Age of Sigmar N & R: AoS v3 and Dominion p.172.

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**Kanluwen**

It's 5x Vanari Dawnriders, 10x Auralan Wardens(the model with the lantern is the High Warden), and 1x Light of Eltharion.

You can find details on the Auralan Wardens here

**Mr Morden**

Kanluwen wrote:
It's 5x Vanari Dawnriders, 10x Auralan Wardens(the model with the lantern is the High Warden), and 1x Light of Eltharion.

You can find details on the Auralan Wardens here

I was thinking that the Dawnriders are more equivalent to to 2 infantry?

**Cronch**

The box will be horrible price-wise. It's stuffed to the gills with things that are just padding (usually grossly overpriced like the "limited" battletome) while having as many models as a Start Collecting box.

The gargants look funny, which is what gargants always did, but I remain skeptical of a whole army of giants, Knights and superheavies are the worst part of 40k for me.

**Kanluwen**

Mr Morden wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
It's 5x Vanari Dawnriders, 10x Auralan Wardens(the model with the lantern is the High Warden), and 1x Light of Eltharion.

You can find details on the Auralan Wardens here

I was thinking that the Dawnriders are more equivalent to to 2 infantry?

I was meaning more because you had a Canoness equated to the hero--there is only The Light of Eltharion in this set. It's 26 models all told, and for some reason I was thinking that the Sisters pack was around 30 rather than 25.

Still maintaining that the price point will be around $200, as the limited army book is again "made for this box".

**Vermis**

A few years ago I spent a wad on bits to make a couple of wee, themed HE bands, in particular to kitbash modern looking spears, archers, cav, and a hero on a griffon. Stuck them in a box and didn't do much with them. Now that I'm maybe, possibly, could I, dig out that box and have another look, I find out that GW are releasing pretty good-looking spears and cav, and if I can find a decent eagle head I might grab that sphinx too. Dammit GW! You make my aloof hipster facade crumble as soon as I show up.

Archers... um. Maybe those extra strings nick off with a knife, and the heads can be easily swapped. Maybe.

Cow spirit is so ludicrous and over the top, it made me race right through horror and disgust and all the way back to awesome again. Cow helmets are stuck in horror and disgust.

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Dunno. Bound to be tensions. Otherwise, it’ll be all.....ahem

I’m a God, je suis un God, Tyrion, Teclis and Alarielle
We God together every day, one two three.

Mmmmm. Sack magique!

Yep. That’ll confuse a decent slice of posters!

**Sotahullu**

I actually find it weird that Auralan Warden are apparently coming in units of 10 rather then 20.

**Kanluwen**

Sotahullu wrote:
I actually find it weird that Auralan Warden are apparently coming in units of 10 rather then 20.

This is a start collecting sized box. Look at how the Mortek Guard came in Feast of Bones--sold in boxes of 20, you got 10.

**GoatboyBeta**

DaveC wrote:
So this preview probably comes from the Kraken Eater as the artwork shows a boat in it's hand.

EDIT added the artwork group pic

Just noticed the two humans in the Kraken eater art. One in the boat and one falling out. Definitely looking significantly taller than the current Giant. I guess the Aleguzzler is going to be the Armiger to these guys Questor/Dominus.

**Cronch**

Kanluwen wrote:
Sotahullu wrote:
I actually find it weird that Auralan Warden are apparently coming in units of 10 rather then 20.

This is a start collecting sized box. Look at how the Mortek Guard came in Feast of Bones--sold in boxes of 20, you got 10.

On the other hand, Idoneth infantry is also 10 to box.

**NinthMusketeer**

Overread wrote:
So this has to be the first time that confirmation of a release of a brand new army is considered small news

Personally I think it just shows how good we've had it from GW in the last few years that people are "greedy" in what they want now.

And yes if isolation isn't ending until June then GW might well have to spread things out even further. I mean it does't really matter if they show us loads of cool stuff. The only things they can release now are e-books/products and the video stuff. All the rest is basically impossible for them to do with the factories closed. They could reveal 5 new armies for 40K and we'd have a great half hour and then NOTHING FOR MONTHS.

I think you have a very valid point here.

Anyways, very excited to see more of the SoB. And Kraken Eater is a cool name.

**GenRifDrake**

I'm surprised folks are talking about Sons of Behemat and the Army Box content but no mention of the first Lumineth Rules preview that they showed.

Meant to be a spiritual successor to the old ASF rule that High Elves had in the Old World.

**NinthMusketeer**

That rule is pretty dam tame compared to what some other factions are running around with. I suspect people are looking at it, thinking "oh cool, that looks good but not too good" then moving on to talk about something more exciting.

**Overread**

Tame, but could be used to good effect if the army can put down a decent number of units as you could gang-up on a single enemy unit to wipe them out. But yes tame compared to say, Slaanesh, who can almost get an entire army attacking first.

**howie**

Surprised there isn't more intrigue towards the new race. I for one welcome our new overlords.

I do wonder if these will be bigger as has been said in the artistic representation, the humans do look much smaller than the current giant model.

**Overread**

I think the lack of chatter is because we've known they've been coming since the Zoat video went out - and before that when the shipment leaks show approaching items.

This new video confirms them and gives some hints, but we still don't really know anything much more. We've not seen anything, though some are suspecting that the Kracken version of the giants might be linked to the wrecked boat hints that we've seen .However GW are crafty and we've had rumour photos lead us astray before - eg the lizard pattern that turned out to be a pelt over a space marine set of armour.

**GenRifDrake**

Overread wrote:
Tame, but could be used to good effect if the army can put down a decent number of units as you could gang-up on a single enemy unit to wipe them out. But yes tame compared to say, Slaanesh, who can almost get an entire army attacking first.

Do Slaanesh need to spend CP and such to achieve that result? Curious because usually abilities to get an advantage in activations over your opponent when it comes to alternating activation is a pretty big thing in my experience.. so seeing they just passively get a trait that lets them pick 2 at a time instead of 1 is pretty big deal to me it felt.

**Jackal90**

I’m just amused at people screaming about prices ....... that we don’t even have yet.

Plenty on here did the same about OBR too, then retracted those statements when they found out they weren’t as insanely priced as their crystal ball suggested.

What’s next, people complaining they are broken before we even get the rules? (Wouldn’t be a first either)

Pretty excited for the sons of behemat though, the art is showing them to be pretty big.
I’m assuming like the above poster, it will be akin to knights/armigers for size.
Will be interesting to see prices though along with points.

I’d expect to see the gargant bundle back too at some stage to try and sell more kits.
2 for just over the cost of 1 isn’t bad, which is partly why I have 2 of them anyway.

If that is an idea of scale though, I’m expecting £100+ kits at 500+ points each.
So you’d likely see 3 big ones plus a couple of gargants in a normal game.

**pm713**

GenRifDrake wrote:
I'm surprised folks are talking about Sons of Behemat and the Army Box content but no mention of the first Lumineth Rules preview that they showed.

Meant to be a spiritual successor to the old ASF rule that High Elves had in the Old World.

What baffles me is that they wanted a successor to ASF. It was awful, most of the time it was "you get to go first and reroll everything" or had the 'penalty' of striking at initiative.

**Galas**

ASF was absurd. Fething high elves bullying my poor orks with Initiative 2...

But as Nith says in today AoS that rule is a big meh, compared with things like slaanesh or ironjawz.

**Sotahullu**

Dunno, it is the first rule we have seen there could be some other things that make it more interesting/powerful.

**Kanluwen**

The nice part about it is that it will allow for you to potentially neutralize larger threats to your melee units quickly.

**Mr_Rose**

Sotahullu wrote:
Dunno, it is the first rule we have seen there could be some other things that make it more interesting/powerful.

Yeah, I would lay good odds there is at least one faction, spell, or command ability that allows you to increase the number of units you can select. I also wouldn’t bet against a ‘binding’ spell that disrupts the Slaaneshi ASF effect and/or forces specific units to be chosen last.

**ImAGeek**

Lumineth Lowdown, about art this time. Not a lot new, but we've got a name for the veiled mage or whatever she is:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/04/06/ultimate-art-isansgw-homepage-post-3/

From stunning front covers and pages replete with astonishing illustrations to page furniture and border art, the range of battletomes just wouldn’t be the same without being brought to life by images of heroic warriors, dread beasts and fantastical vistas. The battletome of the Lumineth Realm-lords is certainly no exception, and today we’re showing you some of the incredible artwork found within. We spoke to Cat O’Connor, one of the studio’s talented team of illustrators, who told us more about the artwork in the book.

Warhammer Community: What sets the artwork of the Lumineth Realm-lords apart from the other races of the Mortal Realms?

Cat: The setting of Warhammer Age of Sigmar is, for the most part, a dark and foreboding one. However, the Lumineth Realm-lords are, in essence, quite the opposite. The artwork we produced therefore offered us a chance to experiment with using the full colour spectrum, with lots of white and dazzling imagery to really convey the enlightened culture of the Hyshian aelves. In my head, I imagined them marching onto the battlefield with prismatic rays of light bathing their armour and surroundings in vibrant colours.

WarCom: Was there an overarching theme that you were aiming for with the artwork in the upcoming battletome?

Cat: We wanted to create a sense of ethereal power – that the Lumineth are so infused with the magical properties of aetherquartz that they appear otherworldly. To that end, sometimes it was more appropriate to show a character in a darker environment to emphasise that they are emanating their own light – such as with the Light of Eltharion and Scinari Cathaller.

WarCom: How did you go about choosing the various environments in which to set the Lumineth illustrations?

Cat: The Lumineth are all about their connection to Hysh. They even fight alongside the very spirits of their realm, so choosing strong and powerful mountainous environments seemed like the best way to really convey their sense of grandeur and the vast magical power at their disposal. They are not the delicate elves of the world-that-was, these guys are pike- and hammer-wielding magical powerhouses with backup from all the geomantic spirits of Hysh – some of which literally represent the mountains themselves!

WarCom: Were there any more subtle features that you wanted to emphasise or represent in the artwork?

Cat: We wanted to strengthen the natural bond that the Lumineth have with the ground they walk on, so featured shards of aetherquartz crystal embedded in the ground and – like the models themselves – spears of wheat popping up here and there.

WarCom: What are your favourite pieces of artwork in the battletome?

Cat: I love Paul Dainton’s Teclis piece – what a beautiful way to bring back such an awesome character of the world-that-was! You get a real sense of arrogance and divine resplendence from him.

I also really enjoyed painting Avalenor. It was a really cool opportunity to draw something so enormous and to capture that sense of slow, powerful implacability. He’s definitely not something to take ‘light-ly’ when he’s on the battlefield!

**GaroRobe**

artwork wise, the cow helmets don't look bad. At least the ones in the distance look fine.

**NinthMusketeer**

I wish the hammer-related miniatures had sizes like the art. The weapons and helmets are still huge but in miniature form they would not look nearly as silly if they had such proportions.

Regardless, gorgeous artwork!

**nels1031**

Not all that excited for Lumineth tbh, but Sons of Behemat are going make me drop my return to Maggotkin. But I can’t wait to see the master painters take a shot at Light of Eltharion.

**Mr Morden**

Really lovely artwork again

They are commissioning some great art.

I need to see the Giants to know if I want them,

**Commodus Leitdorf**

Man give me GIANTS! I cant wait to see them. Come on just give me an excuse to buy more!

**Hulksmash**

I want that art for the Light of Eltherion....

**tneva82**

Hopefully those elf helms have the top part separate piece. If that can be get rid of and put into pointy end I might start an army.