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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Buy it from online discounter. Keep the Helverins, flog the Castellan. Break even?

Or turn it into wreckage markers and be the envy of all your friends!

Did you get a price on the Apocalypse box itself, the Skorpius Disintegrator, and the Repulsor Executioner?

I've been wanting to build a Tau robot army for a while now.. this could be just what I need to get started. Maybe I missed it, any word on the prices for these sets yet?

 Necros wrote:
I've been wanting to build a Tau robot army for a while now.. this could be just what I need to get started. Maybe I missed it, any word on the prices for these sets yet?

One page back the Mad Doc has heard that they are in the £100 bracket.

 Necros wrote:
I've been wanting to build a Tau robot army for a while now.. this could be just what I need to get started. Maybe I missed it, any word on the prices for these sets yet?

If Grotsnik's posted price is the retail price rather than a discounted price from a 3rd party, they'd be $160 going off of GW's pricebands.

Which means that they will go fast, especially since they're called out as limited quantities from the outset.

Here's the breakdown on prices for stuff individually(in USD):
AdMech--$243
Tau--$285
Necrons--$261
Space Marines--$280
Craftworlds--$267.50[this is assuming $25 on the Spiritseer, which is pretty likely as he's on a 25mm base rather than a 32mm)
Guard--$250.25
Tyranids--$259.25
Orks--$249.50
Knights--$245
Chaos Marines--$284.75

That would put, assuming $160 is correct and is MSRP rather than a discounted price, the savings at:
AdMech--$83
Tau--$125
Necrons--$101
Space Marines--$120
Craftworlds--$107.50
Guard--$90.25
Tyranids--$99.25
Orks--$89.50
Knights--$85
Chaos Marines--$124.75

Plan accordingly!

BrianDavion wrote:


this is doubly so as really apoc didn't add much to 40k in the past, and what it did add was stuff that is pretty much core. so there's room to make apoc a more stream lined way to do large scale games

I wouldn't say that. Some of the old Apocs have indeed been rules-laboratories for stuff that later moved to "mainstream"-40K.

Lords of War/Superheavies being originally Apoc-only is the obvious, but there are others.

Allies: 4th/5th (basically) didn't have allies, but Apoc had a system to allow people to merge their armies for big Apoc games, which later became the 6th/7th allies system (from battle brothers to "come the apocalypse", which were literally apoc-game-only allies).

Formations: The very appearance of formations was Apoc, not least to "speed up" (*cough*) the game, thus instead of shooting 3, say, vindicator-tanks separately, you could shoot them all at once using one apoc-giant-template instead. It was the birth of stuff like Linebreaker Bombardment, which later became "mainstream"-stuff in 40K as Formations (and even has a nod in the current rules as a Stratagem). Indeed, those now "Apocalypse Battalions" seem a much more genuine variant of "Formations" than the optional keyword-buy-in of the Vigilus books.

8th Edition being pretty much exactly 2 years old now, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the stuff -- alternating activation of detachments (or some other form of "battle-group"/"formation") or delayed-damage-mechanisms to take the sting out of alpha-strikes are also some test balloons and brainstorming ideas for stuff we might see in 9th edition in the "main game" come 2021 or so.

Kinda cool that they have these cross-pollinations of ideas, like they're workshopping their games.

Nurglitch wrote:
Kinda cool that they have these cross-pollinations of ideas, like they're workshopping their games.

Revelation or not, there isn't any call for that kind of Apocalyptic punning.

Haha the only thing this is designed to speed up is the amount of bundle boxes they sell ;-)

And to clear their stock of Chaos Bikers.

Of course what they should'a done was put this guy in the AdMech box, not another blasted Dominus. Those guys are like McDonald's fries. They come with everything.

And they should'a done a GSC one with this guy.

Even if it comes out to 50% off retail that's still a heluva deal, for any set. I also like the knights, but I think for a big robot army the tau look better and will be more fun to paint, and paint quick. Wonder if it would be worth getting 2 boxes to have a big army? But then I'd probably build half, paint half of that, and then forget about it, if there's too much work

I'd also wanna add in a stormsurge, ghostkeel and a couple of broadsides.. so there goes another $300. I think I need another tax return...

If the Knight was the one with the huge spear chucka I'd be powerless at 100£ (80£ with online discount?) including Helverins. I'm not really a fan of tge Castellan's look.

And really hoping for a Baneblade from discounters

I don't need more bikes or Terminator Lords, but $160 for 3 squads of the new CSM sculpts plus extras may be too hard to pass up.

Very interesting.

Some of these rules sound really promising. I firmly believe that alternating activations is something that 40K desperately needs, and resolving damage at the end of a round after everyone has gone really makes sense to me. I can’t wait to play this edition of Apocalypse, and if it plays well I will have to try and port some of these rules over to 40K.

One of the big pluses that Apoc brings to the table for me is that the units a lot of us don’t use typically have some role to fill in the game, like Terminators or Repentia. I eagerly await making my preorder!

I really wish they didn't put bikers and the lord in the box but my wallet is happy about it. Because it make it easy no buy for me.

Patiently wait to see if a Custodes or a Death Guard one pops up in the future.

 BrotherGecko wrote:
I really wish they didn't put bikers and the lord in the box but my wallet is happy about it. Because it make it easy no buy for me.

Patiently wait to see if a Custodes or a Death Guard one pops up in the future.

I’m gonna assume these are it, honestly.

Is the baneblade a new reboxing? They got did of the shadow sword box?

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Buy it from online discounter. Keep the Helverins, flog the Castellan. Break even?

Did you get a price on the Apocalypse box itself, the Skorpius Disintegrator, and the Repulsor Executioner?

Afraid not chap, only the alleged (and I'm inclined to believe accurate) price of the Apoc Boxes.

 SickSix wrote:
Is the baneblade a new reboxing? They got did of the shadow sword box?

One box, all variants.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Buy it from online discounter. Keep the Helverins, flog the Castellan. Break even?

Did you get a price on the Apocalypse box itself, the Skorpius Disintegrator, and the Repulsor Executioner?

Afraid not chap, only the alleged (and I'm inclined to believe accurate) price of the Apoc Boxes.

Chapter Master Valrak on Bolter and Chaisword posted this:

My source has sent me the prices, as always please take with salt, nothing is confirmed until we see it on the GW website:

All apocalypse trays will be 25£/32.5€/40$
All apocalypse detachment will be 100£/130€/170$
Primaris repulsor will be 60£/80€/100$
Admech Skorpius Disintegrator 85£/110€/140$
Apocalypse rulebook is 60£/80€/100$
Apocalypse datasheet cards comming for all "boxed" armies at 15£/20€/25$

Baneblade is staying the same price

However, I’m pretty sure there’s something wrong with the AdMech tank price. £85 would be absolutely ludicrous, for a 2 sprue tank that’s smaller than the repulsor. It’s either just wrong, or you get multiples (but that seems a weird way to do it). So I dunno what that means for the accuracy of the rest of the list.

Edit: His source corrected, Baneblade is £85, AdMech transport is £45.

I think some sources mixed up AdMech tank and Baneblades prices.

 ImAGeek wrote:

However, I’m pretty sure there’s something wrong with the AdMech tank price. £85 would be absolutely ludicrous, for a 2 sprue tank that’s smaller than the repulsor. It’s either just wrong, or you get multiples (but that seems a weird way to do it). So I dunno what that means for the accuracy of the rest of the list.

Edit: His source corrected, Baneblade is £85, AdMech transport is £45.

I was going to say that it would make sense for NZD or AUD.

As it stands, it's the price of a Land Raider(?!?!).

That thing must be heeeeeeeeeeefty.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

However, I’m pretty sure there’s something wrong with the AdMech tank price. £85 would be absolutely ludicrous, for a 2 sprue tank that’s smaller than the repulsor. It’s either just wrong, or you get multiples (but that seems a weird way to do it). So I dunno what that means for the accuracy of the rest of the list.

Edit: His source corrected, Baneblade is £85, AdMech transport is £45.

I was going to say that it would make sense for NZD or AUD.

As it stands, it's the price of a Land Raider(?!?!).

That thing must be heeeeeeeeeeefty.

It’s not overly, it’s just expensive.




The new Repulsor thing is also £10 more than the Repulsor despite just being a sprue swap. Ah well.

 Elbows wrote:
Just to clarify, you actually think that normal size marines are still going to get new production models? He's merely pointing out that the classic marine line is no longer expanding and will only be in decline. He's correct. Why be an ass?

I don't know how things look in your reality, but in this one this is about to drop and last time I checked it's not a primaris:



And that is on top of FW constantly adding 40K compatible oldmarine stuff, and SM heroes range adding yet another completely redundant, same-same squatterine units.

"Correct" you say? Yeah, "just" 3 ranges constantly adding new models, it's less than nothing!

So it is just a pinch above $125 US for the Iyanden box and the Chaos box? Holy hell am I EVER going to buy those...

It's also not a regular Marine, it's a Terminator. And you know this. And you know what Elbows means when he says normal size Marine.

Stop being disingenuous.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

However, I’m pretty sure there’s something wrong with the AdMech tank price. £85 would be absolutely ludicrous, for a 2 sprue tank that’s smaller than the repulsor. It’s either just wrong, or you get multiples (but that seems a weird way to do it). So I dunno what that means for the accuracy of the rest of the list.

Edit: His source corrected, Baneblade is £85, AdMech transport is £45.

I was going to say that it would make sense for NZD or AUD.

As it stands, it's the price of a Land Raider(?!?!).

That thing must be heeeeeeeeeeefty.

It’s not overly, it’s just expensive.

Spoiler:

The new Repulsor thing is also £10 more than the Repulsor despite just being a sprue swap. Ah well.

I wouldn't be shocked if the Repulsor isn't a "sprue swap" but rather an additional sprue like the Knight Warden kit.


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 Just Tony wrote:
So it is just a pinch above $125 US for the Iyanden box and the Chaos box? Holy hell am I EVER going to buy those...

$160 for those boxes.

Sotahullu wrote:

Spoiler:

I think some sources mixed up AdMech tank and Baneblades prices.

Cheers for that, makes trying to figure out a budget a bit easier.

I am very tempted by that Ork box and will likely get at least one of the Chaos ones too.

I may also go to Ebay for cheap Chaos Bikers when people start unloading them despite the 3rd ed sculpt. They are a pretty good unit with lots of firepower though I probably don't need more then 12.

Edit: Also as someone who has played multiple Apocalypse games in the last year I am very excited for this rule set. Alternating activation will reduce inactive waiting drastically just by itself with no other changes and models dying at the end of the turn will really reduce feel bad moments in what is supposed to be a zany fun format.

 techsoldaten wrote:
I don't need more bikes or Terminator Lords, but $160 for 3 squads of the new CSM sculpts plus extras may be too hard to pass up.

Very interesting.

Curious. Why? Common Space Marines, Heretical or Loyalist are trash teir units in the current edition of the game. They bring nothing, die to massed S3 fire.

Nothing in that box seems like things I would want (Namely: Obliterators, Havoks, Chosen)

This would have been a great opportunity to actually add another new Chaos kit, I.E. CHOSEN to the game.

 Togusa wrote:

 techsoldaten wrote:
I don't need more bikes or Terminator Lords, but $160 for 3 squads of the new CSM sculpts plus extras may be too hard to pass up.

Very interesting.

Curious. Why? Common Space Marines, Heretical or Loyalist are trash teir units in the current edition of the game. They bring nothing, die to massed S3 fire.

Nothing in that box seems like things I would want (Namely: Obliterators, Havoks, Chosen)

This would have been a great opportunity to actually add another new Chaos kit, I.E. CHOSEN to the game.

They weren’t going to add new units in discount boxes.