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Cheers man

Yeah thanks, I knew I saw a torso extender for the Castellan but couldn’t remember which shop had it.

A lot of Taro's stuff has the best seller label and it may sell out rather quick, though thankfully he's no slouch when it comes to regularly restocking his range.

His newest stuff, including the right-handed power fist, are back in stock.

my mate literally buys 20 rex boxes at a time and breaks them up and flogs on ebay.

says its a money doubler.

so on a small scale you can prob buy a knight for a gatling cannon and sell the rest on ebay and you'll prob end up getting all your money back.

Excuse the shameless plug but I'll be doing some Armiger/Wardog scale bits and adding to Watcorp Designs ETSY and Ebay shop at the end of week

https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/watcorpdesigns

https://www.etsy.com/uk/shop/WatcorpDesigns

I need to get me a Forgefiend to steal the Hades Autocannons from to make my dual Gatling Cannon Knight. It really is perfect for that. Unfortunately, no bits sellers have any of the Autocannons left. Weird...

I still think Freeblades should have open weapon options, allowing for dual Avenger Gatling canons. Seems weird that Chaos can still do that, but not regular Imperial Knights.

Either way, it ain't going to stop me from making Sir Blingington, the Golden Knight, with his double Avenger cannons and pure gold Knight.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I still think Freeblades should have open weapon options, allowing for dual Avenger Gatling canons. Seems weird that Chaos can still do that, but not regular Imperial Knights.

Either way, it ain't going to stop me from making Sir Blingington, the Golden Knight, with his double Avenger cannons and pure gold Knight.

does he fight along side the Shield company know as the Blingstodies?

Well, I managed to secure some Hades Autocannons bits of eBay (along with some other bits that will be good for converting more Knights). So I am looking at doing the following:

Dual Gatling Cannon Despoiler (might have Carapace Weapons for added fun)
Knight Rampager
Knight Desecrator (I might be able to cobble together a Thunderstrike Gauntlet out of the Maulerfiend fist, otherwise it is just going to have a Reaper Chainsword)
Knight Tyrant (Castellan Equivalent)
2x Wardogs (Choppy variant)

So all-around a decent setup, I think

Does anyone know if the Rampager can swap their Heavy Stubber for a Meltagun? I want this thing to be rushing up the board, and a Meltagun works better for that. I am leaning Iconoclast (despite the Despoiler getting nothing out of it).

Edit: Rampagers literally have zero options. Just 387 pts for a CC powerhouse. I guess I am fine with this.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I still think Freeblades should have open weapon options, allowing for dual Avenger Gatling canons. Seems weird that Chaos can still do that, but not regular Imperial Knights.

Either way, it ain't going to stop me from making Sir Blingington, the Golden Knight, with his double Avenger cannons and pure gold Knight.

In the fluff each knight suit's machine spirit had its own personality and weapon reference so I guess try to go against its will could prove hazardous.

Make no sense anyway, maybe the reason the knight go renegade because pilot try to put 2 avenger gatling on his suit, causing the machine spirit to go crazy, idk lol

So what's the table like for the Freeblade equivalents?

Chopstick wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I still think Freeblades should have open weapon options, allowing for dual Avenger Gatling canons. Seems weird that Chaos can still do that, but not regular Imperial Knights.

Either way, it ain't going to stop me from making Sir Blingington, the Golden Knight, with his double Avenger cannons and pure gold Knight.

In the fluff each knight suit's machine spirit had its own personality and weapon reference so I guess try to go against its will could prove hazardous.

Make no sense anyway, maybe the reason the knight go renegade because pilot try to put 2 avenger gatling on his suit, causing the machine spirit to go crazy, idk lol

I think it seems like its more often the case that a Freeblade prior to becoming a Freeblade was as a member of a Knight Household, at that time their Knight would have been equipped in one of the standard ways. Whenever they left or their Household was destroyed or whatever, it isn't like they got to go raid the armory before they left, it isn't as if those Households would allow them to reequip their Knight before the Freeblade went their own way...

It also isn't as if the Freeblade could easily acquire surplus weapons for their Knight while out on their own, and even if they could it isn't as if they would have anyone with enough understanding and willingness to then modify the Knight. Between Mechanicum and Imperial Knight households it'd likely only be the Mechanicum households that would so strictly adhere to these arming conventions unless there was something more keeping the Imperial Households from doing so. Either Imperium Loyal Sacristans can't or won't modify Knights in this way; it'd likely be some limitation of their education or an adherence to some doctrine of the machine cult and neither of those are going to change in a Sacristan just because their Scion wants leave his household.

Anyone know how this codex interacts with the FW Chaos knights from the index? (E.g. the Atropos etc) Haven't see anyone mention it in reviews

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I still think Freeblades should have open weapon options, allowing for dual Avenger Gatling canons. Seems weird that Chaos can still do that, but not regular Imperial Knights.

They seem to have elaborated more on this in the new Chaos Knight fluff.

Ordo Hereticus has produced grimoires in which war engines have been declared Questor Traitoris and subsequently redesignated. In part this is necessary because Fallen Nobles soon abandon the age-old doctrines of armament obeyed by loyalist houses, choosing instead to arm their Knights with whatever combinations of weaponry best suit their preferred methods of murder.

However, their weapons vary wildly. Gone are the traditional patterns of armaments that have served the loyalist houses for millennia. Instead, every Knight Despoiler is armed however its pilot chooses, or with whatever agglomeration of weaponry could be scavenged to outfit the war engine.

Not to say imperial knights can't side step this by getting a new datasheet (STC) with dual avengers. But currently that load out goes against imperial doctrine and mechanicus sacred STC design.

But Freeblades should be, y'know, free[/io] to smite the enemies of the Imperium on whatever manner fits [i]their fighting style.

It would be the trade-off:

1. Stick to a house, have a limited set of weapon options, but have access to various stratagems and whatnot in keeping with your House's traditions/doctrines.

2. Be a Freeblade, take what you want, but lose out on anything doctrinal/traditional, and have to make do with what you've got.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
But Freeblades should be, y'know, free[/io] to smite the enemies of the Imperium on whatever manner fits [i]their fighting style.

It would be the trade-off:

1. Stick to a house, have a limited set of weapon options, but have access to various stratagems and whatnot in keeping with your House's traditions/doctrines.

2. Be a Freeblade, take what you want, but lose out on anything doctrinal/traditional, and have to make do with what you've got.

Maybe but even a freeblade is going to fall within tradtions etc. especially Imperium wide weapons config tradtions.

But... why?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
But... why?

Just because you abadon your house, often for reasons of honour doesn't mean you're going to abandon all tradtions etc. (particualrly when doing so could get you blammed for tech ehresy)

"Thank the Throne! A knight has come to our rescue!"
"We are saved!"
"He is decimating the Ork hoards with his twin gatl... wait... twin gatling cannons? HERESY! Artillery batteries 1 through 7, commence immediate bombardment upon the friendly Knight!"
"Sir?"
"He's using weapons that he shouldn't be using! Annihilate him!"
"But he's turning the tide of the-"
"I said fire Throne-damn it!!!"

No.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
"Thank the Throne! A knight has come to our rescue!"
"We are saved!"
"He is decimating the Ork hoards with his twin gatl... wait... twin gatling cannons? HERESY! Artillery batteries 1 through 7, commence immediate bombardment upon the friendly Knight!"
"Sir?"
"He's using weapons that he shouldn't be using! Annihilate him!"
"But he's turning the tide of the-"
"I said fire Throne-damn it!!!"

No.

Why not? The Imperium is known for such dogmatic stubborn stupidity. That is the whole ending for the Death Masque game where the Imperium character basically says he would rather see the galaxy fall to Chaos than be saved if it means cooperating with an alien.
The average Imperial would rather die pure than be saved by unclean methods. The cases of limited cooperation with the alien or of flexible thinking are outlier examples, and often by those individuals in positions where flexible pragmatic thinking and a willingness to bend rules or turn a blind eye is a necessity such as Inquisitors and Rogue Traders.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
"Thank the Throne! A knight has come to our rescue!"
"We are saved!"
"He is decimating the Ork hoards with his twin gatl... wait... twin gatling cannons? HERESY! Artillery batteries 1 through 7, commence immediate bombardment upon the friendly Knight!"
"Sir?"
"He's using weapons that he shouldn't be using! Annihilate him!"
"But he's turning the tide of the-"
"I said fire Throne-damn it!!!"

No.

yeah because the Imperium of man NEVER executes people who saved the day by doing so wrong

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
"Thank the Throne! A knight has come to our rescue!"
"We are saved!"
"He is decimating the Ork hoards with his twin gatl... wait... twin gatling cannons? HERESY! Artillery batteries 1 through 7, commence immediate bombardment upon the friendly Knight!"
"Sir?"
"He's using weapons that he shouldn't be using! Annihilate him!"
"But he's turning the tide of the-"
"I said fire Throne-damn it!!!"

No.

Actually that's exactly what would happen. Although most likely after the battle had concluded in the imperium's favour. Tech heresy is still heresy. Here's an example from the new codex.

The Hatred of Krastellan, Fallen Knight of House Hawkshroud, descends upon the planet of Oumo and opens fire on the siege walls of the agri world’s capital harvester city. The Oumoans, having been granted the sworn service and protection of Hawkshroud, are caught completely by surprise. After sending an astropathic distress signal to the nearby forge world of Mezoa, they receive a reply from Tech- Priest Dominus Telemetenos Vrae ordering them to cease all such communication. Vrae informs the Oumoans that it is a logical impossibility for a Hawkshroud Knight to be attacking them, and therefore firing upon this loyal Knight would be an act of treason against the Omnissiah. This message is disseminated across the planet, and the Oumoan regiments ordered to hold their fire. Without any form of resistance, the Hatred of Krastellan tears its way through the defences of Oumo’s harvest cities one by one.

I mean entire world's have been put to death by Ordo Hereticus just for knowing knights can fall to chaos.

Sorry guys. I'll stop trying to have fun the wrong way.

 Mushkilla wrote:

The Hatred of Krastellan, Fallen Knight of House Hawkshroud, descends upon the planet of Oumo and opens fire on the siege walls of the agri world’s capital harvester city. The Oumoans, having been granted the sworn service and protection of Hawkshroud, are caught completely by surprise. After sending an astropathic distress signal to the nearby forge world of Mezoa, they receive a reply from Tech- Priest Dominus Telemetenos Vrae ordering them to cease all such communication. Vrae informs the Oumoans that it is a logical impossibility for a Hawkshroud Knight to be attacking them, and therefore firing upon this loyal Knight would be an act of treason against the Omnissiah. This message is disseminated across the planet, and the Oumoan regiments ordered to hold their fire. Without any form of resistance, the Hatred of Krastellan tears its way through the defences of Oumo’s harvest cities one by one.

Considering the Hatred of Krastellan supposedly turned against Hawkshroud and the Imperium because of outrage over being ordered to slaughter former allies and populations unable to pay their tithes due to external factors (like invasions), it seems a bit hypocritical for it to slaughter the Oumoans when they are holding fire and defenseless. Though I guess over time maybe the Knight has concluded that the entire Imperium is rotten and needs to be torn down first. Certainly the Knight seems to have decided that he should be ruler of Hawkshroud, due to the Hawkshroud rulers having proven themselves unworthy by giving orders they themselves are unwilling to carry out, rendering the whole Hawkshroud honor a lie.

Real question is, where did it get the Laser Destructor?

Same place it get the spike and the claw for the gauntlet.

Hmmmmmmmm.

I’m going in for Chaos Knights. Already got an idea bubbling away in the foetid morass that is my brain.

Don’t suppose anyone knows of any greenstuff stamps or rollers that produce ‘flayed flesh’? Because I want to cover the pauldrons of at least one knight in whole, flayed skins,

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Sorry guys. I'll stop trying to have fun the wrong way.

Who said you were having fun the wrong way? You disagreed with the fluff justification, others defended it saying they agree with the fluff justification. No one is a victim here.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Hmmmmmmmm.

I’m going in for Chaos Knights. Already got an idea bubbling away in the foetid morass that is my brain.

Don’t suppose anyone knows of any greenstuff stamps or rollers that produce ‘flayed flesh’? Because I want to cover the pauldrons of at least one knight in whole, flayed skins,

If something like that were available, I'd like to know, too. It's for purely scientific reasons, of course.

Though I think you may have to make your own molds for that. Luckily GW will be releasing good models for the tough parts, hands and faces, with the Unmade for Warcry. Then for the bodies and limbs look around for some naked models.

I really like the new kit, the modularity with the loyalist one is great. Just a few bits from it really help to make the Imperial Knight suitably Chaotic: