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So, after the 5th straight youtube advertisement for Jedi's Creed: Fallen Arkham the video game, it occurred to me how... nonstop... Star Wars nonsense is going to be for the next two to three months.

The Mandolorian is going to kick things off in a couple days, roll right into the game coverage starting Thursday and then steamroll right o the next film.
And since the shopping season is kicking off early this year, good luck to any parents, you'll never see the end of the toys. And the rest of us will have to deal with the avalanche of displays and endcaps everytime we're in a big box store, Target or Walmart.

Its going to be freaking non-stop until at least the new year.

*giggles*
I just read some random news story suggesting a rumor that Disney CEO Bob Iger had George Lucas come in to do some reworking of things to "save" the movie.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
*giggles*
I just read some random news story suggesting a rumor that Disney CEO Bob Iger had George Lucas come in to do some reworking of things to "save" the movie.

The original source of that newest rumor (spoilered below with the rumor) is a youtuber of questionable veracity. He's entertaining for sure and definitely an outllandish character but his track record with secret sources feeding him what he wants to happen (and that is probably the most generous interpretation) is spotty at best. His "sources" told him for months that Star Trek Discovery wasn't getting a third season and then STD was renewed. I thought about posting the info here in the thread earlier this weekend but decided against it. While multiple reshoots could explain the wide range of rumors reporting a movie that is still in flux over the past month, it also could mean that people are just posting random guesses to see what sticks.

 warboss wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
*giggles*
I just read some random news story suggesting a rumor that Disney CEO Bob Iger had George Lucas come in to do some reworking of things to "save" the movie.

The original source of that newest rumor (spoilered below with the rumor) is a youtuber of questionable veracity. He's entertaining for sure and definitely an outllandish character but his track record with secret sources feeding him what he wants to happen (and that is probably the most generous interpretation) is spotty at best. His "sources" told him for months that Star Trek Discovery wasn't getting a third season and then STD was renewed. I thought about posting the info here in the thread earlier this weekend but decided against it. While multiple reshoots could explain the wide range of rumors reporting a movie that is still in flux over the past month, it also could mean that people are just posting random guesses to see what sticks.

Spoiler:

According to Doomcock/OverlordDVD, supposedly a secret new previously unknown skywalker is going to come out of the woodwork instead of the previous rumor that Rey will just adopt the Skywalker name and move to Tatooine). That's supposedly the new rumor and addition that Lucas reportedly made after poor testscreenings of the JJ version.

In that guy's defense, he does flat out say that these things are a rumor, and to take them with some degree of skepticism. It's not like the dude is perpetuating it as a gospel truth.

As much as I like the original movies if Lucas is your secret weapon to save your movies from JJ and the Halfwit your probably all ready fethed.

SeanDrake wrote:
As much as I like the original movies if Lucas is your secret weapon to save your movies from JJ and the Halfwit your probably all ready fethed.

Not necessarily. Lucas makes good Star Wars when he has a competent director. You only get the Prequels when he's left unchecked.

Or, and I’m not going out on a limb with this one....he’s guest directing a scene, as Tarantino did in Sin City.

But hey, online commentator bias confirmation.

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:

In that guy's defense, he does flat out say that these things are a rumor, and to take them with some degree of skepticism. It's not like the dude is perpetuating it as a gospel truth.

Most definitely he stresses it now. It wasn't stressed so much until he got some egg on his mask after the predicting doom and gloom for STD for months and then having it renewed anyways. Either way, classifying it as a rumor isn't a get out of jail free card regardless. Don't get me wrong as I actually agree with many (not all but many) of his points regarding pop culture nowadays but I take super double secret anonymous source rumor reporting as a 50/50 mix of wishful thinking and mean girl gossip now instead of actually from a "reliable source" until proven otherwise. YMMV and you're free to attribute as much or as little accuracy to the rumors as you wish. At this point, the cynic community on youtube has reported so many different conflicting rumors over the past three months that one of them is bound to be true in some small part simply by the infinite monkey theorem.

Run time confirmed to be 2h 21m

Got my midnight showing booked, in the posh seats and 3D at that.

Opinions will vary, but I’m hyped. And not long at all to go.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Run time confirmed to be 2h 21m

Got my midnight showing booked, in the posh seats and 3D at that.

Opinions will vary, but I’m hyped. And not long at all to go.

Don't have our tickets yet (usually don't have any issues getting opening tickets in my area), but otherwise my boys and I are ready:

With Disney+ and this being the "final" Skywalker movie, it seems likely that this may be the last big SW theater event for quite some time, so we intend to make a showing

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The latest teaser with Daisy Ridley has already retroactively made the ST better.


I now am quite certain no one was trying to tell me Rey was dealing with dark bouts of rage whenever she had action scenes. That's just the face she makes when doing something action-y.

 Scrabb wrote:
The latest teaser with Daisy Ridley has already retroactively made the ST better.


I now am quite certain no one was trying to tell me Rey was dealing with dark bouts of rage whenever she had action scenes. That's just the face she makes when doing something action-y.

Or algebra.


You should see the face she makes reading Finnegan's Wake.

Rey needs to have a rap-battle with the Emperor. Will forgive anything if they do that one...little...thing.

SamusDrake wrote:
Rey needs to have a rap-battle with the Emperor. Will forgive anything if they do that one...little...thing.

Robot Chicken hasn't already done this?

Watched the latest trailer/TV spot last night and it was an improvement over the previous ones IMO. I have one main issue with it but overall it was an enjoyable 30 second watch and the humor was enjoyable (and the jet pack troopers were cool). My only "complaint" would be that the bikes were wheeled. In a universe where even moisture farmers on backwater planets like tatooine have access to hover vehicles and only the vermin of the galaxy like Jawas use ground based movement, it felt jarring to see the First Order that can afford to "hold my beer" the old Empire's Death Star moons with a whole planet laser not have skimmers as well. It's a nitpick admittedly but it broke my immersion somewhat. I've seen some complaints about the jetpacks as well but I've have no issues with that given Fett's canon and various EU clone/Storm trooper jet packs for 25+ years. Regardless, it was an improvement over space horsies charging across a Star Destroyers and the "remember all this nostalgia!? Hey, I know we said let the past die and kill it but we were totes kidding!" trailers.

Well, tracked rather than wheeled

With one track! I hope they only have to chase the characters from Prometheus.

SamusDrake wrote:
Rey needs to have a rap-battle with the Emperor. Will forgive anything if they do that one...little...thing.

I'm not sure a mutual 'Who are you and why should either of us care?' really makes for a good rap.

 warboss wrote:
Hey, I know we said let the past die and kill it but we were totes kidding!" trailers.

Seriously, can we please stop parroting this line as if it was ever a Disney corporate strategy? Kylo Ren is a character in a movie, not the head of Lucasfilm.


Meanwhile, I suspect that the bikes are simply the result of someone coming up with a cool looking design. Although I'm sure an in - universe explanation as to why they were a better option than speeder bikes in that situation will be along sooner or later.

Voss wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
Rey needs to have a rap-battle with the Emperor. Will forgive anything if they do that one...little...thing.

I'm not sure a mutual 'Who are you and why should either of us care?' really makes for a good rap.

Dude, the guy's new crib is the Fortress of friggin Solitude! And she lives in a wreaked walker on a desert planet!

My boy Palpatine is totally going to give her stick on that alone...


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 LunarSol wrote:

Robot Chicken hasn't already done this?

"Yo! Moma fight!"

Bloody brilliant sketch.

 insaniak wrote:

 warboss wrote:
Hey, I know we said let the past die and kill it but we were totes kidding!" trailers.

Seriously, can we please stop parroting this line as if it was ever a Disney corporate strategy? Kylo Ren is a character in a movie, not the head of Lucasfilm.

If the shoe fits...

Meanwhile, I suspect that the bikes are simply the result of someone coming up with a cool looking design. Although I'm sure an in - universe explanation as to why they were a better option than speeder bikes in that situation will be along sooner or later.

Sure, they're a cool design and I'd be fine with seeing them in the next Batman movie or a dystopian cyberpunk film. I'm sure there CAN be a reason why they're used by the major power in the universe with seemingly unlimited resources instead of the long standing history of hover/anti-grav vehicles but the same can be said for introducing Ewoks with shaped designs on their bellies that shoot out force powers. For me, they're an unnecessary problem in search of a solution. It's be a different story if the rebellion/resistance was instead using them seeing as how they got reduced to a dozen people on one (or two?) ships since they'd be scrounging for resources at that point and couldn't afford to be picky.


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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
With one track! I hope they only have to chase the characters from Prometheus.

I'll have to rewatch it then. I thought it was one giant wheel like the most recent batcycle but I'll admit I didn't freeze frame it to inspect it. Regardless, I'd have preferred a more typical hover (or anti-grav?) vehicle.

 warboss wrote:
. I'm sure there CAN be a reason why they're used by the major power in the universe with seemingly unlimited resources instead of the long standing history of hover/anti-grav vehicles..

And that reason can simply be that they use a variety of different equipment to suit the specific environment.

Maybe that planet has dust that messes up speeder engines, making tracked vehicles more practical. Maybe speeders aren't stable enough for the jetpack launch device. Maybe the local garrison commander just really likes that particular bike, or gets kickbacks from the manufacturer.

For all their use of anti grav, the empire also used walkers and tracked vehicles in the past, so this is hardly particularly revolutionary.

Seriously, details like this are only immersion breaking if you choose to look at them as something wrong rather than as something that just hasn't been explained.

There is a toy called the treadspeeder for sale now in all fine establishments. But yeah, treadspeeder. Tread. Speeder. In a universe where everything has repulsorlifts.


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On closer inspection, the back half floats in the air.


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To relate that pick to the hobby, I propose gluing two of them back to back to make a Kawasaki Taurox, and two Kawasaki Tauroxes (Tauroxen?) on each side of a paw patrol vehicle to make a Taurox Deluxe.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
There is a toy called the treadspeeder for sale now in all fine establishments. But yeah, treadspeeder. Tread. Speeder. In a universe where everything has repulsorlifts.

Part of what makes the Star Wars universe interesting (for me, at least) is the very wide variety of different technologies employed by the various factions for different situations.From the looks of it, the treadspeeder is basically just a speeder bike that uses a tread for motive force instead of a jet engine. And within the scope of the weird and wacky designs we've seen from Star Wars from its inception, that seems fine to me.

What is that TIE tread vehicle from? I can’t stop laughing.

I know this risks getting into a debate, but I find the AT-AT to have a much slighter ridiculous factor than the treadspeeder or TIE Tread. Like, orders of magnitude less. There’s a difference between “rule of cool” and “totally stupid” for me.




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Still wondering how that treadspeeder turns. Does the rider lean hard on the absolutely nothing under him to dig it harder into the ground on one side?

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
What is that TIE tread vehicle from? I can’t stop laughing.

It's a TIE Crawler. Introduced, I think, originally in some very old and now 'Legends' status comics, but still canon, apparently.

Still wondering how that treadspeeder turns. Does the rider lean hard on the absolutely nothing under him to dig it harder into the ground on one side?

Turn? That betrays a disturbing lack of focus on the task at hand. We're going that way, trooper!

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

Still wondering how that treadspeeder turns. Does the rider lean hard on the absolutely nothing under him to dig it harder into the ground on one side?

Well..you saved me a rewatch! I'd say the name is pretty definitive, lol. As for turning, I suppose the rocket booster on back could be used to turn it if vectored with or without a jump. There looks to be a potential joint/point of articulation under the hood (or bonnet for you commonwealthers!) Between the tread and the rest could assist with that.

It's happening Friday! Although, I'll be going on Saturday morning (always less crowded) So far I've been doing well to avoid Spoilers (which I normally actively seek out, but this time I want to enjoy the surprise)

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Being in the UK, I get to see it 00:01 Thursday morning.

I’m working from home after, so no need to then get up at Idiot O’Clock to commute.

Very, very much looking forward to this. Wee bit cautious over red eyed 3PO based on the toy, where he’s got Chewie’s bandolier and Bowcaster. But we know they’ve fibbed via toys before (such as no sign of Lightsaber wielding Rey in the initial release for TFA).

And I will of course refuse to post any kind of spoiler, tagged or not, until it’s on proper worldwide general release.

Thursday. 4DX. Lunch time...

...so lets man our seats...and may the Force be with us!