Agreed, Contrast does imply a shading system, but how do you go from grey plastic to painted army especially as GW loves their bright primary colours.

Coloured spray, then dip.


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Comstar wrote:
Dumb question- I thought Nuln Oil and Agrash Earthshade ARE dips. What's the difference between a dip and a shade?

Nuln Oil and Agrax Erathshade are washes, not dips. Washes are applied to the model with a brush. Dips are exactly how they sound - you dip the miniature in the pot, then shake off the excess and let it dry.

Before Army Painter, people were doing this with oil-based wood stains.

I still swear Army Painter is just repackaged Minwax Polishade.

 Theophony wrote:
Maybe they are finally releasing the WarTer(GW trademarked water) for cleaning brushes and diluting down paint colors so there can be 50 shades of everything.

You should check out our Water+, no gimmicks and the real deal.

It's not distilled water but a heavily modified version that improves painting immensly as well as looking after your brushes at the same time!

Maybe its colored plastic? Didn't we see a rumor about that?

 Supershandy wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
Maybe they are finally releasing the WarTer(GW trademarked water) for cleaning brushes and diluting down paint colors so there can be 50 shades of everything.

You should check out our Water+, no gimmicks and the real deal.

It's not distilled water but a heavily modified version that improves painting immensly as well as looking after your brushes at the same time!

Does it contain electrolytes?

Electrolytes are what my brush craves

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Maybe its colored plastic? Didn't we see a rumor about that?

They’ve said it’s not that.

Whatever it is i very much doubt GW have something in the pipeline that no-one has ever thought of... so its probably not going to be as game-changing as claimed...

I'm SO curious though.... when is the reveal?

FTL

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Supershandy wrote:

 Theophony wrote:
Maybe they are finally releasing the WarTer(GW trademarked water) for cleaning brushes and diluting down paint colors so there can be 50 shades of everything.

You should check out our Water+, no gimmicks and the real deal.

It's not distilled water but a heavily modified version that improves painting immensly as well as looking after your brushes at the same time!

Does it contain electrolytes?

Electrolytes are what my brush craves

Oh not at all, I can't really divulge what's in it, other than the fact that anyone who has used it has found it very difficult to go back to using other mediums.

As one of our customers put it "I'm so confused by it, it made the paint smoother and I was able to paint longer without refilling the brush, I don't understand it, It's thin like water but it doesn't disperse like water....why does it work? WHAT IS THIS MAGIC?"



It's hard to explain, but we give out a free sample bottle with every order so people can try it for themselves and see what all the hype is about.

I'd wager they're releasing some variety of walking clock...

 Supershandy wrote:
Oh not at all, I can't really divulge what's in it, other than the fact that anyone who has used it has found it very difficult to go back to using other mediums.

As one of our customers put it "I'm so confused by it, it made the paint smoother and I was able to paint longer without refilling the brush, I don't understand it, It's thin like water but it doesn't disperse like water....why does it work? WHAT IS THIS MAGIC?"



It's hard to explain, but we give out a free sample bottle with every order so people can try it for themselves and see what all the hype is about.

So... It's just acrylic medium like what a dozen other brands sell that you're claiming is "just water with a little something special"?

 Snrub wrote:

 Supershandy wrote:
Oh not at all, I can't really divulge what's in it, other than the fact that anyone who has used it has found it very difficult to go back to using other mediums.

As one of our customers put it "I'm so confused by it, it made the paint smoother and I was able to paint longer without refilling the brush, I don't understand it, It's thin like water but it doesn't disperse like water....why does it work? WHAT IS THIS MAGIC?"



It's hard to explain, but we give out a free sample bottle with every order so people can try it for themselves and see what all the hype is about.

So... It's just acrylic medium like what a dozen other brands sell that you're claiming is "just water with a little something special"?

Well that's the thing, It doesn't contain acrylic, nor does it contain alcohol, it contains a secret formula that only we know that helps give ultra smooth coats without even trying by enhancing the properties of the paint that's already there.....think of it as a retarder that doesn't thicken your paint, but speeds up the drying time.

We've had a lot of feedback that it has made Army Painter and Scale 75 colours much better to work with, not only in general consistency, but also blending too.

Monkeyswithfire over on Twitch along with Grey paladin Arts are heavy users of it as is Roll1toexplode all ordering 100ml bottles shortly after obtaining samples along with Asset Drop ordering a large amount for their subscribers because they loved using it so much and ended up using the entire sample bottle we'd sent them over anything else they traditionally used.

We're also beginning to see Studios starting to place orders for large amount of it too.

You'll know it's something different when you smell it and taste it...oh yeah, it's non-toxic too so brush lickers will be happy

Um, pretty sure this the News and Rumours thread for GWs latest offering and not the Instar thread guys.

 fasterthanlight wrote:
Whatever it is i very much doubt GW have something in the pipeline that no-one has ever thought of... so its probably not going to be as game-changing as claimed...

It's unlikely for sure, but not 100% impossible. If someone out there thought of something new, they might contact a big company like GW to sell them their products, instead of trying to launch it themselves.

They told this stuff is supposed to make painting quicker, which to me completely excludes airbrushes. They're great to get gradients, or put down a base coat, but aren't very useful for tabletop quality if you can already buy a spray can of your base color. It's also a bit complicated to sell this to kids, and as part of their panting system.
Dips could work, but basecoating your whole model and putting a thick coat of agrax or nuln oil already produces something similar. It wouldn't be much of a game changer, unless it comes in a variety of colors that match their existing line pretty well.

So I'm really hoping for something new, that none of us though about.

Prior to the Contrast video, I had the crazy idea that GW might just be finally launching some kind of painting service, but, I guess they aren’t going down that route now.

I am starting to jump on the train of thought that it’s a new way of painting. One of the things they always say at the paint and terrain seminars is that they are lazy painters and want to do everything possible to make painting as easy as possible for everyone.

Pre painted plastics just like Confrontation . The deathknell ringeth

Probably not pre-painted. Could be pre-primed, though. Or primed and washed, so it comes ready to paint and already with a gradient.

Of course, you'd still need to touch up the spots where you clip off the sprue.

A leftfield guess,

could they be bringing back some version of these



perhaps on clear acrylic rather than card like a few recent KS projects?

no need to paint, no more grey hordes

unlikely but you never know

Why would they put out products that go against their miniature sets?

How about photo-sensitive paint? A paint that would permanently become brighter if exposed to a UV lamp.
So you paint your model without highlights, then put it under a UV lamp shining from above, and bim, a literal zenithal highlight.

Another variation would be a paint that changes color when exposed to a specific chemical. The change being greater the more concentrated the chemical is. So you paint your whole model with these colors, then wash it with a non-colored wash that contain the chemical of interest. Since it pools in the recesses, it affects these areas a lot more than flat surfaces.
Here, it would affect each color differently, instead of applying the same tint to every surface like you get when you wash everything with black or brown.


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Or a combination of the two: you paint everything with paints that become brighter when exposed to a chemical, and then spray that chemical from above using a spray can.

I was in camp Airbrush, but I'm definitely now in camp Dip.

I'm just going on a limb and put my money on a paint designed for glazing layers for better blends.

I'm going with them starting to offer 'rank and file' units in precolored plastics.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I'm going with them starting to offer 'rank and file' units in precolored plastics.

It shows the paint range logo in both trailers. Coloured plastics isn’t really paint related, so I don’t think it’s that.

Preprimed miniatures.

 fasterthanlight wrote:
Whatever it is i very much doubt GW have something in the pipeline that no-one has ever thought of... so its probably not going to be as game-changing as claimed...

I'm SO curious though.... when is the reveal?

FTL

Exactly. Remember however that GW lives in a bubble (or at least acts like they do). Nothing exists outside of GW's world. If they have never sold a real airbrush before, then they assume their customers don't even know that tool exists. So for GW, a GW branded airbrush will be groundbreaking!

Eavy Metal painters used all kinds of tools and products behind the curtains a long time but could only publicly show painting techniques using GW paints and brushes.

For everyone that has been using airbrushes, we will continue using them and balk at whatever price GW reveals. For people who live in the GW bubble their minds will be blown and they will jump at the chance to overpay for a midgrade airbrush with GW's logo.

Whatever it is, someone probably already makes it. It's probably been slated for years by GW fans, but when GW release it, it will be the best thing since sliced bread, and more expensive than the other brands.

if it is an airbrush that does mean that the GW painting toutorials will allow them to feature an airbrush, which... is proably a good thing as the production quality of the toutorial videos from GW are IMHO better then the other ones on youtube