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We know what the newborn are now.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/04/19/quiz-which-of-these-new-slaaneshi-daemons-are-you/

I LOVE THIS

Images for you, Aspirant Champions of Exceeding Laziness:

Dexcessa, the Talon of Slaanesh (melee)


Synessa, the Voice of Slaanesh (caster)


This is just insane. Slaanesh want me jelous? S/he got me.

Good thing they are two subassemblies on one kit, but even then I am worried for two contact point with the base.

Also it seems that Kragnos is indeed a Beastmen Deity, maybe a reincarnated, old Beastlord?

Actually the base contact point doesn't look too bad on these. The sash coming down has a fairly good amount of contact on both sides and they are angled outward as well so its not just a straight flush line that would snap. Honestly a nice way to do a flying model.

Probably similar to normal keeper cape which trails a decent amount, you could probably fill out the underside of it with greenstuff if you want stronger contact point.


I actually think making the wings look like stretched flesh, like the Diablo trailer with Lilith would be cool. Hopefully head options can be magnatised so I can run them as either without needing to buy two. Can anyone work out their size + base size next to a keeper, I think they will cover as much area but might be shorter than one just body wise.

All these big models are wonderful (and unwieldy), but those Witch Hunters show that it’s not always a massive model needed to be cool and popular.

Now those deserved to be named "Children of Slaanesh".

They're pure demons of the Dark Prince, everything in them is perfect.

Witch hunters are nice and all, but these twins ? Totally worth setting up Morathi's story leading to their birth.

Looks like Broken Realms : Kragnos will be quite epic !

Danny76 wrote:
All these big models are wonderful (and unwieldy), but those Witch Hunters show that it’s not always a massive model needed to be cool and popular.

Don't be so jealous they're stealing the scene. Their daddy is Slaanesh, after all.

Besides, they're not actually that big if you look closely at the pictures. They just have magnificient peacock cloaks...oh the greatness ! The exquisite !

 Overread wrote:
Actually the base contact point doesn't look too bad on these. The sash coming down has a fairly good amount of contact on both sides and they are angled outward as well so its not just a straight flush line that would snap. Honestly a nice way to do a flying model.

Like with Kroak, it's nice to see them doing ways to avoid using the curved flight stands.

I wonder if some of the Broken Realms books will get more than one army/character released. We still have Kragnos, Kroak, the Witchhunters, the Newborn Twins, and there are still more characters teased to appear.

Like Be'lakor heavily teases the appearance of who has appeared in some Gotrek and other stories set in AOS, but never got an official model. (Yes, there was a model, but that doesn't count.)

Well, the text with the latest article does indicate that's the case:

"Just what plans do these powerful scions of Slaanesh have in store for the Mortal Realms? You’ll need to read Broken Realms: Kragnos to find out where they interweave with the Seraphon’s venerable Lord Kroak and a certain family of witch hunters."

Sarouan wrote:
Now those deserved to be named "Children of Slaanesh".

They're pure demons of the Dark Prince, everything in them is perfect.

Witch hunters are nice and all, but these twins ? Totally worth setting up Morathi's story leading to their birth.

Looks like Broken Realms : Kragnos will be quite epic !

Danny76 wrote:
All these big models are wonderful (and unwieldy), but those Witch Hunters show that it’s not always a massive model needed to be cool and popular.

Don't be so jealous they're stealing the scene. Their daddy is Slaanesh, after all.

Besides, they're not actually that big if you look closely at the pictures. They just have magnificient peacock cloaks...oh the greatness ! The exquisite !

Not these specifically, though mass wise they’ve got a bit to them with those cloaks and wings.
But like that line up of big models someone did showing size.
All look great but imagine having all of them. Where would they go!?

Witch Huntrs, well I’ll popthem in a drawer, the wife will never know! (Not that she really goes in my study, but ya know, for effect..)

Speaking of the size line up someone's done another, assuming they've got the base size right (105x70 oval) they are the same overall size as a Keeper but the body is about half the size.

They are on either the 120 by 92 or the 170 by 105mm oval based on the viseo, so they may be slightly smaller than the keeper in body size but overall quite large, basing this entirely on the skull on the base of one of them mind you.

Sure is cool to have a new Hedonites of Slaanesh book come out only to have new Slaaneshi units added in after the fact.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I encourage you or anyone to read the fluff in the new battletome, which explains things out fully. What you have there is not quite accurate.

No need to. I own both BT and I have already readed them. I remember that in the first one an Oldblood bursted into an explosion of dust of light fighting a Nighthaunt. I remember that in the Bonesplitterz BT they got mad that they couldn't bind dino souls into their weapons because they also exploded into a burst of light. Now daemons can tear them apart and bath in their blood.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Sure is cool to have a new Hedonites of Slaanesh book come out only to have new Slaaneshi units added in after the fact.

Yeah. That's been my only reaction thus far. Just a at the DLC push.
Not even GW is convinced by the codex/army book release model anymore.

Voss wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Sure is cool to have a new Hedonites of Slaanesh book come out only to have new Slaaneshi units added in after the fact.

Yeah. That's been my only reaction thus far. Just a at the DLC push.
Not even GW is convinced by the codex/army book release model anymore.

Judging by the amount of people defending the Lumineth-less-than-half-a-year-old battletome release and how well the Marine 'dexes sell, I can't blame them. Removed

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Sure is cool to have a new Hedonites of Slaanesh book come out only to have new Slaaneshi units added in after the fact.

Part of me is thinking the release schedule has been screwed up because of the past year. I suspect the Hedonites book was probably intended for last year and these new units would have been intended for this year.

Hell, we already know Cursed City was intended for November last year but ended up delayed til March.

 DarkStarSabre wrote:
Hell, we already know Cursed City was intended for November last year but ended up delayed til March.

Where's that from?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 DarkStarSabre wrote:
Hell, we already know Cursed City was intended for November last year but ended up delayed til March.

Where's that from?

Possibly intended for then.
It’s to do with the date printed on the sprues or book or something.
Not an ironclad reason imho.

Dates printed on sprues don't mean much. They design minis quite a while in advance. In fact, getting models in the first quarter of a year that have the date from the previous year should be expected.

If the sprues said Copyright Games Workshop 2019 then maybe that'd be a big deal.

Danny76 wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 DarkStarSabre wrote:
Hell, we already know Cursed City was intended for November last year but ended up delayed til March.

Where's that from?

Possibly intended for then.
It’s to do with the date printed on the sprues or book or something.
Not an ironclad reason imho.

It's rules referring to november 2020 as month it's latest valid value. Ie points released after november are newer than what's in cc and thus overrides cc values

 DarkStarSabre wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Sure is cool to have a new Hedonites of Slaanesh book come out only to have new Slaaneshi units added in after the fact.

Part of me is thinking the release schedule has been screwed up because of the past year. I suspect the Hedonites book was probably intended for last year and these new units would have been intended for this year.

Hell, we already know Cursed City was intended for November last year but ended up delayed til March.

It's still less than half a year between the releases probably. Meaning your battletome is now out of date 6 months after purchase. At least the LRL lasted a year before the battletome became outdated... Removed

2 extra models won't invalidate rest of the book you know? You DO know warscrolls are available for free?

You don't even have to buy new lumineth book if you have old. Unless you are silly enough to think you have to. At which　point blame is on you.

Gw couldn't even release new book for everything every 6 months and would cut to their profits. These released later than slaanesh book　precisely to spread releases so they don't eat each other sales dropping boxes they sell

Shhh.. don't let the facts get in the way of their rant

tneva82 wrote:
2 extra models won't invalidate rest of the book you know? You DO know warscrolls are available for free?

You don't even have to buy new lumineth book if you have old. Unless you are silly enough to think you have to. At which　point blame is on you.

Gw couldn't even release new book for everything every 6 months and would cut to their profits. These released later than slaanesh book　precisely to spread releases so they don't eat each other sales dropping boxes they sell

Or y'know, they could've just included these two in the Slaaneesh Battletome, since it just came out, y'know?

tneva82 wrote:
2 extra models won't invalidate rest of the book you know? You DO know warscrolls are available for free?

You don't even have to buy new lumineth book if you have old. Unless you are silly enough to think you have to. At which　point blame is on you.

Gw couldn't even release new book for everything every 6 months and would cut to their profits. These released later than slaanesh book　precisely to spread releases so they don't eat each other sales dropping boxes they sell

1) So now I have two random printout pages stuffed into my 6-months old battletome, feels so good. Let's hope broken realms: Kronk don't include any battalions that use these two, cause those are not released online for free.
Which neatly brings us to point 2)
I either have to buy the new LRL tome 1.0 (as opposed to the beta version from last year) or the broken realms Teclis to get access to the updated allegiance abilities, spell lists and artifact and battalions. Without spending extra money, my 12-months old book is 1/2 of a book now.
But hey ,it's just my hard-earned money, why do I even complain, right?

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
2 extra models won't invalidate rest of the book you know? You DO know warscrolls are available for free?

You don't even have to buy new lumineth book if you have old. Unless you are silly enough to think you have to. At which　point blame is on you.

Gw couldn't even release new book for everything every 6 months and would cut to their profits. These released later than slaanesh book　precisely to spread releases so they don't eat each other sales dropping boxes they sell

Or y'know, they could've just included these two in the Slaaneesh Battletome, since it just came out, y'know?

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Blame Chapterhouse situations

GW basically doesn't want to put models into their Battletomes/Codex which don't have models on the shelf at the time the book goes out - or only weeks later. Considering that the Slaanesh book was likely a release for 2020 and the Belakor book is likely closer to its original date in 2021, that's quite a long period of time. Enough for 3rd parties to muscle in and make their own versions and get them to market.

That's why GW adopted the "no model no rules" type approach which has both good and bad points

On the bad points it means we get situations like this; anything added after the book is released is an extra which adds to paperwork. At the same time we know that leaving long dry spells (years) between book updates, and thus model updates, can lead to armies and players becoming less popular. So drip feeding new models into armies (just like this) is something that is, in general, a positive thing

On the good points as well we get the fact that it stops GW adding models that never get made. Tyranids, for example, had several Codex where new monsters were present but which never got a model through that whole edition - and through the next edition. This creates models that have a viable place in the army, but which aren't produced and sold by GW.


This forces people to either convert, counts-as or buy 3rd party. For those playing at a GW store the latter option is out and the former two might be things they don't want to do or don't have the skill to do in terms of converting. Thus you could create a situation where some players (esp newer ones) are being locked out of certain models and army builds.






In the end I think GW has taken the generally right path and the only way to further improve would be to adopt the old Warmachine approach of putting "rules in the box" in terms of GW shipping new models with warscroll cards in the box. Which would be something that they could look toward doing now, they already ship with rules on a sheet of paper with build instructions and all; adding a warscroll card to each box could be something they are considering in the future.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Shhh.. don't let the facts get in the way of their rant

Oh, you mean like the other fact where GW released new Dark Eldar rules on the same weekend that they released the Dark Eldar Codex?

GW is doing DLC for its books now. It's horrific.

Blood Knights article

I’m seeing at least 3 unhelmeted heads there which should be a good replacement for bat hair lord.