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The helmet on that Terminator Praetor is fantastic, don't recall them previewing that originally. Really improves the model.

Sgt. Cortez wrote:
That terminator looks pretty awesome. I feel like they should have given us a Dark Apostle in Terminator armour datasheet to use him in 40K, too

Ahhh. That would be wonderful

The Terminator is very cool.

So nice for them to release them for all 3 fans of the Word Bearers.
Seriously, whose favorite legion is THE WORD BEAERS?
I would be wary if anyone like the legion that started all this BS

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
So nice for them to release them for all 3 fans of the Word Bearers.
Seriously, whose favorite legion is THE WORD BEAERS?
I would be wary if anyone like the legion that started all this BS

Word!

(Ha!)

But yeah, they're awful...

They're one of my favorite traitor Legions actually...

Mee too.

But sadly they're one of the few groups that are just so awful (in the rules) that I can't play them.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Mee too.

But sadly they're one of the few groups that are just so awful (in the rules) that I can't play them.

Bingo. I'm lucky I LOVE Alpha Legion too at least.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Bingo. I'm lucky I LOVE Alpha Legion too at least.

I just end up playing Red Corsairs for the same reason I play White Scars - advance + charge is easy to remember.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
So nice for them to release them for all 3 fans of the Word Bearers.
Seriously, whose favorite legion is THE WORD BEAERS?
I would be wary if anyone like the legion that started all this BS

Along with the Emperor's Children they are my favourite legion, so you need to be wary son

Maybe my memory is failing me, but when the Word Bearer Praetors were previewed I don't recall the power armoured dude having a goatee?

Hopefully this means that each model has an alternate head, rather than my memory being it's usually gakky self.

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
Maybe my memory is failing me, but when the Word Bearer Praetors were previewed I don't recall the power armoured dude having a goatee?

He did - April Preview.

beast_gts wrote:

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
Maybe my memory is failing me, but when the Word Bearer Praetors were previewed I don't recall the power armoured dude having a goatee?

He did - April Preview.

Thanks, I think that I thought that he had grey skin and was wearing a patched together mask of (somebody elses) skin, which would have been cooler than a goatee.

Edit: just about anything would have been cooler than a goatee

Ugh the terminator mini has issues. His gun strap is under his shoulder pad. The fire looks like kids putty caked on the very cool crozius

 Motograter wrote:
Ugh the terminator mini has issues. His gun strap is under his shoulder pad. The fire looks like kids putty caked on the very cool crozius

You might be right about the gun but the Crozius mostly just suffers from a bad paint job like many FW models when previewed I think.

They're both up for pre-order, and they both have head or helmet options -

They’re both pretty great, tbh. I like that crested helmet.

AUD$51 for the power armour guy.

Why fifty-one? Where's that extra $1 coming from?

Baffling...

Love the sculpted scars on the terminator's face. Think they'll sell that head a la carte?

I really like that Praetor in power armour. I have ordered one to use as a sorcerer in my 40K IW army.

These models took one (1) year to go from preview to pre-order.

 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
These models took one (1) year to go from preview to pre-order.

Well, to be fair to them, the last year hasn't been your typically year with the GW factories closed on and off again for a fair chunk of time

 zedmeister wrote:

 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
These models took one (1) year to go from preview to pre-order.

Well, to be fair to them, the last year hasn't been your typically year with the GW factories closed on and off again for a fair chunk of time

I think it's time to stop blaming the events of the last year for how badly FW has been mishandling the 30k line.

 Mr. Grey wrote:
I think it's time to stop blaming the events of the last year for how badly FW has been mishandling the 30k line.

That wasn't my point. I was just commenting on the delay between annoucment and them being put up for sale and I'll give 'em slack on that point.

As for how FW are handling Heresy in general? Terrible in my opinion.

That's fair.

And the Terminator is already out of stock. Massive demand or a smaller release batch?

beast_gts wrote:
And the Terminator is already out of stock. Massive demand or a smaller release batch?

Maybe after a year of sitting around, the mold finally broke?

I wonder how practical the terminator's mace is? It's got a very small wire connecting it to some promethium on his back, but it doesn't look like it can extend much further than his current pose. No two hand swinging for this guy. I guess the flames are only theatrical, so if he accidentally over exerts and pulls the plug, a massive mace is still a good weapon.

 Mr. Grey wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:

 Midnightdeathblade wrote:
These models took one (1) year to go from preview to pre-order.

Well, to be fair to them, the last year hasn't been your typically year with the GW factories closed on and off again for a fair chunk of time

I think it's time to stop blaming the events of the last year for how badly FW has been mishandling the 30k line.

I don't see why they aren't pumping these praetors out. Same with leviathans. Legion specific stuff sells, and especially stuff for early black book legions. I honestly dont understand how 30K has just been allowed to fall into a coma. The momentum it had when Prospero was released was a real win. Since then It has been dry as a desert. And honestly I'm over their rules "team" assuming it actually isn't just one guy.

30k lost momentum when Alan Bligh died, and has been loosing resources to the Specialist Games team.

Theres little doubt in my mind at this point that the HH brand has been mismanaged. It seems they'd rather it fade away and be brushed under the table. It was so promising when it began and the angron sculpt was revealed, so much promise. But now it's like the red headed stepchild.

 Thargrim wrote:
Theres little doubt in my mind at this point that the HH brand has been mismanaged. It seems they'd rather it fade away and be brushed under the table. It was so promising when it began and the angron sculpt was revealed, so much promise. But now it's like the red headed stepchild.

Thing is, the game is still popular! They were stunned when they sold through their Sabre stock not long after release and the black books vanish all too quickly. I have no idea what's going on internally, but from our point of view, they're making a right hash of things. As Midnightdeathblade said above, they should be pushing out Legion specific praetors and Leviathians if nothing else. They can't be stuck for vehicles, as I can think of bunch off the top of my head that they can re-imagine (Orgus Flyer, Hercules Heavy Tank, Attack Bike, Jocasta Grav-attack, Furibundus Dreadnought) and they have a load of generic units and legion specific units still waiting. What the hell is going on!?

There have been internal problems for years, even prior to Alan Bligh's death. They were already cutting staff and moving them to other projects - without hiring replacements - when HH was at its peak. It's little surprise that things have ended up this way.