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frankelee wrote: I'm not getting it, but $160 for that teeny tiny playset? As long as they're okay with them still being on eBay in 2024. At $210 I think we might see a new CEO before summer.
It's Marines and a strong unit at that. Anything else and I'd agree but never underestimate the (lack of) willpower in Marine whales.
SamusDrake wrote: By what they've said so far, Pariah Nexus covers just the Indomitus Marines & Necrons. Its an expansion to add confined fighting to the core game.
Kill Team: Arena already added fighting in confined spaces to the Core game. Why should Arena owners pay twice for the same rules? The exclusive models will eventually be released separately. Don't see the draw myself.
Ancestral Hamster wrote: Kill Team: Arena already added fighting in confined spaces to the Core game. Why should Arena owners pay twice for the same rules? The exclusive models will eventually be released separately. Don't see the draw myself.
Apparently its got "new rules" for confined areas. What those rules will be is anyones guess, although...
Can the Flayed Ones make the most of the darkness to cut down their enemies?
...sounds like a new feature, but I only had the pleasure of the BSF confined rules, not the ones for Arena and Rogue Trader, so I wouldn't like to say.
Many of us were hoping for new rules, not a mediocre box. But at least brand new players have something i suppose.
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I wish they would continue to put out the Kill Team Zone sets.
I don't need another base box, I need the zone scenery ( Plus the great deal they were for at the time...)
And yeah, They are really making it hard on themselves as they continue to go back to 2015 with the jacked up prices.
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New rule usually just meant new scenario and some lame interaction with the new "terrain" aka completely worthless.
Also 2d "confined battle" Killteam is pretty much the poor-man and low budget version of the game. it'd be hilarious to charge people a lot for it, lol.
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£95 seems about right for GW currently, even though it's basically paying for the new kits with no/very little discount. If I was going to jump into Kill Team I wouldn't be going for a box with scatter terrain. In fact, not sure what's going on with Kill Team to even consider jumping in.
The Killzones might be worth picking up as I'm looking for more skirmish games with the lack of gaming.
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Biggest news there is sector fronteris is coming back!
Oh and that price looks. . . terrible for the KT starter. Wow. In fact it's pretty crazy even by GW standards. Heck I was planning on picking it up since I want both HI and flayed ones. Looks like I'll be skipping it if that price is correct. I don't need either that badly.
I suppose they justify it by including an old out of date KT rulebook plus updated rules for new models.
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Chopstick wrote: What a deal!!!!111 each troop is 50$, hero is 30$ each, you basically get the rest for FREEEE!!
Still a no buy for me though, lol.
Still on the fence about it. If it has the rules and everything I'll most likely buy it as I haven't gotten into Kill Team yet. The scatter isn't a huge draw for me, but as I am building both Necrons and Primaris the combo of models are all new to me and I can get a discount on this box just like the others. THe scatter can be base decoration or terrain elements If I don't like the system.
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The price is basically alright if you actually want to play Kill Team and don't already have the rules, board, dice, tokens, etc. As a pure miniatures box it's too much but they've never touted it as that
Still on the fence about it. If it has the rules and everything I'll most likely buy it as I haven't gotten into Kill Team yet. The scatter isn't a huge draw for me, but as I am building both Necrons and Primaris the combo of models are all new to me and I can get a discount on this box just like the others. THe scatter can be base decoration or terrain elements If I don't like the system.
You're gonna need more necron unit to actually form a team, Flayed one even with the new "buffed" profile are still pretty bad. And you don't want a flayed one to be your leader, Leader and Commander are 2 different units and leader is always required and is more important than Commander.
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omfg new kill zones, and one of them is Fronteris, this is great. As someone that's bought several KT starters and multiple Uprising / Mortalis boxes, this makes me exceedingly happy.
Well the GW Whisperers here called it at $160. They know their GeeDubs.
It's neat they're re-releasing the original Killzones, when the first two came out I thought they were going to get me for half a dozen of those boxes, but everyone after that was poor value and filled with terrain I didn't like.
Both Sector Munitorium and Sector Fronteris are returning. Good, as I missed them the first time. Will have to see how much they cost, then figure which one I want more. Leaning towards Sector Fronteris as you can only get the large building in that set, while the cranes in Sector Munitorium can be bought separately.
As for Pariah Nexus, cheaper than I thought (expected $210), but still too much for what's in the box.
@Theophony. You'll need some Immortals and Warriors, and if your group plays with Elites, a sword & board Lychguard for a tanky CC figure. Deathmarks do not seem worth it, even though they have a teleport tactic.
Chopstick wrote: What a deal!!!!111 each troop is 50$, hero is 30$ each, you basically get the rest for FREEEE!!
Still a no buy for me though, lol.
Still on the fence about it. If it has the rules and everything I'll most likely buy it as I haven't gotten into Kill Team yet. The scatter isn't a huge draw for me, but as I am building both Necrons and Primaris the combo of models are all new to me and I can get a discount on this box just like the others. THe scatter can be base decoration or terrain elements If I don't like the system.
Before you drop the money be aware that Pariah Nexus is an expansion and not a starter set. In addition you will need a copy of the Kill Team core manual, and Kill Team: Commanders to use the Captain and Chronomancer.
That aside, if you take the plunge and need more Necrons and Primaris then the 40K Recruit Edition for £32.50 is highly recommended.
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Billicus wrote: The price is basically alright if you actually want to play Kill Team and don't already have the rules, board, dice, tokens, etc. As a pure miniatures box it's too much but they've never touted it as that
It has the rules to use Indomitus models and to play indoor missions, not the rules for the game itself. They've already announced the full contents of the box and it does not include dice nor tokens.
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The kit also includes all of the rules to use the models from the Indomitus boxed set in your games of Kill Team, including Assault Intercessors and Necron Warriors armed with gauss reapers.
With models, rules, AND terrain, it’s everything you need to start playing Kill Team.
Chopstick wrote: What a deal!!!!111 each troop is 50$, hero is 30$ each, you basically get the rest for FREEEE!!
Still a no buy for me though, lol.
Still on the fence about it. If it has the rules and everything I'll most likely buy it as I haven't gotten into Kill Team yet. The scatter isn't a huge draw for me, but as I am building both Necrons and Primaris the combo of models are all new to me and I can get a discount on this box just like the others. THe scatter can be base decoration or terrain elements If I don't like the system.
Before you drop the money be aware that Pariah Nexus is an expansion and not a starter set. In addition you will need a copy of the Kill Team core manual, and Kill Team: Commanders to use the Captain and Chronomancer.
That aside, if you take the plunge and need more Necrons and Primaris then the 40K Recruit Edition for £32.50 is highly recommended.
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Billicus wrote: The price is basically alright if you actually want to play Kill Team and don't already have the rules, board, dice, tokens, etc. As a pure miniatures box it's too much but they've never touted it as that
It has the rules to use Indomitus models and to play indoor missions, not the rules for the game itself. They've already announced the full contents of the box and it does not include dice nor tokens.
The kit also includes all of the rules to use the models from the Indomitus boxed set in your games of Kill Team, including Assault Intercessors and Necron Warriors armed with gauss reapers.
With models, rules, AND terrain, it’s everything you need to start playing Kill Team.
See that’s what I thought, a starting point for new players. I bought Indomitus, two of the Elite edition and a psychomancer, so this set fits nicely into my plan.
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The kit also includes all of the rules to use the models from the Indomitus boxed set in your games of Kill Team, including Assault Intercessors and Necron Warriors armed with gauss reapers.
With models, rules, AND terrain, it’s everything you need to start playing Kill Team.
Then this...
With models, rules, AND terrain, it’s everything you need to start playing Kill Team.
...is clearly contradicting...
this expansion introduces new rules for close combat encounters in its claustrophobic depths.
...and...
While you wait, take a look at the full (and we mean FULL) contents of the boxed set.
Without the core manual its not everything one needs to play kill team, which is not shown at all. Neither are the dice and tokens.
Twice in two articles they have said that this is an expansion. They have emphasised in brackets "and we mean FULL" - using caps that we have seen all the contents of the box in the following image.
Either they have made a mistake in the revealing of the contents and its not an expansion, or in their last statement.
An expansion can still contain all the rules necessary to play that expansion as a tand-alone game. They don't say it includes everything in Kill Team, they say it includes "everything you need to start playing kill Team", which is too vague to make assumptions on.
We know it comes with the Pariah Nexus rulebook, and it's safe to presume that book includes the base KT rules and rules for at least the 2 commanders in the box, plus they specifically mention it includes rules for the Indomitus models. Beyond that, we don't know either way if this can completely replace the Core book, replace all the books, or not replace any books and you still need the old Core, Commanders and Elites for a full game, they haven't said.
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There is no reason to presume any such thing Kalamedea. No prior KT expansion has included the base KT rules. Not one of the existing expansions, i.e. Rogue Trader, Commanders, Elites or Arena, had any of the base rules. The core rulebook has always been needed.
It is not inconceivable that you could be proven right, but I find it highly unlikely. Hell, I would doubt that this book will contain all of the Space Marine and Necron data sheets. I expect it, like Commanders, Elites and the Annual, to include only the new data sheets.