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I genuinely can't remember a HH tease that wasn't related to Soon(tm) release of some sort when it was single-image only.

 Nostromodamus wrote:
It’ll be interesting to see how they get revamped for AOS...

Exalted.

 Overread wrote:
To be fair considering how popular vampires were in Old World and how GW has pushed them in the lore a lot I'd be shocked if we don't get a vampire/Soulblight army in the game. Heck I'm more surprised that Ossiarchs came before vampires.

The real question is what focus they take - lots of vampires; vampires with human followers; skeletons; zombies; undead; monsters; something else.

There's a lot of ways GW could take it. They still have a regular skelton army getting started set and could make them part of the vampire force; or they could still be their own army.

Be still my beating heart

Hopefully related to the style grace and success of Neferata and not the constant failure and disapointment of Manfred.

Agreed, more Lahmian presence would be desirable.

Question, given I can't see them on the GW store - a couple of people have mentioned "Soulblight" as a Death faction of some form. What's actually known about them, and what sort of units are people expecting for them?

 Dysartes wrote:
Question, given I can't see them on the GW store - a couple of people have mentioned "Soulblight" as a Death faction of some form. What's actually known about them, and what sort of units are people expecting for them?

It's basically the GW name for what was once Vampire Counts. Barring the Strigoi strain that is represented in Flesh Eater Courts, you have Mortachs like Manfred and Neferata as well as Blood Knights and Vargheists that fall under that keyword. More of a leader/elites focus than a complete subfaction since you don't really have mainline infantry for them.

 Dysartes wrote:
Question, given I can't see them on the GW store - a couple of people have mentioned "Soulblight" as a Death faction of some form. What's actually known about them, and what sort of units are people expecting for them?

Functionally, Soulblight is the keyword for vampires in AoS. Prior to Legions of Nagash, they were a tiny faction when everything was divided up in the now defunct Grand Alliance books, if memory serves.

Honestly, I'll be surprised if they stick with the name Soulblight. A lot of the filler names tended to get dropped once an official release came out.

Looking through the past rumor engines does seem to heavily hint we'll get some sort of new death models. Vampires and probably more FEC. The ornate swords scream vampire count (as does the hand holding a skull and sucking out its soul), but a lot of the hands and legs look more FEC. I wouldn't be surprised if the hand holding the bone flute is for FEC and not something Nurgle. Same with the meat hook hand, the recent leg, etc.

They don't actually have to drop the name. They didn't for Cities factions.

They just added Cities of Sigmar to it. The same can be done with regards to Legion of Nagash, since Vampires are basically all in his thrall.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKyGbkATwo0

Not that I'm big on magnetising or anything, but a guy on youtube shows how to get all three variants of the mega gargant from the one kit. Seems pretty simple (especially since if you don't glue on the head, you can easily just slot in any of the other heads. Looks like the kit gives you the parts to build all three heads without using the same bits) and the hands all tend to fit on.

Also, I'm a big fan of how the giant doesn't need the belly coverings. Lets you actually get creative, if you want to make yours really unique. Shame the price will scare a lot of would-be buyers away

I'd love a new line of vampires... however back to giants.
I quite like the models, I'm not overly keen that they have allowed these into all armies, it'll become almost mandatory to either use one or have a list capable of dealing with one, ala Knights/knight equivalents in 40k.
And to chime in with many others, that price point is way too high. I seriously just don't see that much value in the kit, it's better than the mantic giant (which I own one of) but not by much

so it looks like we're getting a dwarf:

Wow. At that giant's price point you can literally buy a 3d printer wholesale.

That's crazy.

Bugman Rangers, maybe?
Both Bugman and his rangers were teased on either the WarCom or Hammerhal Herald site a few months ago, and they'd honestly fit well into a game like Warcry (although I would be happy with an Underworld warband too)

EDIT:
Never mind. The Dwarf is going to be for blood bowl. He's a referee. You can tell by the striped clothing, as well as what he's doing with is arms (one gesturing, the other blowing a whistel). I figured it was supposed to be holding a bow, but nope. Shame

terry wrote:
so it looks like we're getting a dwarf:

Dwarf referee from bb box (there were 2 mysterius miniatures)

Also, the preview show is titled “gridiron & glory” which is about as Blood Bowl as you can get without literally calling it “the Blood Bowl preview.”

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Also, the preview show is titled “gridiron & glory” which is about as Blood Bowl as you can get without literally calling it “the Blood Bowl preview.”

We know Blood Bowl, Warcry, and Underworlds are all involved.

They've insinuated there will be some kind of 40k previews but it will be less prevalent here.

 Huron black heart wrote:
I'd love a new line of vampires... however back to giants.
I quite like the models, I'm not overly keen that they have allowed these into all armies, it'll become almost mandatory to either use one or have a list capable of dealing with one, ala Knights/knight equivalents in 40k.
And to chime in with many others, that price point is way too high. I seriously just don't see that much value in the kit, it's better than the mantic giant (which I own one of) but not by much

Having read rules and seen battlereport with one...not scared. They don't look all that good. What faction bonuses they lose as allies? Not getting faction bonuses limits ally bonuses a lot. No lumineth archers rerolling to hit via ambient light spell, even teclis would lose lots of oomph with onlv warscroll spells etc.


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 Mr_Rose wrote:
Also, the preview show is titled “gridiron & glory” which is about as Blood Bowl as you can get without literally calling it “the Blood Bowl preview.”

Bb there but other stuff as well

The apparent feather on the dwarf with what could maybe be referee stripes makes me think the other feather is from some kind of BB character.

Carlovonsexron wrote:
The apparent feather on the dwarf with what could maybe be referee stripes makes me think the other feather is from some kind of BB character.

This one definitely seems to be. Really wish people would have left these previews in the preview thread, considering the text that accompanied it on Facebook:

Our next mega-preview is only two days away – join us online on Saturday for all the latest boxed game reveals!

"Boxed Game" is their term for Specialist Games products now.

 Overread wrote:
To be fair considering how popular vampires were in Old World and how GW has pushed them in the lore a lot I'd be shocked if we don't get a vampire/Soulblight army in the game. Heck I'm more surprised that Ossiarchs came before vampires.

The real question is what focus they take - lots of vampires; vampires with human followers; skeletons; zombies; undead; monsters; something else.

There's a lot of ways GW could take it. They still have a regular skelton army getting started set and could make them part of the vampire force; or they could still be their own army.

I imagine FEC and Soulblight will become one faction that has sub-factions that can be played standalone. Much like Orruk, Gitz, and so on. I actually think the FEC Underworlds release kinda underlined that since they got released with a bat unit that has so far only been associated with LoN/Soulblight.

It would also help keep the faction from being just 4-5 units(FEC or Soulblight) and create an interesting power dynamic in the Nagash realm.

However, as someone mentioned this could all end up as being Warcry Warbands or Underworld bands.

I can't quite see Flesheaters being made into a single faction with other Vampires easily. They'd share some elements, but at the same time the overarching concept of the Flesheaters is that they are basically totally nuts. If it was put into a combined Vampire tomb they'd be very much out on their own unable to really interact with the rest of the Vampire forces or models at all. Far better to have one or two cross-over models like a Terrorgast. Much like how things like how most death armies share models with Legions of Nagash.

Regarding giant, mantic just trolling now on FB.



"Just in case you need three giants... we've got a GARGANTUAN bundle on the website! Three massive, plastic fantasy giants for just £75 and FREE courier shipping*"

 Overread wrote:
I can't quite see Flesheaters being made into a single faction with other Vampires easily. They'd share some elements, but at the same time the overarching concept of the Flesheaters is that they are basically totally nuts. If it was put into a combined Vampire tomb they'd be very much out on their own unable to really interact with the rest of the Vampire forces or models at all. Far better to have one or two cross-over models like a Terrorgast. Much like how things like how most death armies share models with Legions of Nagash.

The beauty of them being nuts is that you can play as much as you want around it. It's why FEC look at Nighthaunt and see just peasants in their kingdom instead of ghosts: their insanity justifies their actions and world view at each given time.

Plus, if the Carrion King returns it could potentially change the state of the courts as it is.

We are about to see Psychic Awakening for Age of Sigmar so I wouldn't be surprised if we see some shakeup and new heroes. GW has so far shown themselves to be willing to do bigger changes in the lore of AoS than 40k as the lore nerds aren't as invested in the AoS world.

I mean, they could just as well just call the book Vampire Courts and then Flesh-Eater Courts would be one of the courts with its own element.

I just wish we'd get the Morathi book already.

 Huron black heart wrote:
I'd love a new line of vampires... however back to giants.
I quite like the models, I'm not overly keen that they have allowed these into all armies, it'll become almost mandatory to either use one or have a list capable of dealing with one, ala Knights/knight equivalents in 40k.
And to chime in with many others, that price point is way too high. I seriously just don't see that much value in the kit, it's better than the mantic giant (which I own one of) but not by much

More likely you'll be thanking them for nerfing their army by bringing one. AoS monsters are not analogues to 40k vehicles, the dynamic is completely different. An army that cannot kill a Mega-Gargant is very low offense. There are plenty of common unit choices just as durable, or more so, with similar or greater damage output for the same points.


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 Eldarsif wrote:

 Overread wrote:
I can't quite see Flesheaters being made into a single faction with other Vampires easily. They'd share some elements, but at the same time the overarching concept of the Flesheaters is that they are basically totally nuts. If it was put into a combined Vampire tomb they'd be very much out on their own unable to really interact with the rest of the Vampire forces or models at all. Far better to have one or two cross-over models like a Terrorgast. Much like how things like how most death armies share models with Legions of Nagash.

The beauty of them being nuts is that you can play as much as you want around it. It's why FEC look at Nighthaunt and see just peasants in their kingdom instead of ghosts: their insanity justifies their actions and world view at each given time.

Plus, if the Carrion King returns it could potentially change the state of the courts as it is.

We are about to see Psychic Awakening for Age of Sigmar so I wouldn't be surprised if we see some shakeup and new heroes. GW has so far shown themselves to be willing to do bigger changes in the lore of AoS than 40k as the lore nerds aren't as invested in the AoS world.

I mean, they could just as well just call the book Vampire Courts and then Flesh-Eater Courts would be one of the courts with its own element.

I just wish we'd get the Morathi book already.

I also doubt FEC will be rolled in with Soulblight. Their fluff and fighting style are very different.

As for 'Psychic Awakening AoS' this isn't that. The analogy would be if Phoenix Rising was a whole series of campaign books on its own. Broken Realms focuses just on a certain sliver of the factions and setting, like the previous campaign books. If anything comparing it to Psychic Awakening isn't the best choice; all indicators suggest this will be along the lines of the other campaign books AoS has gotten but bigger.

 NAVARRO wrote:
Regarding giant, mantic just trolling now on FB.



"Just in case you need three giants... we've got a GARGANTUAN bundle on the website! Three massive, plastic fantasy giants for just £75 and FREE courier shipping*"

Mmmmmmmmm... Think I’ll pass. Maybe if they had thrown in some free coasters.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I also doubt FEC will be rolled in with Soulblight. Their fluff and fighting style are very different.

As for 'Psychic Awakening AoS' this isn't that. The analogy would be if Phoenix Rising was a whole series of campaign books on its own. Broken Realms focuses just on a certain sliver of the factions and setting, like the previous campaign books. If anything comparing it to Psychic Awakening isn't the best choice; all indicators suggest this will be along the lines of the other campaign books AoS has gotten but bigger.

Gw can completely redo fluff though. If they think they make more profits merging them they will. If it means doing new faction some sort of anti-chaos defenders of humans then that's what gw will make them.

As for broken realm. Series of campaign book giving stuff for all or most factions? Just like PA was in 40k

I’d imagine if a vampire is coming it will be Underworlds.
Could be a vamp, necromancer, zombies, a skeleton even.

I definitely think vampires need a release. A zombie/skeleton themed army.

tneva82 wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I also doubt FEC will be rolled in with Soulblight. Their fluff and fighting style are very different.

As for 'Psychic Awakening AoS' this isn't that. The analogy would be if Phoenix Rising was a whole series of campaign books on its own. Broken Realms focuses just on a certain sliver of the factions and setting, like the previous campaign books. If anything comparing it to Psychic Awakening isn't the best choice; all indicators suggest this will be along the lines of the other campaign books AoS has gotten but bigger.

Gw can completely redo fluff though. If they think they make more profits merging them they will. If it means doing new faction some sort of anti-chaos defenders of humans then that's what gw will make them.

As for broken realm. Series of campaign book giving stuff for all or most factions? Just like PA was in 40k

GW was clever with the wording; 'touch every corner of the realms, and effect every faction' note that this is subtly different from saying every faction will actually get content. I am relatively sure that if every faction was getting their own content GW would have been excited to say so. But the preview talks only about the elf gods. There will likely be content such as new realmscape rules or mercenaries or the like that everyone can use, but that is different than bespoke rules belonging to each army. They also call out the previous AoS campaign books which are not like 40k's PA series.

As for rewriting vampire fluff to combine FEC and Soulblight, they could. The next GHB could have a set of totally balanced point costs that puts all armies on the same level. But neither of those things are actually going to happen.

AoS 2.0 was a massive clean up of AoS by GW. The only faction that really still has a bit of a questionable future is Cities of Sigmar; otherwise every army should be expected to stay for a decent period of time. I think for GW to do otherwise would be risking the long term viability of the game.

After the huge mess of the launch and the launch to 2.0 phase GW needs AoS to be steady in respect of the armies it supports.

It needs to get like 40K and Old World - where only Forgeworld armies and the very very occasional army are lost; not a setting where armies can be lost/ changed/combined/ messed up too regularly