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 Grimtuff wrote:
Sooo.... looking through a few of the SM ones, it appears the WHW exclusive tanks have been moved to Legends. Quite odd seeing as they sell the product (albeit only at one location). I was under the impression this was for stuff that was OOP.

It's more broadly for things that were in an index, but are not in a codex or updated index. Most things got cut because they are OOP, but some of that is super recent. for example, the original Mephiston is in Legends despite the primaris model still being on preorder.

 LunarSol wrote:
Mangler Squigs got Legended? That seems completely bizarre given the new kit and the fact its part of two battalions.

They're both normal AoS and Legends. The Legends version is for the old O&G army (as that whole army got Legend-ed), just so everything is represented. You can still take them in a Gloomspite army.

No more Razorbacks with heavy flamers or lascannon with twin plasma.

OrkPlayer137 wrote:
No more Razorbacks with heavy flamers.

We call it the immolator

OrkPlayer137 wrote:
No more Razorbacks with heavy flamers or lascannon with twin plasma.

lascannon twin plas is legit old school. I had a few with my first space marine army.

A standard warboss in mega armor is going to legends, wtf?
srsly, wtf... so strange.

Thought it was going to be re-releases of the miniatures, but nevermind. Thats a cool looking Autarch model...

and the null rod. holy update.
srsly, why not simply add this to a new book?
humanity is lost.


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yeah i have an autarch with a warp generator on magnets, also with hawk wings on magnets, ...

Well those who still have Rough Riders will be happy.

Cheers,

CB

SamusDrake wrote:
Thought it was going to be re-releases of the miniatures, but nevermind. Thats a cool looking Autarch model...

but on that page of the Craftworld PDF there is a pic of an avatar for some reason...

 techsoldaten wrote:
No Doomrider. The ultimate legend and they chose to ignore him.

*sigh* Maybe this means we will see him in an upcoming release.

Gw will never be that cool again.

Although we did ge a noise marine with a guitar-bolter so....

SamusDrake wrote:
Thought it was going to be re-releases of the miniatures, but nevermind. Thats a cool looking Autarch model...

Said Autarch mini used in the article was a limited edition one from the Eldar army box circa 4th ed.

Crispy78 wrote:
Part of me is a little disappointed that things like DE characters aren't listed. But a big part of me is pleasantly surprised that it's a free download rather than a paid-for book...

I'm not sure why you thought that would be a thing, those characters haven't had rules since the very start of 7th. The whole point of Legends is to move old index options to an easy to access place, not create new rules for units we lst well before 8th.

 Polonius wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Was hoping for more character-wise, like Macharius and Gaunt, but hopefully in the future we may see them return.

I think it would be cool as well, but I'm not sure it meshes will with their overall approach of preserving index rules. Macharius hasn't had rules since IIRC the first 3rd edition, IG book and Gaunt lost his from the 3rd edition book in 5th edition.

Actually they did update his rules as a download (along with Nork) right after the 5th edition codex dropped. I loved that as I could whip him out once again. Still hoping that one day they will do rules for the 12 Schafer's Last Chancers as a stand-alone army with tons of special rules.

 Trimarius wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:
Mangler Squigs got Legended? That seems completely bizarre given the new kit and the fact its part of two battalions.

They're both normal AoS and Legends. The Legends version is for the old O&G army (as that whole army got Legend-ed), just so everything is represented. You can still take them in a Gloomspite army.

Ah, got it. I hadn't bothered to look at the keywords. Mentally I saw the PDF as a collection of units from armies containing those kinds of models.

changemod wrote:
No Necrons? We’re missing a ton of things,

A lot of the other pdfs seem really anaemic too.

I would kill to have Pariahs back. Sure we can proxy them as other things.... but it's just not the same.

 Grimtuff wrote:
Sooo.... looking through a few of the SM ones, it appears the WHW exclusive tanks have been moved to Legends. Quite odd seeing as they sell the product (albeit only at one location). I was under the impression this was for stuff that was OOP.

Makes sense to me. Including that stuff in the first place did nothing but confuse people when the indexes came out.
It isn't something most people have, and all it did was raise questions about the 'Rhino Primaris' not being able to carry Primaris marines.

 Grimtuff wrote:
Sooo.... looking through a few of the SM ones, it appears the WHW exclusive tanks have been moved to Legends. Quite odd seeing as they sell the product (albeit only at one location). I was under the impression this was for stuff that was OOP.

I have a sneaking suspicion they didn't tell the intern writing this about them and he/she/it only checked the website.

So, Legion of the Damned is squat? Pity, I hoped they would develop them into mini Imperial quasi-daemon faction...

I find it weird honor guard for Space Marines are now in legends. I am finishing up a meeting, but I am 95% sure they are in Ultramarines supplement.

mightymconeshot wrote:
I find it weird honor guard for Space Marines are now in legends. I am finishing up a meeting, but I am 95% sure they are in Ultramarines supplement.

they are ultras only there though, and they may have possibly been options for other chapters in the past.

The Terminus Ultra datasheet has been updated - now it can be taken for any Chapter. It was locked to the Ultramarines in the Index.

I could understand this if it were a collection of older unit types and whatnot, even ancient minis like Chaplain on Bike and things that technically never existed in mini-form (like Librarians on bikes) but so much of it is just wargear options. It's like the most stark confirmation of "No model, no rule" I've ever seen.

They don't make a miniature with that exact specific combinations of weapons anymore, so they're not part of the regular game! You get a "special" set of segregated rules.

Gadzilla666 wrote:

 techsoldaten wrote:
No Doomrider. The ultimate legend and they chose to ignore him.

*sigh* Maybe this means we will see him in an upcoming release.

Gw will never be that cool again.

Although we did ge a noise marine with a guitar-bolter so....

There still is hope, fleeting as it may be, but hope nonetheless.
Doomrider kicks ass & the limited Noise Marine is one their best models in a while. Its a really good balance between old school & "modern" GW. just enuff RT insanity....

mightymconeshot wrote:I find it weird honor guard for Space Marines are now in legends. I am finishing up a meeting, but I am 95% sure they are in Ultramarines supplement.

that would make them Ultra specific rather than something my Salamanders can make use of, right?

I’m a little irritated that if this is their “final” points and they are not going to update them, they didn’t even bother to check to see how they matched up with current minis.

For example, it’s nice that they have the rules for old versions of Calgar. But they just kept the old points. You can play with your old ones, at 235/250 points, or the new, vastly superior one, for 200.

There was never going to be any effort put in... not sure why you expected any updates tbh. It’s simply a way to garner goodwill by ‘allowing’ use of older models going forward, whilst taking the Indexes OOP.

 JohnnyHell wrote:
There was never going to be any effort put in... not sure why you expected any updates tbh. It’s simply a way to garner goodwill by ‘allowing’ use of older models going forward, whilst taking the Indexes OOP.

yeah, this just just GW moving the drabs left over from the indexes into a new format, and offically telling people "no we're not going to provide rules support for this going forward"

They forgot the FAQ update for Legion of the Damned that allows them to be taken in a detachment without an HQ!

OrkPlayer137 wrote:
They forgot the FAQ update for Legion of the Damned that allows them to be taken in a detachment without an HQ!

not a biiiig deal TBH given that legends will be almost exclusively used by fluff bunnies and folks just wanting to have fun, and not by die hard WAAC types who'd push for that to screw over other players I guess

 Captain Brown wrote:
Well those who still have Rough Riders will be happy.

Cheers,

CB

I would have preferred they kept them in the codex. Especially with armies like GSC having their dirt bikes why couldn’t guard get similar. But oh well. I can still field my 3 squads of rough riders (running 30 of them around the board never gets old).

*edit*. My FLGS just posted that legends units WILL be legal in store events

Twin Autocannon for Dreads dropped to 20ppm. They were 33ppm in the index. That's a big drop, especially running 2 of them per Dread.

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