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2021/06/20 08:46:01
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar N & R: AoS v3 and Dominion p.172.
jullevi wrote: It was surprising to see the coins available eight hours after the pre-order went live at my region but I managed to resist the temptation. I had already promised to purchase a copy to support my local store so I am going there instead. I don't think I am going to actually collect either army but they look like fun to paint and try new basing techniques on.
I didn't expect Dominion to sell as fast as Indomitus or Cursed City but pre-order bonus lasting for hours was unexpected.
Sure enough. Wouldn't it be nice if GW didn't just learn from Indomitus that they have to put in the factory time either way and just made enough copies to begin with rather than having to smooth over any outcry with a made to order wave, but also followed that line of thought to its logical conclusion and have enough stock of the pre-order bonus as well?
Seems like so far it's a pretty positive release without noticeable complaints.
Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone?
2021/06/20 09:40:58
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R: AoS v3 and Dominion p.172.
tneva82 wrote: Not fan how so far games seem to be decided on battle tactics. Objectives fairly irrelevant. Well gw wants to push monsters so...
Also leads to itc style curse where army lists are made just on focusing on secondaries.
I got a firm impression that they were both worth enough to make players account for both; ignoring either is a sure way to lose IMO. Also, if you look at what the battle tactics are it really isn't something one could build an army focusing on; each is different and one cannot do the same tactic twice.
Still available in the US. That's a surprise. Maybe GW just made that many copies? Or maybe the scalpers were actually discouraged by the queue line.
I'm just hoping this means I can pick up a few of the units on ebay for a decent price. I really just want the Knight Vexillor, but I'm only seeing it for sale from the UK and I'm not paying $26 in shipping lol
Also, I get that they went the 40k route with the banners, and it has a shard of the anvil in it for some reason. Terminator armor having shards of the Emperor's armor makes sense, since he clearly can't use it. But why are they chipping away the anvil when it's super important for stormcast? Grungni, what are you doing?!?
2021/06/20 13:29:59
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R: AoS v3 and Dominion p.172.
I think it depends on if the orders are made directly through GW for the third parties.
It's worth noting that there was also a set of 5 art prints, a squig keychain, a Path to Glory quest card, Warscroll Card sleeves (16x), and a metal AoS pin that are tied to preorders that might be a thing that independent shops will have.
2021/06/20 13:51:59
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R: AoS v3 and Dominion p.172.
The thing is barring people who want to flip both armies; this is a starter set with 2 armies in it and a rule book; but no one of those armies is Space Marines. One is totally new (has 0 established fanbase) and the other is a market leader, but still only 1 of many armies in AoS.
So the buying pool is much smaller.
Cursed City was a stand-alone game so you don't have to be interested in Age of Sigmar, Vampire nor Cities of Sigmar to collect it. Sure if you collect one of those two armies you get a boon; but in the end it was a product that could stand fully alone.
Just had an email from Firestorm Games, my go to Online retailer, who I ordered Dominion from. They had Dominion up at the rrp of £125, but as they have not been as restricted with the amount of copies they were able to get in they have given me a £20 credit and the price on their site has been amended to £106.25. Good to see companies being proactive with this.
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SamusDrake wrote: Being as this AoS preorder is going on for two weeks, it would be nice if there was a preview for next Saturday.
Previews usually get announced on Mondays, but it's very likely that there will be a "#NewAoS" preview show on July 3rd to celebrate the release.
If they follow the pattern of 40k? -Launch Party show on release day for AoS. -Announce of the starter sets+contents afterwards. -A Battletome Show when the first two battletomes get released.
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2021/06/20 15:38:10
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar N & R: AoS v3 and Dominion p.172.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2021/06/20 15:45:58
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R: AoS v3 and Dominion p.172.
Voss wrote: They wouldn't be so bad if they weren't reprinting the same command abilities in almost every article.
I'm pretty sure I grasp Unleash Hell and All out Defense at this point.
They're linking those command abilities with the units, command traits, etc. in that article.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2021/06/20 16:14:56
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar N & R: AoS v3 and Dominion p.172.
Ghaz wrote: We've been seeing hints of Chaos Dwarfs throughout Age of Sigmar. The Slaves to Darkness battletome even names them as the Furnace Kings of Azgorh. The following is presumably from the 'War at Amberstone Watch' booklet found in the Dominion box.
Both the Spire Tyrants and Iron Golems have Chaos Duardin in their warbands. Warcry bands can be used in AOS so there isn’t a reason to discount the models from the setting.
2021/06/20 16:21:41
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar N & R: AoS v3 and Dominion p.172.
Both the Spire Tyrants and Iron Golems have Chaos Duardin in their warbands. Warcry bands can be used in AOS so there isn’t a reason to discount the models from the setting.
Well, let's hope we're getting Hashut worshipping Babylonians, not really short Chaos Warriors.
2021/06/20 16:32:51
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R: AoS v3 and Dominion p.172.
Kanluwen wrote: I think it depends on if the orders are made directly through GW for the third parties.
It's worth noting that there was also a set of 5 art prints, a squig keychain, a Path to Glory quest card, Warscroll Card sleeves (16x), and a metal AoS pin that are tied to preorders that might be a thing that independent shops will have.
What?
I never heard of these.
Only for independents? :O
2021/06/20 16:37:32
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar N & R: AoS v3 and Dominion p.172.
Ghaz wrote: We've been seeing hints of Chaos Dwarfs throughout Age of Sigmar. The Slaves to Darkness battletome even names them as the Furnace Kings of Azgorh. The following is presumably from the 'War at Amberstone Watch' booklet found in the Dominion box.
Both the Spire Tyrants and Iron Golems have Chaos Duardin in their warbands. Warcry bands can be used in AOS so there isn’t a reason to discount the models from the setting.
Yes, but those aren't from the Furnace Kings of Azgorh. They're just Duardin who have thrown in with Chaos.
Kanluwen wrote: I think it depends on if the orders are made directly through GW for the third parties.
It's worth noting that there was also a set of 5 art prints, a squig keychain, a Path to Glory quest card, Warscroll Card sleeves (16x), and a metal AoS pin that are tied to preorders that might be a thing that independent shops will have.
What?
I never heard of these.
Only for independents? :O
My local indie and GW both had them as swag for preordering in store.
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2021/06/20 17:10:56
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R: AoS v3 and Dominion p.172.
Voss wrote: They wouldn't be so bad if they weren't reprinting the same command abilities in almost every article.
I'm pretty sure I grasp Unleash Hell and All out Defense at this point.
They're linking those command abilities with the units, command traits, etc. in that article.
Generally pretty ham-handedly though. Heck the Nurgle guy didn't even get the rules for his units right.
Yeah. They're not really written with players like us in mind but the more casual player.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2021/06/20 17:13:54
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R: AoS v3 and Dominion p.172.
Overread wrote: The thing is barring people who want to flip both armies; this is a starter set with 2 armies in it and a rule book; but no one of those armies is Space Marines. One is totally new (has 0 established fanbase) and the other is a market leader, but still only 1 of many armies in AoS.
So the buying pool is much smaller.
Cursed City was a stand-alone game so you don't have to be interested in Age of Sigmar, Vampire nor Cities of Sigmar to collect it. Sure if you collect one of those two armies you get a boon; but in the end it was a product that could stand fully alone.
As a result its potential market is greater.
New army is more of new units to existing army though. Every orruk player is target besides new players.
Had scions zero existing target players? Or were ig players existlng target to sell to...
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2024 painted/bought: 109/109
2021/06/20 17:36:20
Subject: Age of Sigmar N & R: AoS v3 and Dominion p.172.
Kanluwen wrote: Gee, it's almost like GW knows that and has been using playtesters/tournament names with followings for a reason...
Considering people figured out that their advice is just as generic and terrible as Warhammer Community's usual fare almost immediately, it isn't helping.
2021/06/21 00:45:57
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar N & R: AoS v3 and Dominion p.172.
Gotta say, when it came time to pull the trigger, I didn’t pull for the dominion boxed set*.
Reasons:
1. Stormcast. While I love the new armor(and SCE in general), I already have enough SCE in the backlog. Probably 4 armies worth. Had I not had so much, I’d have probably started a new army of them.
2. Orruks. Again, while I dig the Kruleboyz, I wanted something different for Destruction. Something non-greenskin.
3. I’m not a fan of limited edition rulebooks. I want something I can use and abuse. I’m trying to go all digital anyway.
4. The coins just didn’t move me. The box that they come in looks nice, but not nice enough to offset any of the above.
In the end, I got the standard book, GHB, the diary thing for some reason, and the objective set.
*If I’m bored, looking to start a new army and have the cash, I might buy one at the FLGS down the road.
"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
2021/06/21 02:09:31
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar N & R: AoS v3 and Dominion p.172.
"The Skullgrinder would speak when it suited him, and not before. After long moments, the warrior-smith said, ‘I was born a slave. In the chattel-pens of the Furnace Kings. You know of them?’
Ahazian nodded. ‘They forged weapons and armour for the servants of the Dark Gods, before the Azyrites cast down the Bale-Furnace and scattered its rulers. Stunted brutes. Like duardin, but twisted and cruel.’ He grinned around a mouthful of orruk. ‘They made good blades, though. There are warlords who’ll trade a thousand slaves for just one axe forged by the Furnace Kings"
Excerpt from the Spear of Shadows. It could just be figurative, but it sounds like the Furnace Kings weren't really dwarfs. Though it could be like saying Kruleboyz aren't ironjaws, hobgrots aren't gloomspite, etc.
I wonder how they'd even work, given they're probably chaos, and hobgrots are currently destruction.