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I'm starting an Ossiarch army, and I have a buddy whose starting a Slaanesh AoS army. Going to be fun playing out the lore-battles between those two factions.

I really like the push and pull between the different factions in the lore, and I'm enjoying the Soulwars era of the narrative. I like that Death is the big bad, and folks are working to attempt to do something about it, it's cool.

 Overread wrote:
I'm hoping the 13th. Whilst 27th is valid it seems rather "late" for the big release of the month. That said it will make the 13th an expensive week since there's also the Black Library event happening at the same time or the day before etc..

Still getting new battletomes AND Xenos 2 lorebok will be awesome in itself.

The Black Library event is the 20th, according to the article they did on it.

 Overread wrote:
I'm hoping the 13th. Whilst 27th is valid it seems rather "late" for the big release of the month. That said it will make the 13th an expensive week since there's also the Black Library event happening at the same time or the day before etc..

Still getting new battletomes AND Xenos 2 lorebok will be awesome in itself.

Surely it’s the 13th was they said Feb.
The 27th will release in March.

Now I know what some will say, it goes by pre order date not release (something I was always making the point on).
However, Dark Angels And Hedonites were both slated for Feb, and the WHU warriors too.
But we had a Jan 28th preorder for them, thus making it not fit..

I had completely forgotten about Sigvald until his art showed up in the Warcom article. Like wow. And it's a model I really want too haha. But now I'm in a soulblight mood

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Overread wrote:
I'm hoping the 13th. Whilst 27th is valid it seems rather "late" for the big release of the month. That said it will make the 13th an expensive week since there's also the Black Library event happening at the same time or the day before etc..

Still getting new battletomes AND Xenos 2 lorebok will be awesome in itself.

The Black Library event is the 20th, according to the article they did on it.

Ahh I'd got the 12th or so stuck in my head.

Danny76 wrote:
Surely it’s the 13th was they said Feb.
The 27th will release in March.

Now I know what some will say, it goes by pre order date not release (something I was always making the point on).
However, Dark Angels And Hedonites were both slated for Feb, and the WHU warriors too.
But we had a Jan 28th preorder for them, thus making it not fit..

They use pre-order dates and have for some time (e.g., the Nighthaunt battletome). Plus Codex Supplement Dark Angels was listed as a January release on the Codex Roadmap.

 Ghaz wrote:

Danny76 wrote:
Surely it’s the 13th was they said Feb.
The 27th will release in March.

Now I know what some will say, it goes by pre order date not release (something I was always making the point on).
However, Dark Angels And Hedonites were both slated for Feb, and the WHU warriors too.
But we had a Jan 28th preorder for them, thus making it not fit..

They use pre-order dates and have for some time (e.g., the Nighthaunt battletome). Plus Codex Supplement Dark Angels was listed as a January release on the Codex Roadmap.

I used to argue the same that pre order dates is what matters. But no,
Both Khagra’s and Dark Angels were listed as releases for February.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/12/23/an-update-on-warhammer-releases-in-2021/

It was changed to Death Guard Jan, Dark Angels Feb and Drukhari March...

Oh man. I've been holding out for Malerion and his spooky elves, but Slaanesh is tempting me.

If Sigvald's rules live up to his ego, it'll be hard to resist his allure

YouTube video from GW announcing the Nighthaunt battletome coming in June 2018



Warhammer Community article for the Nighthaunt battletome pre-order on June 30th 2018, giving it a release date of July 7th 2018

From Storm and Mist: This Week’s Pre-orders

Sorry, but we have proof that as long as GW has the product up for pre-order then that meets the given date.

 Red Viper wrote:
Oh man. I've been holding out for Malerion and his spooky elves, but Slaanesh is tempting me.

If Sigvald's rules live up to his ego, it'll be hard to resist his allure

With vampires strongly hinted at already and with the big Slaanesh and Lumineth updates and Warhammer Quest I would say its a good bet that Shadow Aelves are not coming this year. Heck who knows they might, but I'd not put money on it at this stage.


So allow yourself to be tempted; give into temptation; give into the excess and the depravity; allow yourself to indulge in Slaanesh

Don’t disagree.
But we also have proof of two Feb releases being January preorders.
It can’t be both ends.
Maybe it’s changed in two years of time, I don’t know. But this month anyway, doesn’t fit how it used to be.


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 Overread wrote:

 Red Viper wrote:
Oh man. I've been holding out for Malerion and his spooky elves, but Slaanesh is tempting me.

If Sigvald's rules live up to his ego, it'll be hard to resist his allure

With vampires strongly hinted at already and with the big Slaanesh and Lumineth updates and Warhammer Quest I would say its a good bet that Shadow Aelves are not coming this year. Heck who knows they might, but I'd not put money on it at this stage.


So allow yourself to be tempted; give into temptation; give into the excess and the depravity; allow yourself to indulge in Slaanesh

April for Vampires, October for Elves? It’d be spread out enough for two new factions..

True but GW also has the potential for more; such as a second Death army this year focused on perhaps the Deathrattle and skeletons/necromancer line. They could also flesh out other factions; there's a good few in AoS right now that could do with a second wave of models or a big update of old sculpts. They also might flip back to 40K and heck give Eldar the big update they deserve/need

Between legions of Nagash and ossiarchs, is another new skeleton army even desirable?

Or would it just be a fresh load of salt to dump on the wounds of tomb kings players?

Generally speaking any release date told by GW refers to the day you can add the product into shopping cart, ie. pre-order date. Dark Angels and Khagra's may not fit the pattern here but I wouldn't read too much into it because the pattern is all over the place anyway due to production issues.

Everything will be released eventually and if it's week or month later than anticipated that only means we have more time to work on our backlog before rushing to buy primaris marines with new hat.

Voss wrote:
Between legions of Nagash and ossiarchs, is another new skeleton army even desirable?

Or would it just be a fresh load of salt to dump on the wounds of tomb kings players?

Legions of Nagash is a catch-all for the faction at present; it has bits of every Death army in it. And yes there's certainly room for a regular skeleton army, even within the lore they are present in great numbers and Ossiarchs are very different in concept and design.

It depends somewhat on how GW does vampires as they could include Skeletons there. Plus GW could rework Legions of Nagash to focus far more on the Skeleton element - perhaps the story will even support that if Nagash gets knocked down a peg and loses some control over Death or over himself etc....; then perhaps the Vampires will arise as their own faction and then Nagash will have to use his Skeleton legions in a far more overt manner instead of using them mostly as grunt slaves to build and collect grains of sand.

If they could get rid of Nagash many if not most of the powerful undead would be delighted - especially the vampires....

Not going to happen but would love for a Underworlds of Nagash style Soulblight book including living elements which are so present (and essential) to the lore.

The teases of new Slaanesh models had already aroused my interest, now I am getting quite excited.

I figure the most likely is that Nagash loses his all powerful control over Death; or at least has it weakened/fragmented or otherwise damaged. That would mean that his legions lose power as right now after Slaves to Darkness, he's fast heading tobe the biggest single faction.

 Marshal Loss wrote:
This Slaaneshi artwork is absolutely brilliant.

It's cool, but, like... does GW not have any artists who can draw women? It just seems like a really weird, glaring thing that is missing from all the Hedonites artwork in that preview article. The Hedonites model range is probably the best GW has done so far in terms of representing male and female characters as equals, but the artwork... loads of buff dudes dominating the foreground of every image, with maybe a smudged figure in the distant background that might possibly be female if you squint at it. It just seems odd to me.

I figure Legions of Nagash would sort of go away.
I can’t see Deathrattle getting it’s own. I would have thought they’d be perfect to fit in with the vampires (especially if Necromancers are in there too)..

Danny76 wrote:
I figure Legions of Nagash would sort of go away.
I can’t see Deathrattle getting it’s own. I would have thought they’d be perfect to fit in with the vampires (especially if Necromancers are in there too)..

I think the Legion is a neat way to a combined arms grand alliance type army, but more balanced than just putting every model from every army into the pool.

Danny76 wrote:
I figure Legions of Nagash would sort of go away.
I can’t see Deathrattle getting it’s own. I would have thought they’d be perfect to fit in with the vampires (especially if Necromancers are in there too)..

Deathrattle tend to be independant and or work with the living (or enslave them) allying with Soulblight and others.

Man i hope soulblighr gravelords are not a redone LEgions.
It would suck because i sold mine a long time ago. it would suck to have to buy the Mortarchs and skeletons all over again

Legions are the base from which the rest of the Death lineup deviates. They are the generic which allows others to be specialists. They also have a large amount of modern plastics with nowhere else to go, and will no doubt have new miniatures to draw from when Old World hits as plenty of units can do double duty in AoS. They aren't going anywhere.

 Ghaz wrote:
YouTube video from GW announcing the Nighthaunt battletome coming in June 2018

Spoiler:

Warhammer Community article for the Nighthaunt battletome pre-order on June 30th 2018, giving it a release date of July 7th 2018

From Storm and Mist: This Week’s Pre-orders

Sorry, but we have proof that as long as GW has the product up for pre-order then that meets the given date.

They used to do so but they changed starting with necron and space marine codexes that came to first saturday of october and marked as october release(and thus were on preorder on september).

It used to be one way, GW changed. Now it's hopefully day it comes on store. Worse case: It could be either depending on GW's mood.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
The teases of new Slaanesh models had already aroused my interest, now I am getting quite excited.

I know right. I'm not going to jump in this right away, but I do have a bunch of Slaanesh Daemons on the backlog.

I'm really excited for this tome.

I kinda feel like the new vampire army will still make use of the skeletons and grave guard as infantry. Kinda like how daughters of khaine added the melusai but kept the old kits as the core of the army. I think they will get a healthy dose of new kits but nothing like what the lumineth are getting.

I do hope the varghulf makes it into the army as well (new plastic kit please).

The slaanesh stuff has been teased for so long I just want them released and out of the way.

Well as its "Soulblight Gravelords" I actually believe that it is new name for Legions of Nagash going forward. In particular the last part.

Plus of course all of the new vampire stuff and/or things. As long it doesn't involve some teenage drama I am probably fine with it.

I wouldnt mind them having some of the other Core Death have.
ITs will for sure be interesting

 Thargrim wrote:
I kinda feel like the new vampire army will still make use of the skeletons and grave guard as infantry. Kinda like how daughters of khaine added the melusai but kept the old kits as the core of the army. I think they will get a healthy dose of new kits but nothing like what the lumineth are getting.

I do hope the varghulf makes it into the army as well (new plastic kit please).

The slaanesh stuff has been teased for so long I just want them released and out of the way.

I think it's very likely that this picks up what's remaining from LoN, and they eventually squat LoN.