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 Wolf_in_Human_Shape wrote:
It would be great if true, but that's quite a few kits for one relatively random/multifaction book. Was just curious if BrianDavion knew something we didn't.

A big thing to consider is that we do know there's a Chaos Sorcerer model that's unreleased. There was a rumor engine from awhile back that was the gargoyle headed backpack spouts.

Personally, I'm in a fair amount of agreement with Brian other than the Lucius bit. I'm thinking Chaos will see expanded rules for the Legions highlighted, a Berzerkers box, a Noise Marine box, the Sorcerer model that we've not seen yet and then maybe upgrade frames ala what the Marines got for the Legions highlighted(Alpha Legion, Iron Warriors, Word Bearers, and Night Lords).

Marine side of things, stuff for Black Templars. Guard get something. Sororitas are getting their Army Pack and Codex as a whole separate dealio.
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
 Wolf_in_Human_Shape wrote:
It would be great if true, but that's quite a few kits for one relatively random/multifaction book. Was just curious if BrianDavion knew something we didn't.

A big thing to consider is that we do know there's a Chaos Sorcerer model that's unreleased. There was a rumor engine from awhile back that was the gargoyle headed backpack spouts.


Yep, mentioned that on the previous page when I asked why he thought the other models were coming. Would LOVE for the rest of that stuff to come, as well.
   
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I don't know whether they are just meant to be fluff clues or actual clues as to upcoming models but in Phoenix Rising, there is reference to the Screaming Serpent. The Serpent is described as vast, with wings, armed with 3 swords and a whip. Sounds like Fulgrim.

A quote from an Exodite, Maegrah Worldsinger, suggests maybe Exodites are coming as well?
   
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Iracundus wrote:
I don't know whether they are just meant to be fluff clues or actual clues as to upcoming models but in Phoenix Rising, there is reference to the Screaming Serpent. The Serpent is described as vast, with wings, armed with 3 swords and a whip. Sounds like Fulgrim.

A quote from an Exodite, Maegrah Worldsinger, suggests maybe Exodites are coming as well?


Lol, great. More ridiculous animal-riding factions in a universe with world-ending technology is just what we need.
   
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 Wolf_in_Human_Shape wrote:
Iracundus wrote:
I don't know whether they are just meant to be fluff clues or actual clues as to upcoming models but in Phoenix Rising, there is reference to the Screaming Serpent. The Serpent is described as vast, with wings, armed with 3 swords and a whip. Sounds like Fulgrim.

A quote from an Exodite, Maegrah Worldsinger, suggests maybe Exodites are coming as well?


Lol, great. More ridiculous animal-riding factions in a universe with world-ending technology is just what we need.


That's basically the very essence of 40k.
   
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JSG wrote:
 Wolf_in_Human_Shape wrote:
Iracundus wrote:
I don't know whether they are just meant to be fluff clues or actual clues as to upcoming models but in Phoenix Rising, there is reference to the Screaming Serpent. The Serpent is described as vast, with wings, armed with 3 swords and a whip. Sounds like Fulgrim.

A quote from an Exodite, Maegrah Worldsinger, suggests maybe Exodites are coming as well?


Lol, great. More ridiculous animal-riding factions in a universe with world-ending technology is just what we need.


That's basically the very essence of 40k.


If 40k made sense it wouldn't be 40k.


 
   
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 Wolf_in_Human_Shape wrote:
Iracundus wrote:
I don't know whether they are just meant to be fluff clues or actual clues as to upcoming models but in Phoenix Rising, there is reference to the Screaming Serpent. The Serpent is described as vast, with wings, armed with 3 swords and a whip. Sounds like Fulgrim.

A quote from an Exodite, Maegrah Worldsinger, suggests maybe Exodites are coming as well?


Lol, great. More ridiculous animal-riding factions in a universe with world-ending technology is just what we need.


If there's one thing I can't stand in my 40k, it's all this ridiculous anachronistic sci-fantasy! Keep that oh you tea OUT of my realistic space setting.


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"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"

"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"

"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"  
   
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Only demonic mechanical bull rhinos make any sense. Come on.
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
 Wolf_in_Human_Shape wrote:
It would be great if true, but that's quite a few kits for one relatively random/multifaction book. Was just curious if BrianDavion knew something we didn't.

A big thing to consider is that we do know there's a Chaos Sorcerer model that's unreleased. There was a rumor engine from awhile back that was the gargoyle headed backpack spouts.

Personally, I'm in a fair amount of agreement with Brian other than the Lucius bit. I'm thinking Chaos will see expanded rules for the Legions highlighted, a Berzerkers box, a Noise Marine box, the Sorcerer model that we've not seen yet and then maybe upgrade frames ala what the Marines got for the Legions highlighted(Alpha Legion, Iron Warriors, Word Bearers, and Night Lords).

Marine side of things, stuff for Black Templars. Guard get something. Sororitas are getting their Army Pack and Codex as a whole separate dealio.


I'm just guessing based on what we know and carrying forward. I truthfully mentioned Lucius because we saw eldar and dark eldar get a unit type and a HQ, so I'm guessing that at most we'll see a WE and EC unit and character. the black templars upgrade frame is almost a certainty given that PA is supposed to be giving us the same rules treatment for Black templars that the first founding chapters got in their supplement.

I think it's highly likely we'll see new plastic noise marines, and hopefully bezerkers because Games Workshop doesn't seem likely to highlight those legions without updating their basic troop choice. Bezerkers are at least plastic so could be skipped, but noise marines are an ancient resin upgrade kit.

it seems like a lot of new kits, but it's not really that big. 1 upgrade it, two boxes of units. that'd be a pretty mild model release window.

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I'm always amazed how often GW has mentioned Exodites of all the sub-faction armies that we've never seen. Even the community site has mentioned them a fair few times. I can never tell if they are just seeding for conversions (seraphon) or if they are openly hinting at the future or if someone on the community staff keeps pushing for it in the hope that enough casual mentioning might get GW to make them.

OF all the Eldar updates such as Harliquins and Yinnari the Exodites would be the most exciting update in terms of releasing a totally brand new roster of models with a very unique look.

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I think if they let Jes out of his cupboard and allowed him to do something other than Primaris marines we might have actually seen them by now.

Exodites are so integral to the Eldar fluff that it's surprising they haven't been made. There are even rules for fighting on a maiden (exodite) world in the newest supplement!

Part of me doesn't want an Exodite release so I can complete my own sometime soon.

   
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From our new favorite overlord french rumor monger (Kikasstou) :

About Psychic Awakening Vol. 3 (BA vs Tyranids) :

_ Mephiston will get a new model. He is now a primaris.

About Psychic Awakening Vol. 2 :

_ Main focus is BT vs Chaos (CSM). SoB will be in it, but they are not the main focus of the book. Same goes for Imperial Guard.

_ Librarians, Chaplains and Techmarines "level 2" are making a comeback. Librarians and Chaplains know one more spell / litany and can cast one more spell / litany. Techmarines lvl 2 can repair a flat 3 damages instead of D3.

_ Access to those lvl 2 characters will work in the same manner as getting a Chapter Master or Ork Warphead. The stratagems to "upgrade" the characters will cost 1 CP.

_ All SM will have access to those lvl 2 characters (he doesn't know if SW, DA and BA will have access to Chaplains lvl 2 because they don't even know Litanies right now). He thinks it is only for SM and CSM will not have access to something similar but he's not sure.

_ BT cannot use IF stratagems / warlord traits / etc. PA2 will pretty much be its own supplement for BT : super-doctrine, warlord traits, relics, stratagems and their very own Litanies. He doesn't know if there will be any new model for BT (it was confirmed to him that there will be NO Primaris version or new model for Hellbrecht, Grimaldus and the Emperor's Champion).

_ Don't expect a lot of new models in general. There might be a new Chaos Sorcerer though.
   
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Keen for upgraded libbies etc, especially if that is translated into better Sorcerers & Dark Apostles.

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 Overread wrote:
I'm always amazed how often GW has mentioned Exodites of all the sub-faction armies that we've never seen. Even the community site has mentioned them a fair few times. I can never tell if they are just seeding for conversions (seraphon) or if they are openly hinting at the future or if someone on the community staff keeps pushing for it in the hope that enough casual mentioning might get GW to make them.

OF all the Eldar updates such as Harliquins and Yinnari the Exodites would be the most exciting update in terms of releasing a totally brand new roster of models with a very unique look.


Well today's taunting is a Corsair-focused story.


And the mere hint of 'not-quite humans' altered by a Haemonculus.

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What a lovely new way to be disappointed. My half ass Vigilus style update that doesn't fix the worst faction rules in the game gets to share a book with yet another Marine super charging.

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 Eldarain wrote:
What a lovely new way to be disappointed. My half ass Vigilus style update that doesn't fix the worst faction rules in the game gets to share a book with yet another Marine super charging.


I did not know Grey Knights were in it?

Your last point is especially laughable and comical, because not only the 7th ed Valkyrie shown dumber things (like being able to throw the troopers without parachutes out of its hatches, no harm done) - Irbis 
   
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SeanDrake wrote:
 Eldarain wrote:
What a lovely new way to be disappointed. My half ass Vigilus style update that doesn't fix the worst faction rules in the game gets to share a book with yet another Marine super charging.


I did not know Grey Knights were in it?


I'm super hoping for another rule in it like the Daemon codex has that specifically calls out Grey Knights and beats the horse dead for no reason.
   
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Selfcontrol wrote:
From our new favorite overlord french rumor monger (Kikasstou) :

He doesn't know if there will be any new model for BT (it was confirmed to him that there will be NO Primaris version or new model for Hellbrecht, Grimaldus and the Emperor's Champion).

Wait what????
... wasn't it speculated by another french that Echamp was getting a primaris overhaul????
   
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SeanDrake wrote:
 Eldarain wrote:
What a lovely new way to be disappointed. My half ass Vigilus style update that doesn't fix the worst faction rules in the game gets to share a book with yet another Marine super charging.


I did not know Grey Knights were in it?

Despite being terrible they get my Legion Trait added on as a bonus.

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Mephiston getting a new model is the first special character I'm kind of excited about. I don't care if he gets primarisized but I hope they keep his distinctive vampire lord armor as a Mk X variant and not screw it up by changing it to the chunkier gravis one.

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Voss wrote:
 Overread wrote:
I'm always amazed how often GW has mentioned Exodites of all the sub-faction armies that we've never seen. Even the community site has mentioned them a fair few times. I can never tell if they are just seeding for conversions (seraphon) or if they are openly hinting at the future or if someone on the community staff keeps pushing for it in the hope that enough casual mentioning might get GW to make them.

OF all the Eldar updates such as Harliquins and Yinnari the Exodites would be the most exciting update in terms of releasing a totally brand new roster of models with a very unique look.


Well today's taunting is a Corsair-focused story.


And the mere hint of 'not-quite humans' altered by a Haemonculus.


Emperor's Children / Fabius do have history in learning from/working with the Covens...and the latter does like his new breeds of enhanced humans.

Enhanced humans would be an interesting new unit for Choas - and certainly a welcome change from the endless Marine releases every single week.

Love to see plastic corsairs or exodites.

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Hell-O! Corsairs. That could be a way to start a proper Ynnari faction--and maybe update the Guardians sprue...
   
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Corsairs, Harliquins and Ynnari would make for a solid Codex.

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SamusDrake wrote:
Corsairs, Harliquins and Ynnari would make for a solid Codex.


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I'd pay for that movie
And that codex .

And i am not a fan of space elfs

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Selfcontrol wrote:
From our new favorite overlord french rumor monger (Kikasstou) :

About Psychic Awakening Vol. 3 (BA vs Tyranids) :

_ Mephiston will get a new model. He is now a primaris.

About Psychic Awakening Vol. 2 :

_ Main focus is BT vs Chaos (CSM). SoB will be in it, but they are not the main focus of the book. Same goes for Imperial Guard.

_ Librarians, Chaplains and Techmarines "level 2" are making a comeback. Librarians and Chaplains know one more spell / litany and can cast one more spell / litany. Techmarines lvl 2 can repair a flat 3 damages instead of D3.

_ Access to those lvl 2 characters will work in the same manner as getting a Chapter Master or Ork Warphead. The stratagems to "upgrade" the characters will cost 1 CP.

_ All SM will have access to those lvl 2 characters (he doesn't know if SW, DA and BA will have access to Chaplains lvl 2 because they don't even know Litanies right now). He thinks it is only for SM and CSM will not have access to something similar but he's not sure.

_ BT cannot use IF stratagems / warlord traits / etc. PA2 will pretty much be its own supplement for BT : super-doctrine, warlord traits, relics, stratagems and their very own Litanies. He doesn't know if there will be any new model for BT (it was confirmed to him that there will be NO Primaris version or new model for Hellbrecht, Grimaldus and the Emperor's Champion).

_ Don't expect a lot of new models in general. There might be a new Chaos Sorcerer though.


I can belive this change. in the blood ravens index article they had a trait called "chief libarian" that basicly did exactly that. and I always thought it odd that we didn't see it in the space marine codex given blood ravens where clearly a cheeky little preview of the codex. So it'll proably be chief libby, cheif reclusiarch and master of the forge

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It's possible that in that short story, the corsair saw what he thought was a haemonculus but was in fact some sort of flesh crafter of the emperor's children, like Fabius Bile. They share themes, like flesh crafted coats, big mechanical surgical tools on their backs/arms etc, pale skin and gaunt faces.

It'll be interesting to see what actually comes out. My expectations are low, just like they were for the first psychic awakening, and so far I haven't been disappointed.
   
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Kinda annoying that they'd release codexes, just to release new stuff for space marines several months later. Especially since it's more of an upgrade than an actual new model.
   
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GaroRobe wrote:
Kinda annoying that they'd release codexes, just to release new stuff for space marines several months later. Especially since it's more of an upgrade than an actual new model.


Agreed. but they gotta get Marine players somehow I guess, if they only put stuff out for black templars in PA they run the risk of not getting their largest audiance for PA. which could indeed be problematic for their bottem line

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