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I think maybe we can move on from the starter set/limited edition starter discussion? It's not really going to go anywhere other than griping about it and we have every chance of getting more than enough of that during the release weeks.


Let's focus on other things

 ik0ner wrote:
Less lotr orcs, I assume people mean the orcs from the movies and subsequent GW game - which all looked interesting, more like 80s GW orcs, which is a good thing. Best orcs GW has produced in a very long time. Definitively going to pre-order this even though its a shame about the game.

Shame about the game? What do you mean?

 Overread wrote:
I think maybe we can move on from the starter set/limited edition starter discussion? It's not really going to go anywhere other than griping about it and we have every chance of getting more than enough of that during the release weeks.

It's directly related to GW's choices regarding how they release starter sets and these "non" starter sets.

I should have saved it but someone photoshopped one of the goblins mounted onto the crab mini and now the set seems hollow without crab cavalry.

Something I haven't mention is that I am a bit worried that this new orcs are too kunnin' for their own good.

They are basically AoS equivalent to Deathskulls, so yeah, one think is to have smar'er boyz and other is to start to have an entire faction of them to start to shine for their brains far more than their brawnz.

I do welcome the new heavy weapons, and I'd like to see the other Orruks with crude catapults and battering rams, but leave the more precise weapons and stratagems, well, to order.

 Ahtman wrote:
I should have saved it but someone photoshopped one of the goblins mounted onto the crab mini and now the set seems hollow without crab cavalry.

I would buy so many crab cavalry if they had them.

 CMLR wrote:
Something I haven't mention is that I am a bit worried that this new orcs are too kunnin' for their own good.

They are basically AoS equivalent to Deathskulls, so yeah, one think is to have smar'er boyz and other is to start to have an entire faction of them to start to shine for their brains far more than their brawnz.

I do welcome the new heavy weapons, and I'd like to see the other Orruks with crude catapults and battering rams, but leave the more precise weapons and stratagems, well, to order.

Orcs can be more than just mindless automatons that exist solely to be slaughtered by everyone else because "OrKs iZ BaD." I really like the move to Orks being able to do things like strategize and plan.


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 Ahtman wrote:
I should have saved it but someone photoshopped one of the goblins mounted onto the crab mini and now the set seems hollow without crab cavalry.

I would buy so many crab cavalry if they had them.

It would need to be something like Mud Crab Cavalry, the Idoneth Crab is very much an ocean dweller.

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 Ahtman wrote:
I should have saved it but someone photoshopped one of the goblins mounted onto the crab mini and now the set seems hollow without crab cavalry.

I would buy so many crab cavalry if they had them.

It would need to be something like Mud Crab Cavalry, the Idoneth Crab is very much an ocean dweller.

Not to go off topic but they need to bring in the Vampire Coast from TWW2.

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 Ahtman wrote:
I should have saved it but someone photoshopped one of the goblins mounted onto the crab mini and now the set seems hollow without crab cavalry.

I would buy so many crab cavalry if they had them.

It would need to be something like Mud Crab Cavalry, the Idoneth Crab is very much an ocean dweller.

Not to go off topic but they need to bring in the Vampire Coast from TWW2.

You mean from the earlier white dwarf article that they then co-opted and expanded into what is shown in Warhammer 2

On the upside the crab comes bundled with three free elf minis and a fish mini so that is pretty cool.

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 Ahtman wrote:
I should have saved it but someone photoshopped one of the goblins mounted onto the crab mini and now the set seems hollow without crab cavalry.

I would buy so many crab cavalry if they had them.

It would need to be something like Mud Crab Cavalry, the Idoneth Crab is very much an ocean dweller.

Not to go off topic but they need to bring in the Vampire Coast from TWW2.

They need to make a separate game for the meme armies like vampire coast, chorfs and fimir and maybe even tomb kingz so the rest of the world can move on.

They all but confirmed on stream that Chaos dwarfs are coming in third.

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 Ahtman wrote:
I should have saved it but someone photoshopped one of the goblins mounted onto the crab mini and now the set seems hollow without crab cavalry.

I would buy so many crab cavalry if they had them.

It would need to be something like Mud Crab Cavalry, the Idoneth Crab is very much an ocean dweller.

Not to go off topic but they need to bring in the Vampire Coast from TWW2.

They need to make a separate game for the meme armies like vampire coast, chorfs and fimir and maybe even tomb kingz so the rest of the world can move on.

Yeah. They could call it Warhammer: The Old World or something equally wild.

Wish they'd do something like that.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
They all but confirmed on stream that Chaos dwarfs are coming in third.

I assume they made vague remarks on the stream?

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 Ahtman wrote:
I should have saved it but someone photoshopped one of the goblins mounted onto the crab mini and now the set seems hollow without crab cavalry.

I would buy so many crab cavalry if they had them.

It would need to be something like Mud Crab Cavalry, the Idoneth Crab is very much an ocean dweller.

Not to go off topic but they need to bring in the Vampire Coast from TWW2.

They need to make a separate game for the meme armies like vampire coast, chorfs and fimir and maybe even tomb kingz so the rest of the world can move on.

That’s kinda a broad definition of meme army isn’t it? Between one that never existed except as a label on a map and a paragraph of text, one that was a complete, legit army but got dropped because office politics suck, and one that had a current army list and in-production miniatures until a month or two ago.

Sounds more like “things I don’t want to happen because I’m not invested in them” than “meme” to me…

 Galas wrote:

 Eldarsif wrote:
It probably feels less because of the extra terrain that is displacing figures. With how overpriced GW terrain tends to get the Command Edition is probably in GW's eye a huge bargain. Less so for us who have no interest in GW terrain.

To be honest I'd love to get actual figures instead of terrain.

Agree. Most of my current armies started by buying one of those boxes and parting it with a friend. And just having smaller forces for running demos or playing with friends was also great. I'm sorry but the "pretty expensive" Command edition gives you... 1 marine captain, 5 intercessors and 3 bikes. That can't compare with a high elven prince on gryphon, one arch mague, 10 sea guards, 10 blademasters, and 5 horse archers. Or 1 chaos lord, 1 chaos aspiring champion, 20 cultists, 1 hellbrute, and 6 chosen.

Damn I miss Island of Blood. Such a fantastic set with fantastic sculptures.

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 Ahtman wrote:
I should have saved it but someone photoshopped one of the goblins mounted onto the crab mini and now the set seems hollow without crab cavalry.

I would buy so many crab cavalry if they had them.

It would need to be something like Mud Crab Cavalry, the Idoneth Crab is very much an ocean dweller.

Not to go off topic but they need to bring in the Vampire Coast from TWW2.

I was really hoping that Luther would show up with a snazzy model but, it doesn't look like that's in the cards.



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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
They all but confirmed on stream that Chaos dwarfs are coming in third.

*soothing voice*

My wallet is telling me nooooo, but my body, my body is telling me YES!

AoS chaos dwarfs will either look like bad or really good.... i am unsure.

Not Online!!! wrote:
AoS chaos dwarfs will either look like bad or really good.... i am unsure.

You have time. It's not like GW will release them anytime soon,anyway.

sure i have time, since i don't intend to play AoS and just pick up the occaisional bits and pieces for an eventual Warhammer fantasy army.

 ImAGeek wrote:
The only thing that makes the ‘launch boxes’ different to starter sets is the lack of dice. Indomitus and Dominion should have just been the starter sets for the games, with one of the smaller ones to make a cheaper entry.

I have to agree that would be the Model for new edition starters GW always used. I mean everyone wants different things, I guess, but from where I stand I would buy this box later down the road of this edition, like I did with the others. You know enjoy a good start for 2 factions and then expand on that with multipart and convos etc On my own time enjoying the hobby.
You can argue all you want but If you don't care to pay for scenery instead of minis on the new starters and you don't care for the limited drama... you just don't bother to get any of it.

The prices have been increasing rapidly and this is also a way of doing so. I would not be surprised in a few years they find a way of milking it even further... I mean look of how many books you need to buy to play marines and etc.

The limited edition trend is stronger now than ever... Nurgle collectors box sets came and went with no mention of limited, Indomitus came and would be gone if people did not rage, Cursed city came and well lets not even spend more time on this Fiasco...
If someone keeps saying thats what other companies do or GW is here to make money... well no wonder GW gives you cursed city.

I think that AoS is not as famous as is 40k and marines and they keep saying they did loads of boxes for this edition so this may not be that limited at all.

I would say sorry for of topic but cant, this is totally on topic of a release of a limited box that is what starters used to be..

Hopefully they dont go with the train theme that fw had for them....

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 judgedoug wrote:
These new models look like an insane reimagining of Nick Lund as filtered through Gary Chalk and I love 'em.

Yeah, they're all kinds of retro and modern fantasy at once - to me, they have a "LoTR as in the current 'Shadow of ...' video games, but then reimagined by the folks who made the new Dark Crystal series" zany horror vibe that works really really well for me, much more than the first AoS orruks and the various 40k Ork iterations since, IDK, 2nd Ed.

Yeah, I've heard a lot of parroting about them looking like LOTR orcs, and I had assumed people were talking about the Weta designs from the films, which is kinda confusing as they look nothing like them, other than perhaps the Fimbul/Narzug style hunter orcs from AUJ/DOS. But now that you've made the comparison to the Shadow of Mordor/War style, I can definitely see it, especially with the patchwork armor/fetishes thing. The helms and shields are straight up Blanche/Miller/Chalk 1980's artwork. Combine that with the background that they've been hiding in swamps and bogs and whatnot for however long, growing leaner than normal AOS orruks over time as evolution/adaptation took over, and it's a perfect way to circle back to the earlier Lund/Goodwin era orcs.

I have to say, in a time when every plastics manufacturer is trying to capture Angus McBride's orcs (there's like, what, three different companies going for this aesthetic now?), to have GW go back to their roots and create an entirely new faction based on their best 80's designs is really refreshing. I thought GW had stagnated with the Kev Adams/Brian Nelson style over the last 30 years, with no chance of them being updated as their primary orc aesthetic had been set.

Not Online!!! wrote:
AoS chaos dwarfs will either look like bad or really good.... i am unsure.

To big hat or not to big hat; that is the question

 Denny wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
AoS chaos dwarfs will either look like bad or really good.... i am unsure.

To big hat or not to big hat; that is the question

So long they fit on the superior square bases

 Denny wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
AoS chaos dwarfs will either look like bad or really good.... i am unsure.

To big hat or not to big hat; that is the question

Not.

This is the best design for them.

 sockwithaticket wrote:

 Denny wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
AoS chaos dwarfs will either look like bad or really good.... i am unsure.

To big hat or not to big hat; that is the question

Not.

This is the best design for them.

Link broken.

Better to have lobsters on your piano, than crabs on your organ...

Here's to 3 editions in 6 years!

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
Better to have lobsters on your piano, than crabs on your organ...

Here's to 3 editions in 6 years!

AoS 1st edition doesn't count.....

Not Online!!! wrote:
AoS chaos dwarfs will either look like bad or really good.... i am unsure.

If they take from Legion of Azgorth I think they could look phenomenal, but if they go full Reddit memelord and make an army of oversized hats, they could look like a joke. Hopefully it's the former.

I would like a mix of both. To me Warhammer just isn't Warhammer without absurd headwear on the fantasy side.