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Likely? Everyone and noone. I wouldn't be shocked if he gets the "Unaligned" keyword, like the Spindledrones. Worth mentioning that the Zoat isn't a "generic" from what was being said, he's a specific individual called "The Archivist".
Interesting. So how does taking an "unaligned " unit affect detachments?
Likely? Everyone and noone. I wouldn't be shocked if he gets the "Unaligned" keyword, like the Spindledrones. Worth mentioning that the Zoat isn't a "generic" from what was being said, he's a specific individual called "The Archivist".
Interesting. So how does taking an "unaligned " unit affect detachments?
Same way it affects the DREADED Ambull.. by making it a detachment that sits on your shelf since you dont have any matching keywords for a HQ choice.
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Likely? Everyone and noone. I wouldn't be shocked if he gets the "Unaligned" keyword, like the Spindledrones. Worth mentioning that the Zoat isn't a "generic" from what was being said, he's a specific individual called "The Archivist".
Interesting. So how does taking an "unaligned " unit affect detachments?
usually it doesn't, it's the same thing as taking a fortification, as those are usually unaligned as well. I think the one exception is that the new Space Marine doctrines might get gimped.
Likely? Everyone and noone. I wouldn't be shocked if he gets the "Unaligned" keyword, like the Spindledrones. Worth mentioning that the Zoat isn't a "generic" from what was being said, he's a specific individual called "The Archivist".
Interesting. So how does taking an "unaligned " unit affect detachments?
Same way it affects the DREADED Ambull.. by making it a detachment that sits on your shelf since you dont have any matching keywords for a HQ choice.
You're still battleforged if you include unaligned models
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Likely? Everyone and noone. I wouldn't be shocked if he gets the "Unaligned" keyword, like the Spindledrones. Worth mentioning that the Zoat isn't a "generic" from what was being said, he's a specific individual called "The Archivist".
Interesting. So how does taking an "unaligned " unit affect detachments?
usually it doesn't, it's the same thing as taking a fortification, as those are usually unaligned as well. I think the one exception is that the new Space Marine doctrines might get gimped.
Likely? Everyone and noone. I wouldn't be shocked if he gets the "Unaligned" keyword, like the Spindledrones. Worth mentioning that the Zoat isn't a "generic" from what was being said, he's a specific individual called "The Archivist".
Interesting. So how does taking an "unaligned " unit affect detachments?
Same way it affects the DREADED Ambull.. by making it a detachment that sits on your shelf since you dont have any matching keywords for a HQ choice.
You're still battleforged if you include unaligned models
So what? That's not what I was talking about. Being battle forged still means you need valid detachments and detachments need to share keywords. Like I said, there are no unaligned HQ's which means there are no valid unaligned detachments (besides fortifications and the terrible auxiliary one) unless the units share another keyword with units in another detachment.
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All of the units in a matched play army, with the exception of those that are UNALIGNED, must have at least one Faction keyword in common (e.g. IMPERIUM or CHAOS), even though they may be in different Detachments
So you can place an UNALIGNED model in an Auxiliary Support Detachment and still have a Battle-forged army. So while it's true that field them in a different detachment I feel that was intentional on GW's part.
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An Actual Englishman wrote: The statement GW made when they announced the PA4-6 titles does not necessarily mean those books will include only 1 new model. We don’t know this to be the case at all.
I think it's worth while examining who got what when to illustrate.
PA1: Eldar: 1 special character and 1 unit, Dark Eldar: 1 special character and 1 unit. (locked in a box)
PA2: Chaos Space Marines: 1 HQ. Sisters of battle Box.
PA3: Blood Angels: Special Character. Blood Angels also get full datasheets for the new Primaris Stuff
PA4: Dark Angels: Special Character Dark Angels also get full datasheets for the new Primaris stuff
PA5: Tau: Special Character (nothing else known so likely nothing else. although maybe we'll get the Kellermorph)
PA?: Engine War: Admech are likely to get a considerable number of new units
PA? Saga of the Beast: Ghazakull
while the norm is for just one new character yes, it's worth noting that GW has taken the oppertunity to expand 2 armies (3 assuming the predictions of Engine war are correct) considerably.
Thus we should not EXPECT more then a single model per book, but we should not dismiss the possiability
Since when does 1 HQ and 1 5 man unit amount to a "considerable expansion"?
I was refering to DA, BA and Admech, true GW didn't put out any new minis for DAs and BAs but they're clearly willing to devote considerable page count to giving an army a big update if they have to
Yes, from a rules stand point I'd agree, though you could argue to 3 armies already considerably expanded with BA, DA and BT. Your meaning was very confusing though as you were talking about both models and rules without clear distinction.
I am very aware of how much of a pedant I am being here, however it still stands. The DA got 2 releases in PA actually, a special character and a generic Primaris master model, so two data slate choices.
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If we are already nit-picking, it would be one special character and a wargear option for the generic primaris master
7 Ork facts people always get wrong: Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other. A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot. Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests. Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books. Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor. Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers. Orks do not have the power of believe.
New PA teaser is up. Looks like this PA book is shifting more and more towards an Imperium focus, which is making me increasingly more disappointed with what will be in it. Definitely some salt involved in this opinion.
Dracarys wrote: New PA teaser is up. Looks like this PA book is shifting more and more towards an Imperium focus, which is making me increasingly more disappointed with what will be in it. Definitely some salt involved in this opinion.
Or it's them showcasing one of the three factions coming in the book, which is the Imperial Guard?
We had a three-pronged video released that showed the Tau's spiel, the Imperium's spiel, and the Genestealer Cult spiel.
We also know that the model for the book is Shadowsun, not Guard related.
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the gnerally speaking 40k uses the IoM side of things as their narrative point of view, that's just normal given humans are, and should be, eaisest to understand
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
Dracarys wrote: New PA teaser is up. Looks like this PA book is shifting more and more towards an Imperium focus, which is making me increasingly more disappointed with what will be in it. Definitely some salt involved in this opinion.
What are the chances that the Ghyrson Starn kellermorph model from kill team will get released with this book? If he does then maybe the Tech-Priest Manipulus Balphamus Vaulk figure will return in April.
I'd say we've got good chances on both of those getting released alongside their books. The Killteam sets stopped being sold, despite stock being available for the AdMech one, rather suddenly--with them actually being pulled off the GW webstore last month.
Anybody remember what some of the more reliable rumors were saying about wolves in Saga of the beast and potential return of Russ? Really itching to hear anything about SOTB honestly.
Dreamchild wrote: Anybody remember what some of the more reliable rumors were saying about wolves in Saga of the beast and potential return of Russ? Really itching to hear anything about SOTB honestly.
I don’t think there were any reliable rumours of Russ returning in Saga of the Beast.
Dreamchild wrote: Anybody remember what some of the more reliable rumors were saying about wolves in Saga of the beast and potential return of Russ? Really itching to hear anything about SOTB honestly.
I don’t think there were any reliable rumours of Russ returning in Saga of the Beast.
how could Russ(or any other primarch)come back since PA happens during the indomitus crusade & there has been zero mention of anyone besides robot.
Dreamchild wrote: Anybody remember what some of the more reliable rumors were saying about wolves in Saga of the beast and potential return of Russ? Really itching to hear anything about SOTB honestly.
I don’t think there were any reliable rumours of Russ returning in Saga of the Beast.
how could Russ(or any other primarch)come back since PA happens during the indomitus crusade & there has been zero mention of anyone besides robot.
I’m pretty sure psychic awakening is happening in current events.
Dreamchild wrote: Anybody remember what some of the more reliable rumors were saying about wolves in Saga of the beast and potential return of Russ? Really itching to hear anything about SOTB honestly.
I don’t think there were any reliable rumours of Russ returning in Saga of the Beast.
how could Russ(or any other primarch)come back since PA happens during the indomitus crusade & there has been zero mention of anyone besides robot.
I’m pretty sure psychic awakening is happening in current events.
according to GW its during the Indom crusade & PA is just filling in the details/minutiae.
If 9th end comes, it comes at the of the Psychic Awakening and GW launches the next 'Chapter' of 40K if we follow the pattern set by Age of Sigmar.
Previously I could have believed an Ork vs SW set might have been the one to launch the updated edition, but with Enginewar now on the horizon that makes less sense.
PA 6 getting a set like PA 1 got though? Two characters and an extra unit for Orks or something like that? Seems simple enough to have been the original plan which may have leaked out in the earliest PA rumours - but whether that survived the outcry over new Pheonix lords being limited to army boxes I don't know.
Dreamchild wrote: Anybody remember what some of the more reliable rumors were saying about wolves in Saga of the beast and potential return of Russ? Really itching to hear anything about SOTB honestly.
I don’t think there were any reliable rumours of Russ returning in Saga of the Beast.
how could Russ(or any other primarch)come back since PA happens during the indomitus crusade & there has been zero mention of anyone besides robot.
I’m pretty sure psychic awakening is happening in current events.
according to GW its during the Indom crusade & PA is just filling in the details/minutiae.
except one of the books is clearly set later on.
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
That's crazy. I've read the fluff very carefully since 2E and every single major event happens simultaneously in the year 40,999.
The various battles for Armeggedon? The Babab War?
Ghaz/Ragnar may not appear in a boxed set.
Much rather have another Ork Character and do a proper Primarch style release for the new era's Ghaz.... Him versus Angron on Armeggedon maybe.
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"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
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