Age of Sigmar N & R: AoS v3 and Dominion p.172.

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**Kanluwen**

NinthMusketeer wrote:
GW was clever with the wording; 'touch every corner of the realms, and effect every faction' note that this is subtly different from saying every faction will actually get content. I am relatively sure that if every faction was getting their own content GW would have been excited to say so. But the preview talks only about the elf gods. There will likely be content such as new realmscape rules or mercenaries or the like that everyone can use, but that is different than bespoke rules belonging to each army. They also call out the previous AoS campaign books which are not like 40k's PA series.

The aelven gods are rising up to challenge the might of Chaos and the growing power of Death – but like Sigmar’s pantheon before them, they are riven by mistrust and each pursues their own goals and schemes. Teclis, ever aloof and arrogant, seeks to single-handedly save the Mortal Realms. Allarielle, fickle as the seasons, turns on allies as well as enemies, attacking explorers and settlers across Ghyran. And as for Morathi… well, she has a very definite goal in mind – godhood. True to form, she doesn’t intend to let anything stand in her way.

This new conflict will touch every corner of the Mortal Realms, and affect every faction. Treachery and torment. Siege and slaughter. Bloodshed and battle. All this and more awaits you in a series of epic narrative books on a scale not seen since the Realmgate Wars. As well as truly massive stories, these books will be packed with new rules for loads of factions, thrilling battleplans, and much more.

This new, era-defining narrative all kicks off with Broken Realms: Morathi. Whatever army you play, and whomever your allegiance lies with, prepare for war as the Daughters of Khaine come into conflict with not only the forces of Chaos but former allies both aelven and clad in sigmarite.

I feel like it's important to note that this is a massive overview of what's happening. It does seem to be Aelven focused rather than Stormcast centric, but is that really surprising? Lumineth book outright states that their return is the Teclian vanguard.
Morathi seems to be showing her true colors now.
We don't know what Malerion or Tyrion are up to.
Alarielle's been busy, and the Kurnothi are apparently A Big Part of whatever she's doing. Prior to the Cities of Sigmar book, we had some rumblings of the Wanderers having found gravesand that was associated with the Aelf that became Orion.
The Idoneth were starting to mobilize for more of an actual warfooting as of the Necroquake. We don't know where that thread is going.

Big hope is that we'll see a similar setup for Duardin factions soon.

**Danny76**

I think it is akin to PA.
But they call out the last larger AoS thing, rather than that which makes sense.

Not everyone is into ‘GW’ so if you say it’s just like Psychic Awakening, players who are just into Sigmar will just be like, what’s that?

I think it’s clearly, due to the success of PA perhaps, going to follow that to a large degree..

**NinthMusketeer**

I can assure you that these campaign books will be very different than PA books.

**Danny76**

How so?

**Cronch**

I would hope so, seeing how bad PA has been received.
I really hope the first book does something to fix namarti in Idoneth (rulewise) and doesn't make out Morathi to be cartoonishly evil/incompetent, GW tends to have uh...hiccups writing female characters.

**Overread**

I think most of the PA hate was more a case of people getting the feeling of piecemeal rules ontop of just getting a codex update ontop of Chapter Approved. Add to that the games like Necromunda doing the same thing.

I think it was part annoyance and fear that GW was going to go fully down the whole rabbit hole of "yep keep buying £30 books every few months"

**kodos**

Overread wrote:

I think it was part annoyance and fear that GW was going to go fully down the whole rabbit hole of "yep keep buying £30 books every few months"

and fear became reality
at least there is no CA book in December

**Danny76**

Cronch wrote:
I would hope so, seeing how bad PA has been received.
I really hope the first book does something to fix namarti in Idoneth (rulewise) and doesn't make out Morathi to be cartoonishly evil/incompetent, GW tends to have uh...hiccups writing female characters.

But didn’t they pretty much all sell out each time?
So whether the internet likes them or not, they’d call it a success?

**AduroT**

And now their rules aren’t valid, right? Except maybe parts were incorporated into the new codex?

**Danny76**

Yeah but that’s classic GW.
End Times sold out and then was pointless too.

**Voss**

Danny76 wrote:
How so?

No idea. It seems like the same kind of thing, a mostly empty book with a short shelf life.

Not sure anyone even remembers 'Wrath of the Everchosen'

**Danny76**

Exactly.
Not sure how, or why, this will differ to PA when it doesn’t need to for them to profit..

**Cronch**

Overread wrote:
I think most of the PA hate was more a case of people getting the feeling of piecemeal rules ontop of just getting a codex update ontop of Chapter Approved. Add to that the games like Necromunda doing the same thing.

I think it was part annoyance and fear that GW was going to go fully down the whole rabbit hole of "yep keep buying £30 books every few months"

I've seen enough people complain about the actual "it's effin NOTHING" fluff contents of most of them too. As in, they achieved nothing, changed nothing, and had stakes so low saturday morning cartoons would find it offending.

**LiftForSwift**

So we never got to see what those bugs were. Very much a letdown tbh

**Kanluwen**

LiftForSwift wrote:
So we never got to see what those bugs were. Very much a letdown tbh

The bugs weren't part of the preview.

They were part of the ongoing "Rumor Engine" series.

**Overread**

Cronch wrote:
Overread wrote:
I think most of the PA hate was more a case of people getting the feeling of piecemeal rules ontop of just getting a codex update ontop of Chapter Approved. Add to that the games like Necromunda doing the same thing.

I think it was part annoyance and fear that GW was going to go fully down the whole rabbit hole of "yep keep buying £30 books every few months"

I've seen enough people complain about the actual "it's effin NOTHING" fluff contents of most of them too. As in, they achieved nothing, changed nothing, and had stakes so low saturday morning cartoons would find it offending.

Eh I think some people who argue that "nothing in the fluff changes" wouldn't be happy unless major factions got huge reworks. Eldar stop being a dying people and start becoming a huge nation once again; Orks decide to give up fighting and start planting shrubberies; Imperium of Man is defeated and shattered; Emperor Dies; Tyranids get purged from the Galaxy and Squatted by the Silent King etc...

Ergo things that either change a core part of an army background or even the removal of armies. Basically huge things that all the gamer-side people would loathe-hate and go nuts about in a bad way.

**Cronch**

It was advertised as "big thing", and it ended up being less consequential than Storm of Chaos was for WHFB, I think it's fair to say people were led to expect more.

**Kanluwen**

Cronch wrote:
It was advertised as "big thing", and it ended up being less consequential than Storm of Chaos was for WHFB, I think it's fair to say people were led to expect more.

It just ended a few months ago and we're still in the middle of a frigging worldwide pandemic that is messing with production, shipping, and all factors of basically everything for everyone.

Why in the world do you people keep making these kinds of statements like everything is still normal in the world? You can't know what consequences are happening or where things are going--because we've only gotten a few codices at this point. And one of them involved the return of a near-mythical figure and the awakening of another.

That isn't "a big thing" to you?

**Overread**

Well the story of 40K isn't really directly impacted by Corona.

That said I think the problem is people still want "major story" but the 40K setting is already pretty insane so the major story elements don't feel as major. Losing Cadia; Imperium cut in half etc... These are major events.

**GaroRobe**

Now that we have "thin" mortals of Chaos, it makes the buff Kairac Alcoytes all the more annoying. I'm sure there's a lore reason, but they just look like blood reavers, without all the scars and skulls.

I get that Slaanesh would want lithe models, but I could easily see them having people with six packs, more so than tzeentch. Though I guess sick packs would impede multi-boob models

**Kanluwen**

GaroRobe wrote:
Now that we have "thin" mortals of Chaos, it makes the buff Kairac Alcoytes all the more annoying. I'm sure there's a lore reason, but they just look like blood reavers, without all the scars and skulls.

I get that Slaanesh would want lithe models, but I could easily see them having people with six packs, more so than tzeentch. Though I guess sick packs would impede multi-boob models

Kairic Acolytes have, since introduction, been stated to be able to 'shift' their body shapes/appearances to better blend in to the cities they're infiltrating. They can't turn into something nonhuman but they can change their heights and mass.

Or something to that effect.

**GoatboyBeta**

GaroRobe wrote:
Now that we have "thin" mortals of Chaos, it makes the buff Kairac Alcoytes all the more annoying. I'm sure there's a lore reason, but they just look like blood reavers, without all the scars and skulls.

I get that Slaanesh would want lithe models, but I could easily see them having people with six packs, more so than tzeentch. Though I guess sick packs would impede multi-boob models

In the background Kariac Acolytes are normal sized people. But they are able to change into the super buff form the models show for combat.

**ImAGeek**

Kanluwen wrote:
Cronch wrote:
It was advertised as "big thing", and it ended up being less consequential than Storm of Chaos was for WHFB, I think it's fair to say people were led to expect more.

It just ended a few months ago and we're still in the middle of a frigging worldwide pandemic that is messing with production, shipping, and all factors of basically everything for everyone.

Why in the world do you people keep making these kinds of statements like everything is still normal in the world? You can't know what consequences are happening or where things are going--because we've only gotten a few codices at this point. And one of them involved the return of a near-mythical figure and the awakening of another.

That isn't "a big thing" to you?

They aren’t from Psychic Awakening though, are they. They’re from the Necron codex. The PA books are all out, we can judge them without the ‘but Corona delays!’ rubbish.

**Kanluwen**

ImAGeek wrote:

They aren’t from Psychic Awakening though, are they. They’re from the Necron codex. The PA books are all out, we can judge them without the ‘but Corona delays!’ rubbish.

Those are things that happened as part of Psychic Awakening.
"Pariah" ends with Draxus and a contingent of Stygian Techpriests having raided Szeras' facilities and capturing a bunch of data. Figuring it out, they find out that these massive glyphs lighting off that have something that the Stygian Techpriests identify as "Szarekh".

And no, we actually can't judge things without factoring in COVID. Because, again, we're talking about where things are going. Crazy right?

We know that Broken Realms is supposed to be a Big Event...but Big Events don't need to mean that planets explode or races go extinct.

**Asherian Command**

Eldarsif wrote:
Overread wrote:
I can't quite see Flesheaters being made into a single faction with other Vampires easily. They'd share some elements, but at the same time the overarching concept of the Flesheaters is that they are basically totally nuts. If it was put into a combined Vampire tomb they'd be very much out on their own unable to really interact with the rest of the Vampire forces or models at all. Far better to have one or two cross-over models like a Terrorgast. Much like how things like how most death armies share models with Legions of Nagash.

The beauty of them being nuts is that you can play as much as you want around it. It's why FEC look at Nighthaunt and see just peasants in their kingdom instead of ghosts: their insanity justifies their actions and world view at each given time.

Plus, if the Carrion King returns it could potentially change the state of the courts as it is.

We are about to see Psychic Awakening for Age of Sigmar so I wouldn't be surprised if we see some shakeup and new heroes. GW has so far shown themselves to be willing to do bigger changes in the lore of AoS than 40k as the lore nerds aren't as invested in the AoS world.

I mean, they could just as well just call the book Vampire Courts and then Flesh-Eater Courts would be one of the courts with its own element.

I just wish we'd get the Morathi book already.

Which is exciting, I mean we still have Abhorash and many other 'old world' characters who could be carried over into AOS.

I am really much enjoying how fluid the lore is in AOS and excited to see what they do for the game to spice it up. Especially because their lumineth lore and battle tome has been one of the best codexes i've read in a while.

**Mr Morden**

Kanluwen wrote:
ImAGeek wrote:

They aren’t from Psychic Awakening though, are they. They’re from the Necron codex. The PA books are all out, we can judge them without the ‘but Corona delays!’ rubbish.

We know that Broken Realms is supposed to be a Big Event...but Big Events don't need to mean that planets explode or races go extinct.

Morathi ascending to true godhood and Slaanesh consequnetly breaking free would be my preference.

**Overread**

I think Slaanesh breaking free would be a major event, but its the kind of thing I'd rather see next to a BIG launch of models for Slaanesh representing the sudden united demonic forces.

That said I don't think either of those things will happen soon. Morathi's whole faction is built around the idea of it being on a knife-edge. So much of her character is about her being in this constant state of a power struggle - from her own body to her faction to her interactions with the others. We've also not actually had that many stories about her or her faction thus far. She features well at the start, but since the founding of the game she's not really done much. It's far too soon in the story to have her have a massive character change. Let her have time to do things before we change her.

**Asherian Command**

Overread wrote:
I think Slaanesh breaking free would be a major event, but its the kind of thing I'd rather see next to a BIG launch of models for Slaanesh representing the sudden united demonic forces.

That said I don't think either of those things will happen soon. Morathi's whole faction is built around the idea of it being on a knife-edge. So much of her character is about her being in this constant state of a power struggle - from her own body to her faction to her interactions with the others. We've also not actually had that many stories about her or her faction thus far. She features well at the start, but since the founding of the game she's not really done much. It's far too soon in the story to have her have a massive character change. Let her have time to do things before we change her.

I am not a fan of slaanesh's model range, I would love to see like the chaos dwarves make a come back, like technology based chaos would be really awesome, and more of a bull / centaur theme with mechanical stuff would be really really awesome to see.

**Cronch**

Kanluwen wrote:
Cronch wrote:
It was advertised as "big thing", and it ended up being less consequential than Storm of Chaos was for WHFB, I think it's fair to say people were led to expect more.

It just ended a few months ago and we're still in the middle of a frigging worldwide pandemic that is messing with production, shipping, and all factors of basically everything for everyone.

Didn't know the pandemic had any effect on writing quality of books written before it happened.

**Asherian Command**

Cronch wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Cronch wrote:
It was advertised as "big thing", and it ended up being less consequential than Storm of Chaos was for WHFB, I think it's fair to say people were led to expect more.

It just ended a few months ago and we're still in the middle of a frigging worldwide pandemic that is messing with production, shipping, and all factors of basically everything for everyone.

Didn't know the pandemic had any effect on writing quality of books written before it happened.

Okay mate let me lay it out for you, people are going to be at home, including the people who write the books they have to entirely be more self reliant and sometimes that means production will slow down because everyone takes longer to communicate to one another source (am a designer our company has increased in productivity but length of time to complete a project has increased). Even for writing and quality of writing will go down because people will not be able to bounce off one another as easily as they could at an office. Its one of the biggest problems with working from home.

Now I am hoping relatively soon that we will find out more about what is next for age of sigmar, I hope we get a bit more on each of the races. I am super excited to see what direction they will go.