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Started work on the kits that came in the starter, built one of each plane so far. Quite enjoyable builds, only real complaint is a severe lack of extra big shootas to bolt onto all Ork aircraft. Not that we're going to be playing strictly WYSIWYG concerning the stuff mounted underneath the wings, but still.. pity.

 BrookM wrote:
Started work on the kits that came in the starter, built one of each plane so far. Quite enjoyable builds, only real complaint is a severe lack of extra big shootas to bolt onto all Ork aircraft. Not that we're going to be playing strictly WYSIWYG concerning the stuff mounted underneath the wings, but still.. pity.

Shoota from Flak cannon ground asset could be handy. I haven't got my hand on any of the kit to try. Probably next week, shipping to my country is usually very slow.

I also had something else in mind, Questoris heavy stubber.

I also bummed because all the wing shoota was designed to look like a snake charmer flute, might scarp off that weird screw when I got my hand on it.

Hopefully we got more extra shoota in the eavy bommer kit.

Chopstick wrote:
The marauder could've been the same kit (since you have 0 ordnance in the destroyer one) but for the other GW almost never did 2 type of completely different unit in the same kits.

The original Epic had multiple unit types on a sprue, so you'd buy a box of tanks and get a couple of land raiders, a couple of rhinos, etc etc all in the one box. This would just be the same, you buy a box of "Imperial Fighters" and get both Lightnings and Thunderbolts.


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 BrookM wrote:
Started work on the kits that came in the starter, built one of each plane so far. Quite enjoyable builds, only real complaint is a severe lack of extra big shootas to bolt onto all Ork aircraft. Not that we're going to be playing strictly WYSIWYG concerning the stuff mounted underneath the wings, but still.. pity.

It'll be interesting to see if anyone can come up with a good way of swapping out weapon options.

In previous AI I never bothered with weapon options, just put some homemade counters next to the plane to indicate if it had extra missiles / bombs / etc.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

Chopstick wrote:
The marauder could've been the same kit (since you have 0 ordnance in the destroyer one) but for the other GW almost never did 2 type of completely different unit in the same kits.

The original Epic had multiple unit types on a sprue, so you'd buy a box of tanks and get a couple of land raiders, a couple of rhinos, etc etc all in the one box. This would just be the same, you buy a box of "Imperial Fighters" and get both Lightnings and Thunderbolts.

The original Epic is 20 years ago friend, they also teach you how to paper(plasticard) craft a baneblade back then.

Chopstick wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

Chopstick wrote:
The marauder could've been the same kit (since you have 0 ordnance in the destroyer one) but for the other GW almost never did 2 type of completely different unit in the same kits.

The original Epic had multiple unit types on a sprue, so you'd buy a box of tanks and get a couple of land raiders, a couple of rhinos, etc etc all in the one box. This would just be the same, you buy a box of "Imperial Fighters" and get both Lightnings and Thunderbolts.

The original Epic is 20 years ago friend, they also teach you how to paper(plasticard) craft a baneblade back then.

It doesn’t really matter how long ago it was, GW haven’t done plastic models smaller than 28mm scale since the 90’s so there’s no real recent equivalent to draw from. It was done to have a bigger variety for less sprues. I’m not really sure what or why you seem to be arguing, I was only pointing out that it’s interesting GW didn’t try and optimise their mould machining, the natural conclusion to which is mould machining probably isn’t a large investment for them.

Probably a dumb question, but can you take duplicate weapons of the upgrades? For example, 2 pairs of skystrikes on a thunderbolt?

 greyknight12 wrote:
Probably a dumb question, but can you take duplicate weapons of the upgrades? For example, 2 pairs of skystrikes on a thunderbolt?

Sure, can't see why not. They're additional weaponry, not upgrade.

Not sure about weapon upgrade like Kustom Big Shoota though, but I assumed with the Rynn World rule (not the one from the starter) you can take as many kustom big shoota as you can.

Chopstick wrote:

 greyknight12 wrote:
Probably a dumb question, but can you take duplicate weapons of the upgrades? For example, 2 pairs of skystrikes on a thunderbolt?

Sure, can't see why not. They're additional weaponry, not upgrade.

Not sure about weapon upgrade like Kustom Big Shoota though, but I assumed with the Rynn World rule (not the one from the starter) you can take as many kustom big shoota as you can.

It depends whether you can take aircraft upgrades more than once. If you can’t, then you can only take 1 lot of Kustom Big Shootas.

Not sure if it specifies elsewhere in the rules if you can take upgrades multiple times or just once.

The rules for upgrades are on Page 65 of Rynn's World.

No aircraft can take more than two upgrades, and no upgrades can be taken twice on the same aircraft (unless the profile mentions otherwise).

Kustom Big Shootas is an upgrade, so can only be taken once per aircraft. It replaces one additional weapon.

Skystrike missiles are additional weaponry, so can be taken in multiples up to the aircraft's limit.

idespair wrote:
The rules for upgrades are on Page 65 of Rynn's World.

No aircraft can take more than two upgrades, and no upgrades can be taken twice on the same aircraft (unless the profile mentions otherwise).

Kustom Big Shootas is an upgrade, so can only be taken once per aircraft. It replaces one additional weapon.

Skystrike missiles are additional weaponry, so can be taken in multiples up to the aircraft's limit.

Nice, thanks for the head up

Just found page 27 of the starter set rule book says the same thing, that you can’t take two of the same upgrade.

Kustom Big Shootas seem a bit overpriced to me anyway, only 2 extra firepower at 5+ to damage for 3pts. I guess in this version of AI you’ll probably spend more turns shooting at something than the old AI where even the Shootas only had 5 ammo so you’d be more likely to wait for a good opening to shoot.

Old Kustom Shoota is an additional 8-4 guns that replace the aircraft loadout but add much better offensive power than any loadout, since most extra loadout are bombs and not full-on rokkit.

Is anyone else hearing rumours of a bad batch of Marauder B sprues? Specifically ones where the lascannon (parts 7&8) are malformed.

not seen any mention of it

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Is anyone else hearing rumours of a bad batch of Marauder B sprues? Specifically ones where the lascannon (parts 7&8) are malformed.

Wouldn't be hard for the rumourer to take picture of it as proof instead.

my stuff is still on the way but I hope it'll be okay

Nothing miscast on my end either, though I will say that the Marauder lascannons and the tail section require extra care when removing from the sprue, they are a bit brittle.

It may just be one or two third party suppliers affected in the end, if no-one else is seeing anything.
Did you guys get individual boxes or the WoV starter set?

It might just be a one off miscast.

If the report is on a non-gw store account it could even be an excuse from a 3rd party that didn't get enough to fulfil their orders

(either because GW shorted them or because they didn't actually order enough for whatever reason)

sorry folks we got a batch with miscasts bits, we'll send your order later might sound better than we didn't get the things

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
If the report is on a non-gw store account it could even be an excuse from a 3rd party that didn't get enough to fulfil their orders

(either because GW shorted them or because they didn't actually order enough for whatever reason)

sorry folks we got a batch with miscasts bits, we'll send your order later might sound better than we didn't get the things

Third parties are likely hesitant to tell customers they got shorted by GW these days, since if you then go into a GW store and mention what happened the manager will forcefully claim the third party store is lying. The fact that people who couldn't get it from a third party store can almost always walk into a GW and pick one off the shelf and GW's history of shorting third parties aside - a casual customer may not know about the latter or care enough to draw the obvious conclusion from the former - that could turn customers against the third party and see their potential repeat custom lost.

Easier just to give an excuse that makes it nobody's fault.

Built a Marauder, two Lightnings and a Fighta Bomma.

Only truly fiddly bit as noted earlier are on the Lightnings, and that’s the thruster/exhaust/whatevs on the end of the engine bits.

Really, really nice kits, and I can’t wait to see what comes next. With the prices being as they are, I’m thinking I can comfortably have multiple air wings for different races.

Eavy Bommer and Grot Bommer are up in November. Particularly looking forward to the latter and how they'll do the Grot bombs.

There is also that missing “C” sprue for the Marauder airframe to wonder about too… hope it’s the Colossus. I’ve been to Brooklands, I’ve seen a Grand Slam up close…

Saw a couple of how to play videos... the planes seem too damn big for the hexes?

I mean, they look cool and all but, I couldn't help but notice how much they all seemed to extend over their own hex, and how cumbersome it felt when there were planes in adjacent hexes...

Well, except for the dakkajet.

Hmm by the Way do you think they make a Canyon Map and rerelease the Mini Game "Bombers over da Sulvur River" ?...I think they already have the parts for this Scenario (Hydra Flak Anti Air, the Fighter Planes and the Bunkers)and only need the Canyon Trench Map for this Scenario ;-)

Sulphur River is mentioned in the Rynn's World air war book, but I think they'll stick to just the Rynn's World area of engagement maps for this release.

We can always hope

 Albertorius wrote:
Saw a couple of how to play videos... the planes seem too damn big for the hexes?

I mean, they look cool and all but, I couldn't help but notice how much they all seemed to extend over their own hex, and how cumbersome it felt when there were planes in adjacent hexes...

Well, except for the dakkajet.

The fighters (dakkajet and thunderbolt) aren't too bad, the marauder and fighta bommer are pretty huge.

The models are really nice on the one hand, but on the other hand I wish they hadn't increased the scale from the old AI.

I wonder if we'll see Mantas and Harbingers down the track because they're going to be absolutely massive at this scale. I imagine the Thunderhawk is going to be pretty big (or more so long) as well.

 BrookM wrote:
Sulphur River is mentioned in the Rynn's World air war book, but I think they'll stick to just the Rynn's World area of engagement maps for this release.

You can just line the two halves of the Jadeberry Hill side of the card map along their short edges rather than their long edges to get a play area 7 x 30 hexes rather than 15 x 15.

Personally I’d do a custom map with cliff walls along both sides so planes need to be at higher altitudes to fly down the flanks.

Has anybody seen the download link for these anywhere on WarCom by the way: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NL/Aeronautica-Imperialis-Exclusive-Crew-Cards-2019

These cards are only available while stocks last, and this is the only way to get them in print – digital versions can be downloaded from Warhammer-Community.com from Saturday 7th September. Order early to avoid disappointment!

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 AndrewGPaul wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Sulphur River is mentioned in the Rynn's World air war book, but I think they'll stick to just the Rynn's World area of engagement maps for this release.

You can just line the two halves of the Jadeberry Hill side of the card map along their short edges rather than their long edges to get a play area 7 x 30 hexes rather than 15 x 15.

Personally I’d do a custom map with cliff walls along both sides so planes need to be at higher altitudes to fly down the flanks.

I've been thinking of using a 7 x 30 area of engagement for the Straggler mission, but that may be a bit too sadistic for the defending player, even with a boost in maximum speed for the bomber. It would also make for a great Bombing Run map.