Apocalypse and other reinforcements up for preorder

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**Mr Morden**

BrianDavion wrote:
Mr Morden wrote:
on the new datacards

Knights, Ad Mech - who got a new model and special Battalion box not getting datacards is bizzare.

The rest is annoying - hopefully they will get soemthing in any second wave.

apparently the datacard where made just for a "Selection of the most popular factions" although it's odd that knights aren't included. Knights are, arguably the most popular IoM army outside of Space Marines.

Also no named characters in the Marines box....

According to facebook:

The datasheet cards that are available to pre-order currently are the only ones that are being produced, Alistair. You can download every single datasheet for Apocalypse for free from the Warhammer 40,000:

Well thats fething rubbish

**Necros**

So now I'm really torn.. do I go with the Tau set to start my big robot army I always wanted? or go with the space marine set to have tons of troops to go with the starter set marines I have half painted?

**BrianDavion**

Necros wrote:
So now I'm really torn.. do I go with the Tau set to start my big robot army I always wanted? or go with the space marine set to have tons of troops to go with the starter set marines I have half painted?

**SamusDrake**

Somehow I think a mistake has been made here...

https://www.waylandgames.co.uk/games-workshop/68028-warhammer-40-000-apocalypse-english

...either that or GW is now getting competitive on their prices!

**GoatboyBeta**

Overread wrote:
Sisters of Silence honestly need reworking - I'm honestly surprised they weren't merged into Custodes and I'll be even more amazed if they aren't somehow absorbed into Sisters of Battle. Heck their army relies upon 1 model set only (from GW central) assuming that the rhino is just the classic design with some gold paint on it.

Their single kit is great, but they are very odd in having a whole "army" which is basically 1 sprue

Wasn't there chatter about FW producing a full 40k Talons Codex a while back?

**TheWaspinator**

Do we know if the Baneblade repackage is limited run or not?

**Snugiraffe**

Mr Morden wrote:

According to facebook:

The datasheet cards that are available to pre-order currently are the only ones that are being produced, Alistair. You can download every single datasheet for Apocalypse for free from the Warhammer 40,000:

Well thats fething rubbish

Why is that rubbish? Any half-decent printer can print the datacards you need on photo paper or thin cardstock. It's way cheaper than dishing out for cards from GW and you can resize them to suit.

**xttz**

TheWaspinator wrote:
Do we know if the Baneblade repackage is limited run or not?

It's not "while stocks last", however bigger boxed sets tend to be more likely to become direct/web-only items once sales drop off. If you're planning on getting it with discount via a 3rd-party retailer I wouldn't wait more than a few months.

**TheWaspinator**

Seems fair. Yeah, even if it's not "while stocks last", it could easily get saturated after a few months and go back to direct only.

**Kirasu**

This is it for apoc, don't expect anything else ever. The fact that they are giving away the data sheets for free should tell you the level of future energy GW will put into this.

**Kanluwen**

Kirasu wrote:
This is it for apoc, don't expect anything else ever. The fact that they are giving away the data sheets for free should tell you the level of future energy GW will put into this.

Yeah, those free warscrolls for Age of Sigmar sure did showcase just how little effort they put into the game.

**zend**

The free data sheets are just a marketing scheme though. The rules set for this is $100 and has things you’d normally find in your codex, and a normal 40k rulebook + codex is $100. You’re paying the exact same amount to get started in this as you would for regular 40k.

The only real benefit to the free datasheets is that they can be updated on the fly when things inevitably get FAQ’d.

**Spoletta**

Kirasu wrote:
This is it for apoc, don't expect anything else ever. The fact that they are giving away the data sheets for free should tell you the level of future energy GW will put into this.

Quite the opposite.
GW makes you pay for short lived projects because she just want to cash in on the impulse buy of those. Long term projects lure players in with free stuff (apoc and AoS) or cheap rules (8th indices and kill team).

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And why wouldn't they keep this up after all? They don't need to do much to support this except to give a round of FAQs here and there, the releases of 40K are automatically releases for apoc.

**TheWaspinator**

Yeah, I would hope they keep releasing data sheets for any new 40K stuff.

**Rolsheen**

They've managed to release rules for models they've never produced while at the same time fail to do rules for models which are in production and if you ask about it on their Facebook page your comment gets deleted

**Midnightdeathblade**

Picked up the rules, some dice, trays, and 3 of the CSM boxes

**Fan67**

Will there be a dedicated apoc forum on dakka?

I glanced through the rules and can’t help but notice inconsistencies.

Though I am glad my 12 Decimators will find play soon.

**BrianDavion**

Midnightdeathblade wrote:
Picked up the rules, some dice, trays, and 3 of the CSM boxes

so that's what 90 CSMs? you poor bastard, all that little trim.

**stratigo**

I feel like GW priced some units like toughness was still a thing, giving steep discounts of t3 and making t5 and 6 real expensive. Except toughness doesn't exist.

**Fan67**

stratigo wrote:
I feel like GW priced some units like toughness was still a thing, giving steep discounts of t3 and making t5 and 6 real expensive. Except toughness doesn't exist.

Have yet to find competitive infantry in apoc.
Glanced through all datasheets: vehicles ftw!

Found any peculiar OP stuff yet?

**MajorWesJanson**

Fan67 wrote:
stratigo wrote:
I feel like GW priced some units like toughness was still a thing, giving steep discounts of t3 and making t5 and 6 real expensive. Except toughness doesn't exist.

Have yet to find competitive infantry in apoc.
Glanced through all datasheets: vehicles ftw!

Found any peculiar OP stuff yet?

I'm glad that titan durability seems to have gone up proportional to normal vehicles and knights, though I wish they would fix the 40k rules for them.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Caved.

Ordered me Apocalypse, Dice and the Command Assets.

Not going to bother with the datacards though. Got my trusty iPad, and can always print off and laminate the digital ones.

**xttz**

Kirasu wrote:
This is it for apoc, don't expect anything else ever. The fact that they are giving away the data sheets for free should tell you the level of future energy GW will put into this.

The simple test for this theory will be seeing if future 40K releases get covered by Apoc datasheets. Obviously they've already done Chaos Knights so we may have to wait a little while.

**Fictional**

Rolsheen wrote:They've managed to release rules for models they've never produced while at the same time fail to do rules for models which are in production and if you ask about it on their Facebook page your comment gets deleted

Such as? I cant say Ive paid attention to everything that does and doesnt have rules.

Fan67 wrote:Have yet to find competitive infantry in apoc.
Glanced through all datasheets: vehicles ftw!

Shouldnt be entirely surprised, the game is moved 1 level up, as in from squad level to tactical overview, so infantry is cannon fodder.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Infantry are billed as Objective Scorers.

**cody.d.**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Caved.

Ordered me Apocalypse, Dice and the Command Assets.

Not going to bother with the datacards though. Got my trusty iPad, and can always print off and laminate the digital ones.

Wait, doesn't the box set come with a set of dice and a set of the command cards?

**H.B.M.C.**

The dice set comes with more dice.

The command cards are 100 cards not in the main box.

**cody.d.**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
The dice set comes with more dice.

The command cards are 100 cards not in the main box.

Though when I saw the box contents it looked like it was the same cards. At the very least the 4 cards visible on the top of the stacks were the same.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Always need more dice.

Want all the dice.

All. Of. Them.

**SamusDrake**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Always need more dice.

Want all the dice.

All. Of. Them.

Dammit, you must be stopped!