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Let's focus on discussing the actual item rather then attempting to "over clever" each other

This video barely helped me at all. I have been working on a Primaris only army for a while now, and I only have one Primaris Lieutenant (the Shadowspear one). I need to up my PrimeLT game as the kids are callin' it. I count on the Primaris Lieutenant Daily (been watching since episode 314) so someday I wouldn't be a 1 PrimeLT scrub.

Finally, Wade Pryce gets a guy on that says he makes Primaris Lieutenants, and all that guy wants to do is talk about dreadnoughts and snipers like not fielding an entire army of PrimeLTs isn't the way to win all of 40k and life. It gets worse as the guy barely talks any PrimeLT before storming out of there.

You know what? I bet that guy doesn't even make Primaris Lieutenants. Probably said he does so he could talk about his dumb tanks, dreadnoughts and snipers on the Daily. Whatever. I know I am eagerly awaiting episode #724!

#primelt #primarislieutenantdaily4life

JSG wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
it was ridicule.

So it was an attack...

I mean... for real?

 zedmeister wrote:
More hints:

Thanks for the close up.

Looks like a riever styled LT, a new repulsor vehicle (not many guns so likely transport or specialist vehicle), the alluded to new snipers which we know from Apoc can take las fusils, and a stripped down redemptor dread (which strangely looks like the suits from Avatar).

 buddha wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:
More hints:

Thanks for the close up.

Looks like a riever styled LT, a new repulsor vehicle (not many guns so likely transport or specialist vehicle), the alluded to new snipers which we know from Apoc can take las fusils, and a stripped down redemptor dread (which strangely looks like the suits from Avatar).

the suits from avatar where hardly unique to avatar though.the basic exoarmor is a pretty common sci-fi thingy.

I am thinking Eliminators(with the added option if Las Fusils) and Infiltrators(probably with alternate versions of the Bolt Carbine) will be regular parts-built kits. The Transport looks like it just has the weapon on the top like a Razorback. Those side projections are likely the booster engines like what are in the back with the Repulsor. I don't really see this as being a gunboat. It offers something the Repulsor does not. If it was a straight up weapon system, it would be somewhat invalidating the Repulsor. I bet it will only be able to carry Phobos and no Gravis or Fly units.

I REALLY hope that Dreadnought can infiltrate and has the No Deep Strike rule like the Phobos Captain and the Infiltrators do. It would even cooler if those huge antennas made it an even bigger radius.

Depending on what the Las Fusils can do, I will probably be getting two 3-man squads of the Eliminators. They will likely replace my Lascannon Devastators (sad day, they have been in my army since the very beginning). I am probably going to get two or three Hover Rhinos. If that Dread prevents deep strike, he will probably have a place in my army.

There is one other model in the one image that looks like it could be a character. He has a cloak or coat and maybe a tabard. Though it might just be a regular release of the Phobos Captain. The shape lines up.

even if the dread doesn't deep strike if it has a large radius of deep strike prevention it'll be handy as heck. put it in your back gunline and just be immune to deep strike!

BrianDavion wrote:
even if the dread doesn't deep strike if it has a large radius of deep strike prevention it'll be handy as heck. put it in your back gunline and just be immune to deep strike!

Yeah, that is true. Even then, it might be quicker than the standard Dread (like Contemptor speed at 9"), you could still rush it up the board turn 1 and block deep strikers from getting into the middle of the board. Regardless, if it has that deep strike blocking ability, with the base size of a Dreadnought, there isn't a dang thing getting in my backfield.

I wonder how much they will cost, as it is along with what role the units will be.

Will they have mortars? Will they be more useless HQ choices? Any Close combat squads or are we getting more shooty units that don't fit the aesthetic of 40k?

Will we finally see how a primaris chapter organizes itself?

What will the new transport have that distinguishes itself from the repulsor?

Will the new primaris come in and finally help with the close combat problem that primaris have desperately needed?

Or will we get a new heavy support choice with a minigun?

I hope that vehicle is a new, cheaper transport. Looks like a stripped back Repulsor which I'd be down with as long as it costs less points. And the dread looks like it could be cool.

Keen to see the proper reveal which I hope is soon.

 Tiberius501 wrote:
I hope that vehicle is a new, cheaper transport. Looks like a stripped back Repulsor which I'd be down with as long as it costs less points. And the dread looks like it could be cool.

Keen to see the proper reveal which I hope is soon.

The chunks sticking out from the sides are definitely NOT sponsons. The view from the picture with the hands definitely shows they are not weapons. They have flat fronts, no weapon barrels or missiles. My guess is they are the boosters like what the Repulsor has in the back. So the idea that this is a stripped down transport is pretty well on the money.

Awesome I want to keep expanding my crimson fists, currently painting a second repulsor and then I'll buying the executioner looks like I need this new stuff too and I still have a fair bit of shadowspear to paint....

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Tiberius501 wrote:
I hope that vehicle is a new, cheaper transport. Looks like a stripped back Repulsor which I'd be down with as long as it costs less points. And the dread looks like it could be cool.

Keen to see the proper reveal which I hope is soon.

The chunks sticking out from the sides are definitely NOT sponsons. The view from the picture with the hands definitely shows they are not weapons. They have flat fronts, no weapon barrels or missiles. My guess is they are the boosters like what the Repulsor has in the back. So the idea that this is a stripped down transport is pretty well on the money.

Another idea it might be, and I'm not saying I LIKE this idea, is some sort of scout vehicle. if those things are the side are jet boosters, it's a bit odd given it presuambly blocks the side doors. and it does apper to have something on top, maybe a sensor dish. so we're looking at a lighter faster version, whose parts suggest it's not optimzied for infantry carry. (although I bet it'll be capable of carrying an infantry squad) given it's release along side the vanguard, I could definatly see this being a light scout tank, sort of a space marine Salamander.

BrianDavion wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Tiberius501 wrote:
I hope that vehicle is a new, cheaper transport. Looks like a stripped back Repulsor which I'd be down with as long as it costs less points. And the dread looks like it could be cool.

Keen to see the proper reveal which I hope is soon.

The chunks sticking out from the sides are definitely NOT sponsons. The view from the picture with the hands definitely shows they are not weapons. They have flat fronts, no weapon barrels or missiles. My guess is they are the boosters like what the Repulsor has in the back. So the idea that this is a stripped down transport is pretty well on the money.

Another idea it might be, and I'm not saying I LIKE this idea, is some sort of scout vehicle. if those things are the side are jet boosters, it's a bit odd given it presuambly blocks the side doors. and it does apper to have something on top, maybe a sensor dish. so we're looking at a lighter faster version, whose parts suggest it's not optimzied for infantry carry. (although I bet it'll be capable of carrying an infantry squad) given it's release along side the vanguard, I could definatly see this being a light scout tank, sort of a space marine Salamander.

Yeah, they did a good job obscuring anything that can tell us what this thing actually can do. There are some round sections on the sides toward the front that might be some sort of door, but that would be really bizarre and out of place for a Space Marine vehicle. I see the thing you are thinking might be a radar dish on the top toward the front. I almost think that might be a pintle Gunner though. There is some sort of turret toward the back though, so this thing probably won't be lugging around ten Marines. Probably more of a Razorback type capacity.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Tiberius501 wrote:
I hope that vehicle is a new, cheaper transport. Looks like a stripped back Repulsor which I'd be down with as long as it costs less points. And the dread looks like it could be cool.

Keen to see the proper reveal which I hope is soon.

The chunks sticking out from the sides are definitely NOT sponsons. The view from the picture with the hands definitely shows they are not weapons. They have flat fronts, no weapon barrels or missiles. My guess is they are the boosters like what the Repulsor has in the back. So the idea that this is a stripped down transport is pretty well on the money.

Another idea it might be, and I'm not saying I LIKE this idea, is some sort of scout vehicle. if those things are the side are jet boosters, it's a bit odd given it presuambly blocks the side doors. and it does apper to have something on top, maybe a sensor dish. so we're looking at a lighter faster version, whose parts suggest it's not optimzied for infantry carry. (although I bet it'll be capable of carrying an infantry squad) given it's release along side the vanguard, I could definatly see this being a light scout tank, sort of a space marine Salamander.

Yeah, they did a good job obscuring anything that can tell us what this thing actually can do. There are some round sections on the sides toward the front that might be some sort of door, but that would be really bizarre and out of place for a Space Marine vehicle. I see the thing you are thinking might be a radar dish on the top toward the front. I almost think that might be a pintle Gunner though. There is some sort of turret toward the back though, so this thing probably won't be lugging around ten Marines. Probably more of a Razorback type capacity.

hard to tell really, there's really a number of options it could be we really need a better shot of it to make better guesses. course when we finally see it GW'll tell us what it is exactly so..

It doesn't make speculating and seeing other people's theories any less fun though.

The Dreadnought and the Tank are what I am most interested in. The Las Fusils are probably Str 8, AP-3, d3 or d6 damage based on their Apocalypse stats. So Eliminators don't really intrigue me.

Interested to find out more.

I’ve been contemplating a Primaris army of late, but the current offerings don’t strike me as presenting a well rounded enough force.

This release may well change that for me.

In the non blurry pic with the hands it looks like the "dread" might have a cockpit/canopy. I think it might actually be a scout Walker rather than a dread.

SeanDrake wrote:
In the non blurry pic with the hands it looks like the "dread" might have a cockpit/canopy. I think it might actually be a scout Walker rather than a dread.

that'd be differant alright.

SeanDrake wrote:
In the non blurry pic with the hands it looks like the "dread" might have a cockpit/canopy. I think it might actually be a scout Walker rather than a dread.

It has way to much of the regular Dreadnought's profile, but it certainly would work.

for the record I think it's a dread because they specificly said when the Redemptor came out that it was going to basicly the the first of a new line of dreads based off it I seem to recall them saying

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

JSG wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
it was ridicule.

So it was an attack...

I mean... for real?

Uhh... kinda, yeah? TBH I'm just salty that I can't actually buy half these minis. I also wish they'd make some chapter specific characters, but that might changed with the IH guy.

yeah I'm hoping they put the space wolf and "ultramarines" one out in independant blisterpacks.
kinda sucks that the only Lts you can walk down to a local game shop and buy are for the blood angels and dark angels.

I agree that’s what it looks like. There seems to be a whole marine sat in there, not just a bit of one.

It looks like this is the full release for the shadowspear stuff, minus the suppressors. That kind of makes sense as they aren’t in Phobos armour, I guess.

Maybe primaris will be released in themed groups a bit like the stormcast were. I think Vanguard is even the name given to the sneaky versions of both forces. So first we got the basic intercessors, who are a lot like liberators. Now we get the sneaky guys. In future we might get a bunch of heavy shooty ones, or some choppy melee types - or whatever. Maybe they’ll stick rigidly to the formula and we’ll get a bunch of holy female marines next... wait!

Mandragola wrote:
I agree that’s what it looks like. There seems to be a whole marine sat in there, not just a bit of one.

It looks like this is the full release for the shadowspear stuff, minus the suppressors. That kind of makes sense as they aren’t in Phobos armour, I guess.

Maybe primaris will be released in themed groups a bit like the stormcast were. I think Vanguard is even the name given to the sneaky versions of both forces. So first we got the basic intercessors, who are a lot like liberators. Now we get the sneaky guys. In future we might get a bunch of heavy shooty ones, or some choppy melee types - or whatever. Maybe they’ll stick rigidly to the formula and we’ll get a bunch of holy female marines next... wait!

Given the no primaris Grey Knights comments from GW I believe there will be a chamber of specialist psyker/anti-psyker primaris marines either before or after the chamber of heavy armoured/weaponry primaris and whatever the next chamber of stormcast are.

Primaris do seem to be designed around the same layout of sigmarines which Is a little ironic given they were created to be fantasy marines but now the marines are being copied from the sigmarines.

SeanDrake wrote:
Given the no primaris Grey Knights comments from GW I believe there will be a chamber of specialist psyker/anti-psyker primaris marines either before or after the chamber of heavy armoured/weaponry primaris and whatever the next chamber of stormcast are.

Obviously we'll get anti-pysker Primaris when the Silent King returns and unleashes the Necronquake.

SeanDrake wrote:
Primaris do seem to be designed around the same layout of sigmarines which Is a little ironic given they were created to be fantasy marines but now the marines are being copied from the sigmarines.

Eh, I guess if you want to see it, you'll see it. What modern Marines and Sigmarines have in common is that they are the designated hero faction that carries the setting and as such need to fill every conceivable battlefield role so as to allow every last potential customer to tailor their (Sig)Marine army to their exact preferences. There's no way to have meaningful distinction of two miniature lines if both build on the exact same design principle.

It would amuse and delight me if next year we get Adepta Sororitas Superiors.

 Geifer wrote:

SeanDrake wrote:
Given the no primaris Grey Knights comments from GW I believe there will be a chamber of specialist psyker/anti-psyker primaris marines either before or after the chamber of heavy armoured/weaponry primaris and whatever the next chamber of stormcast are.

Obviously we'll get anti-pysker Primaris when the Silent King returns and unleashes the Necronquake.

SeanDrake wrote:
Primaris do seem to be designed around the same layout of sigmarines which Is a little ironic given they were created to be fantasy marines but now the marines are being copied from the sigmarines.

Eh, I guess if you want to see it, you'll see it. What modern Marines and Sigmarines have in common is that they are the designated hero faction that carries the setting and as such need to fill every conceivable battlefield role so as to allow every last potential customer to tailor their (Sig)Marine army to their exact preferences. There's no way to have meaningful distinction of two miniature lines if both build on the exact same design principle.

Don't tease me. Necrons need a new book and we need our big boy Silent King to come back. Give us Robot Guilliman dammit.

Saw someone mention on instagram that episode 723 could be alluding to the 23rd of July as a release/preorder date. Wonder if there is any truth to that.

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Saw someone mention on instagram that episode 723 could be alluding to the 23rd of July as a release/preorder date. Wonder if there is any truth to that.

July 23rd is a Tuesday...