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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/05 01:46:57
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R. : pg.46 Lumineth articles and endless spells.
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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It's a Wild Rider shield.
They never show them and keep screwing the rules royally, but the kit has shield options.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/05 02:13:19
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R. : pg.46 Lumineth articles and endless spells.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Indeed it is!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/05 02:25:54
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R. : pg.46 Lumineth articles and endless spells.
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Honestly, I feel kinda called out by it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/05 03:45:55
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R. : pg.61 Sons of Behemat preorder.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I feel taunted by the excelsior shield- its one of my favorite pieces of gear for my conversions.
I feel like I have the only 2 unopened boxes left in the world lol.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/05 03:46:58
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R. : pg.46 Lumineth articles and endless spells.
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Lol, GW just loves rubbing salt in that wound for you. I imagine it is worse that you briefly had the rules for shields, showing that GW at least knew of their existence, then had the option taken away to underscore just how much GW does not care about the elf half of Wood Elves.
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Road to Renown! It's like classic Path to Glory, but repaired, remastered, expanded! https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/778170.page
I chose an avatar I feel best represents the quality of my post history.
I try to view Warhammer as more of a toolbox with examples than fully complete games. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/05 05:10:11
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R. : pg.46 Lumineth articles and endless spells.
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Savage Minotaur
Baltimore, Maryland
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Next step is to have the Mega-Gargants special rules specifically mention that shield and give it a wild special rule.
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"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/05 07:04:19
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R. : pg.61 Sons of Behemat preorder.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Dammit, GW - Gargants and Mega-Gargants are Ork Titan equivalents, not Giants and Even-Gianter-Giants...
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/05 09:36:26
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar N & R. : pg.61 Sons of Behemat preorder.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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150 euros
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/05 11:30:39
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar N & R. : pg.61 Sons of Behemat preorder.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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You got a source for that? Or are we just in wild speculation land?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/05 11:33:40
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar N & R. : pg.61 Sons of Behemat preorder.
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Fixture of Dakka
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€20 more than the current most expensive AoS kit and the Imperial Knights - about £120 $200! and you’ll need multiples 3 Mega Gargants is almost (or more in dollars) the price of a PS5, XBSX that’s mad money
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/05 11:53:13
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar N & R. : pg.61 Sons of Behemat preorder.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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. MAGIC. Also, 2 small "gargants" for 100 euros.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/05 11:54:12
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R. : pg.61 Sons of Behemat preorder.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Ok so, speculation then. We'll wait a few more days.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/05 12:01:52
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R. : pg.61 Sons of Behemat preorder.
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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There’s a price list floating around on Facebook with the same prices.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/05 12:11:08
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R. : pg.61 Sons of Behemat preorder.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Don't forget the kit has a good few optional parts inside; whilst a lot of the other big kits are often purely a monobuild. Or they are like the Necron Obilisk in that it has a duel build but its minor parts whilst the core is the same.
Most are also in 40K which is more popular so it might be a combination of an army that is expected to sell poorly at its onset, but at the same time is likely to sell models at a decent rate for their price to be used as allies in other armies. The kind of force where you build an army because you run 2 armies in different Grand Alliances already and have 2 giants to ally into them so you build a Sons army because its a modest cost on top of what you've already spent.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/05 12:15:11
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R. : pg.61 Sons of Behemat preorder.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Unless you can actually build multiple models or easily magnetize it, having multiple options in the kit should have zero bearing on the price, you're only ever building one option from it anyway.
150 euro is in no way a sensible price for a toy kit, assuming the above is actually right.And here I thought Teclis was absurdly priced.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/05 12:24:29
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R. : pg.61 Sons of Behemat preorder.
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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And multiple options don’t add anything to the production price between two similar sized models with the same amount of sprues. And none of that explains why the smaller giant which was £25 each when released 13 odd years ago is now £75 for 2.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/05 12:30:07
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R. : pg.61 Sons of Behemat preorder.
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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ImAGeek wrote:And multiple options don’t add anything to the production price between two similar sized models with the same amount of sprues. And none of that explains why the smaller giant which was £25 each when released 13 odd years ago is now £75 for 2.
13 years? So 2007. 25 pounds then is 35 pounds now so ok 5 pound price hike.
(you don't expect to pay 25 pounds now do you?)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/05 12:35:16
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R. : pg.61 Sons of Behemat preorder.
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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tneva82 wrote: ImAGeek wrote:And multiple options don’t add anything to the production price between two similar sized models with the same amount of sprues. And none of that explains why the smaller giant which was £25 each when released 13 odd years ago is now £75 for 2.
13 years? So 2007. 25 pounds then is 35 pounds now so ok 5 pound price hike.
(you don't expect to pay 25 pounds now do you?)
For the same models, yes. Or at least, I don’t expect to pay a significantly higher price for 14 year old models. Especially as they did a double box of them relatively recently for I think 40 quid, so it’s £35 more for the same thing.
Edit: it was £45.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/05 12:47:37
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R. : pg.61 Sons of Behemat preorder.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'd be more interested in Sons of Behamat if the models didn't still have that flabby look carried over from the old giants/gargants.
When I first heard of them I thought I'd love it, but the models really turn me off.
I'm sure they'll be amazing kits for those that like that look, though.
As others have said, I'm more excited to see what's coming next!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/05 12:51:25
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R. : pg.61 Sons of Behemat preorder.
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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ImAGeek wrote:tneva82 wrote: ImAGeek wrote:And multiple options don’t add anything to the production price between two similar sized models with the same amount of sprues. And none of that explains why the smaller giant which was £25 each when released 13 odd years ago is now £75 for 2.
13 years? So 2007. 25 pounds then is 35 pounds now so ok 5 pound price hike.
(you don't expect to pay 25 pounds now do you?)
For the same models, yes. Or at least, I don’t expect to pay a significantly higher price for 14 year old models. Especially as they did a double box of them relatively recently for I think 40 quid, so it’s £35 more for the same thing.
Edit: it was £45.
So I'm sure you are fine your work paying same price as in 2007? Remove all pay rises.
You DO know right thre's thing called inlfation? Same bread you eat now as you ate then costs more. Your rent for same building isn't same now as it was then. Your clothes cost more even if they are same.
Oh and if it was 45£ in 2007 now it would be 59£ so it's actually hefty discount.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/05 12:53:16
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R. : pg.61 Sons of Behemat preorder.
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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tneva82 wrote: ImAGeek wrote:tneva82 wrote: ImAGeek wrote:And multiple options don’t add anything to the production price between two similar sized models with the same amount of sprues. And none of that explains why the smaller giant which was £25 each when released 13 odd years ago is now £75 for 2.
13 years? So 2007. 25 pounds then is 35 pounds now so ok 5 pound price hike.
(you don't expect to pay 25 pounds now do you?)
For the same models, yes. Or at least, I don’t expect to pay a significantly higher price for 14 year old models. Especially as they did a double box of them relatively recently for I think 40 quid, so it’s £35 more for the same thing.
Edit: it was £45.
So I'm sure you are fine your work paying same price as in 2007? Remove all pay rises.
You DO know right thre's thing called inlfation? Same bread you eat now as you ate then costs more. Your rent for same building isn't same now as it was then. Your clothes cost more even if they are same.
I get that, and tbh if it wasn’t for the double box it probably wouldn’t be an issue, but 2 giants aren’t worth £75 to me when they were £45 recently. That’s not inflation, that’s taking the piss.
It was £45 for two during Age of Sigmar, not £45 for one when it first came out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/05 12:53:41
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R. : pg.61 Sons of Behemat preorder.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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So I'm sure you are fine your work paying same price as in 2007? Remove all pay rises.
I'm fairly sure in some industries we're *now* hitting the same pay levels as pre 2008 great depression.Well, were before 2020 geat depression.
Also, that is beside the point. As a consumer, my only interest is paying as little as possible for the product. I don't care about GW bottom line, that's their CEO's responsibility. Whatever price they set, it is too high, because it's in my best interest to pay 0 GBP if possible.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/05 13:19:29
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R. : pg.61 Sons of Behemat preorder.
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Dakka Veteran
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ImAGeek wrote:tneva82 wrote: ImAGeek wrote:tneva82 wrote: ImAGeek wrote:And multiple options don’t add anything to the production price between two similar sized models with the same amount of sprues. And none of that explains why the smaller giant which was £25 each when released 13 odd years ago is now £75 for 2.
13 years? So 2007. 25 pounds then is 35 pounds now so ok 5 pound price hike.
(you don't expect to pay 25 pounds now do you?)
For the same models, yes. Or at least, I don’t expect to pay a significantly higher price for 14 year old models. Especially as they did a double box of them relatively recently for I think 40 quid, so it’s £35 more for the same thing.
Edit: it was £45.
So I'm sure you are fine your work paying same price as in 2007? Remove all pay rises.
You DO know right thre's thing called inlfation? Same bread you eat now as you ate then costs more. Your rent for same building isn't same now as it was then. Your clothes cost more even if they are same.
I get that, and tbh if it wasn’t for the double box it probably wouldn’t be an issue, but 2 giants aren’t worth £75 to me when they were £45 recently. That’s not inflation, that’s taking the piss.
It was £45 for two during Age of Sigmar, not £45 for one when it first came out.
that 45 pound box was a discount box, not a regulair kit
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/05 13:31:50
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar N & R. : pg.61 Sons of Behemat preorder.
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Have an 'old' invoice from my local store dated May 2018 'Aleguzzler Gargants: Colossal Crushers × 1 £35.10' . I think they did an extra discount due to it not selling at the time. This same kit is now going to be over £75 rrp?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/05 14:05:35
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R. : pg.61 Sons of Behemat preorder.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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We'll probably see the older giant crammed into start collecting and bundle boxes now. They had one in the Ironjawz bundle awhile ago, despite them not being in their armybook.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/05 14:32:39
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar N & R. : pg.61 Sons of Behemat preorder.
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Fixture of Dakka
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The full Euro price list
Mega Gargant €150
Mancrushers €100
Warscroll cards €12
SoB Battletome €32.50
SoB audiobook €15
Magister on Disc €30
Endrinmaster €30
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/05 14:32:44
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R. : pg.61 Sons of Behemat preorder.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Much as I don't like the price, doing a kit with multiple builds is more work than doing 2 different kits,
you've got to model things so the shared parts work for all the optional build, and the more different they look, the more work it is to do
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/05 15:47:57
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R. : pg.61 Sons of Behemat preorder.
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Foxy Wildborne
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OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:Much as I don't like the price, doing a kit with multiple builds is more work than doing 2 different kits,
you've got to model things so the shared parts work for all the optional build, and the more different they look, the more work it is to do
And yet for the customer it's pure downside, we have an army that will consist of 3 models and they all look identical below the waist. GW's total investment into this entire faction was 3 sprues and it's one of the more expensive ones to build a 2000 list for.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/05 16:00:45
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R. : pg.61 Sons of Behemat preorder.
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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lord_blackfang wrote: OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:Much as I don't like the price, doing a kit with multiple builds is more work than doing 2 different kits, you've got to model things so the shared parts work for all the optional build, and the more different they look, the more work it is to do And yet for the customer it's pure downside, we have an army that will consist of 3 models and they all look identical below the waist. GW's total investment into this entire faction was 3 sprues and it's one of the more expensive ones to build a 2000 list for.
The Mega-Gargants aren't Battleline. You'd need to have something in there to run a legal force. The 'standard' Gargants, which are a hell of a customizable kit, are the Battleline unit. Also worth mentioning that we haven't seen the sprues for the Megas. Joke and ye shall receive! Sprues just dropped We know there's at least two different set of feet though: Four sprues.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/05 16:09:55
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar N & R. : pg.61 Sons of Behemat preorder.
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Lieutenant General
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You can now check out the sprues on Warhammer Community
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
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