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lost_lilliputian wrote:

 Tiberius501 wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
AUD$320 each?

From Mperor they’re $256 which is damn good.

I admit that's a great saving but a word of caution, beware of ordering from Mperor.

Have you had problems with them before? The orders I’ve made from them have been good, except for the most recent which seems to be taking a while.

 Tiberius501 wrote:

lost_lilliputian wrote:

 Tiberius501 wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
AUD$320 each?

From Mperor they’re $256 which is damn good.

I admit that's a great saving but a word of caution, beware of ordering from Mperor.

Have you had problems with them before? The orders I’ve made from them have been good, except for the most recent which seems to be taking a while.

Yes, unfortunately. I personally can't recommend them and won't ever use them again. Neither will friends. Got burned.

If however you have and had great service etc good for you.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
AUD$320 each?

How much is the Kurt Angle figure and a roll of green stuff?

They're currently $165 USD on Ebay, which is a lot more appealing. Still a lot, but this is closer to the price they should have been at.

 GaroRobe wrote:
They're currently $165 USD on Ebay, which is a lot more appealing. Still a lot, but this is closer to the price they should have been at.

That sounds expensive for a Kurt Angle figure, if I'm honest.

 Dysartes wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
They're currently $165 USD on Ebay, which is a lot more appealing. Still a lot, but this is closer to the price they should have been at.

That sounds expensive for a Kurt Angle figure, if I'm honest.

The Kurt Angle collectible market is insane. But at least you know you're getting a quality gargant out of it

from that picture the model is 1cm shorter than the Mantic Giant

 GaroRobe wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
They're currently $165 USD on Ebay, which is a lot more appealing. Still a lot, but this is closer to the price they should have been at.

That sounds expensive for a Kurt Angle figure, if I'm honest.

The Kurt Angle collectible market is insane. But at least you know you're getting a quality gargant out of it

Why waste time and money trying to get a creepy action figure to look like a giant? Over at the Plastic Craic Blog they are running a couple articles compiling all the third party manufacturers out there. There are plenty of options to choose from.

 kodos wrote:
from that picture the model is 1cm shorter than the Mantic Giant

Wait, I thought these guys were supposed to be big?

It was never going be cheap.

Personally I don't think the sculpts are that special and probably fall into the trap of multipart kits that need to be more functional rather than unique.

Could not justify buying one when I can sculpt one for myself at a fraction of the price.

I think these will sell quite well considering that they can be included on most factions and you need 2 or 3 for your army.

All in all good model and probably fun to paint but at that price I rather give something else a try.

One thing that might be affecting price could be that whilst they can be taken in any force, they aren't a multiplier model. Chances are Sons players will buy 3 and that's it. That's not just every Giant they "need" its every Son's model they need near enough. So unlike most other armies where big things go alongside smaller things, Sons is just big things.

So it might be that, when the account is viewed at the army wide level, the price on them has gone up to reflect that there's no cheaper troops that will be bought in greater numbers to help balance the books. Meanwhile other big models are typically within armies that will have those other models to help balance the books out.


But its only a theory and likely only one potential contributing factor in the price.

so pretty much like Knights were when they launched
and they were not even close to that price by the time
110€ compared to 150€ now and they were mostly Addons to other armies

the Original GW Plastic Knight was just a one model Mercenary for all armies and was 35€ released

if it would be only one army to get those models at a maximum of 4, maybe, but with all factions having access the "low model count for sales" does not justify the price

the theory does not hold. not with something like Archeon or Glotkin around that are same size or larger and only selling to one model to one faction
by that logic Archeon must cost 400€ and GW would still lose money on him

I think Old-GW is back on track, the Community has forgotten what happend and it is time to milk the cow until it dies (and blame to Community again for not being dedicated enough)
they focus again on the whales who by anything not matter the price and are now just testing how far they can go
the next big model will be 130-140 and people will praise GW that they listen and how cheap everything now is

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 silent25 wrote:

Why waste time and money trying to get a creepy action figure to look like a giant? Over at the Plastic Craic Blog they are running a couple articles compiling all the third party manufacturers out there. There are plenty of options to choose from.

For the same reason why you would go for an all Mantic Gargant army, to troll those people who payed more for one model than you for your whole army

 kodos wrote:

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 silent25 wrote:

Why waste time and money trying to get a creepy action figure to look like a giant? Over at the Plastic Craic Blog they are running a couple articles compiling all the third party manufacturers out there. There are plenty of options to choose from.

For the same reason why you would go for an all Mantic Gargant army, to troll those people who payed more for one model than you for your whole army

Think you missed my point. Why waste time trying to get the Kurt Angle figure to look good when for a little more you can get the Mantic Giant or a bunch of other well priced options?

for the same reason, to troll
not everyone is into giants or similar minis, but going to convert WWF Minis and play AoS with them can be fun if you like them

not everything must be taken serious and if you want to troll, take the ones you like the most

I am just lucky that there are no Events at the moment because of Covid, otherwise I would have already ordered 3 Mantic Giants and 3 smaller ones (possibly Reaper) just for fun to play with a budget army (and proof people wrong that Mantic is going away from "affordable Wargming Miniatures" concept)

This one model cost more than my entire Gnoll army... from the price tag I was expecting a very big model, from the photo above it seems that the Mantic giant is taller.

Still, it has a GW logo slapped on it, so it will sell like hot cakes.

£120? This is just getting absurd.

Courtesy of reddit, this thing is kinda small for something costing more than Archaon.

So smaller than things that cost significantly less.

Seems about right for GW.

lost_lilliputian wrote:
Yes, unfortunately. I personally can't recommend them and won't ever use them again. Neither will friends. Got burned.

14 orders and counting. Not a single thing has gone wrong.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
So smaller than things that cost significantly less.

Seems about right for GW.

lost_lilliputian wrote:
Yes, unfortunately. I personally can't recommend them and won't ever use them again. Neither will friends. Got burned.

14 orders and counting. Not a single thing has gone wrong.

Lucky you mate. I only made 1 order, that's all it took to get royally stuffed up.

Thing is I know I'm not the only one either.

It's a shame because it really is a fantastic miniature, comfortably my favourite giant sculpt. I just can't justify the asking price. Here in Japan I could buy a series X for the price of two of these. This is compounded by the fact that I haven't seen a single store that offers the kind of discounts that are common elsewhere. I'm looking forward to the new warcry starter but I'm dreading the price.

Historically, GW starters have been pretty good value. I am not too concerned.


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 stonehorse wrote:
This one model cost more than my entire Gnoll army... from the price tag I was expecting a very big model, from the photo above it seems that the Mantic giant is taller.

Still, it has a GW logo slapped on it, so it will sell like hot cakes.

Not so sure myself. The mid 2010s showed that there is definitely a limit to what fans will tolerate. The 'GW fans will buy anything' argument has only ever been an idea raised by people who choose not to understand that others can like a product more than them. Not to mention income disparity. Someone making 100k a year has a very different viewpoint on a given price point than someone making 20k.

On top of that other companies will release models that GW would be absolutely skewered over if they did a release of the same quality. Yet said companies will get little to no criticism for it exactly because the price point is lower. There is a big element of getting what one pays for. Does GW set ridiculous prices? Absolutely, but reducing it down to 'GW fans will buy everything' is naive at BEST.

Yowza. I figured it would be like $130-150.

Chikout wrote:
It's a shame because it really is a fantastic miniature, comfortably my favourite giant sculpt. I just can't justify the asking price. Here in Japan I could buy a series X for the price of two of these. This is compounded by the fact that I haven't seen a single store that offers the kind of discounts that are common elsewhere. I'm looking forward to the new warcry starter but I'm dreading the price.

When covid19 finally ends come to Taiwan then, the store I go to offers at least some discounts and gives freebies (brushes, paints, etc) as you buy more stuff lol

 Overread wrote:
One thing that might be affecting price could be that whilst they can be taken in any force, they aren't a multiplier model. Chances are Sons players will buy 3 and that's it. That's not just every Giant they "need" its every Son's model they need near enough. So unlike most other armies where big things go alongside smaller things, Sons is just big things.

So it might be that, when the account is viewed at the army wide level, the price on them has gone up to reflect that there's no cheaper troops that will be bought in greater numbers to help balance the books. Meanwhile other big models are typically within armies that will have those other models to help balance the books out.


But its only a theory and likely only one potential contributing factor in the price.

Im really not clear on how things are priced at GW what is the criteria?
I think what you mentioned is probably right and I also think that other points would influence the final tag. The number of the sprues, how many can you built from the box, the size and the GW artificial inflation tax on all new kits, how many need to be sold to meet the profitability/production goals...
Theres probably loads more but for us consumers we just look at comparable models like Archaoan and Glotkin and wonder why?

 silent25 wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
They're currently $165 USD on Ebay, which is a lot more appealing. Still a lot, but this is closer to the price they should have been at.

That sounds expensive for a Kurt Angle figure, if I'm honest.

The Kurt Angle collectible market is insane. But at least you know you're getting a quality gargant out of it

Why waste time and money trying to get a creepy action figure to look like a giant? Over at the Plastic Craic Blog they are running a couple articles compiling all the third party manufacturers out there. There are plenty of options to choose from.

Why do I feel like a gauntlet has been thrown?

 NAVARRO wrote:

Im really not clear on how things are priced at GW what is the criteria?

the one point that is a fixed cost are the number of sprues

a sprue needs a steel molding form if you want to make more models
this costs a lot and the more sprues there are, the higher are the costs

it does not matter how many options are there or how many models you can make from it
if Archaon is one sprue and the Giant has 2, the base costs are doubled

everything else are variable costs that do not really matter (people mention the designer needs to be paid too and while true, those work for GW with a monthly income and are not paid per model they do, this is accounted as variable cost but needed more hours for one model than the other won't make the model significant more expensive unless GW wants it that way)

yet Archaon and the MG have 3 large sprues and the Giant has an additional small 4th sprue with bits
this is something that adds in cost, like Mantic once said, it is cheaper to add the bits to a different kit and let people cut the parts out and pack them by hand with the other kit than adding another sprue no matter how small it is

so it could be that this one sprue of optional bits is why this model is much more expensive than other large kits with the same amount of sprues
but from a costumer point of view, paying extra for options you don't need without a choice is a bad thing

making it 3 boxes with 2 sprues each for 90€ and the bits sprue and mail order option for 15€ everything would be alright

honestly, I don't care and neither should you. Why should we care about company's bottom line?

They don't seem very ''mega'' at all...

Cronch wrote:
honestly, I don't care and neither should you. Why should we care about company's bottom line?

Cause a company operating below their bottom line fast ends up a company no longer producing products we can buy. Heck the Spartan Games fans have been waiting YEARS to get Dystopian Wars and such back after they folded and Warcradle picked up what was left (in what I gather was not a smooth hand over since Spartan went fully to the wall with the administrators). If fans have no concept of the bottom line and no respect for it and demand prices cheaper than is sane for the firm to produce then, well, we end up losing out.


Actually Warhammer fans are most interested in the bottom line than most. It's the only hobby I know of where when the shareholder meetings happen we actually talk about it as well even if we aren't involved. The links get shown, debated, discussed. This is quite abnormal, most hobbies I'm into the key companies are rarely talked about any where near to the same level of depth. It's mostly "Oh they are rich/poor" level comments.

 LiftForSwift wrote:
They don't seem very ''mega'' at all...

Agreed, they are more like a standard giant rather than a mega one, especially when compared to other big AoS minis or other gianst like Mantic or Conquest ones.