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 Crimson wrote:
Interesting. The beakies don't quite seem to have the normal awkward minimarine proportions.

Yeah looks like there might be a bit of rescaling going on there with the beakies. I wonder if the Termies have been tweeked as well? Its hard to tell without clearer pictures.

chaos0xomega wrote:
I admit to have zero eye for that kind of detail unless I can look at two pieces side by side. So you're thinking these are legit, or at the very least not the existing forgeworld minis?

The beakies are definitely new.

 Shadox wrote:
The tracks on the spartan are definitely different from the version we have now and I have never seen that captain(?) with his tactical rock before.

The Contemptor has a different missile launcher on top as well. Plus the vox pack on the Marines are different.

It would make sense to do the Spartan in plastic then have the Typhon / Cerberus / whatever as a FW resin upgrade kit.

Looks like a Terminator character on the SoH side in the vs group shot?

Guess its time to decide which Legion I prefer in MK6

I have to admit, I prefer MK3 and 4 for heresy, it looks more archaic for me than Corvus.

But those look very cool! And yeah, it looks very much like they are becoming taller. Probably not primaris taller but plaguemarine/chaos marine taller.

 Galas wrote:
I have to admit, I prefer MK3 and 4 for heresy, it looks more archaic for me than Corvus.

But those look very cool! And yeah, it looks very much like they are becoming taller. Probably not primaris taller but plaguemarine/chaos marine taller.

More likely Dewathwatch marine taller.

chaos0xomega wrote:
I admit to have zero eye for that kind of detail unless I can look at two pieces side by side. So you're thinking these are legit, or at the very least not the existing forgeworld minis?

Those aren't existing Forge World minis, and nobody goes to that much trouble to Photoshop(?) and prank a bunch of 30K players. As for your comment about Mk5 - there's always a chance that this potential set is part of a small wave of new Horus Heresy releases. I'd like to see Mk2 before Mk5, myself. It feels like the big selling point here is the possible plastic Spartan, though of course more plastic infantry is always great too.

Those aren't existing Forge World minis, and nobody goes to that much trouble to Photoshop(?) and prank a bunch of 30K players.

I wish that were true, but theres been a number of fake leaks over the years that were in fact just peoples homemade conversions, etc. that just looked legit, several of them photoshopped to make them look like legit leaks.

I wish that were true, but theres been a number of fake leaks over the years that were in fact just peoples homemade conversions, etc. that just looked legit, several of them photoshopped to make them look like legit leaks.

On the other side of the coin, I remember when the first Primaris marine was leaked and everybody was convinced it was just somebody's homemade conversion. Don't worry, if these are real leaks(which they are), then GW is going to respond pretty quickly.

Yep, at this point I'm convinced its a legitimate leak, its just at first I couldn't tell if these were actually any different from the forgeworld sculpts.

I’m ready to order multiples if this is what’s in the starter, fething amazing.

I'm good for 2 copies

I want a closer look at the contemptor, but it already looks better than the Caltech version. Hopefully proper multipart.

Reserving 2 of this set from my flgs already. I like to pre pre order from them

Wonder if the Contemptor will be able to use the fw weapon arms.

They’re very pretty!

Extremely exciting.

If that picture is a single set...30 beakies? Yowza.

Seriously fingers crossed some of the more basic tanks are coming in plastic. Because I hate working with resin, let alone plastic resin hybrid kits.

 John Prins wrote:
If that picture is a single set...30 beakies? Yowza.

There were 30 mkiv/mkiii in the first two heresy boxes, so it wouldn’t be unheard of.

Should be 30 beakies, you can see a unit of 10 Sons of Horus up front, facing down what looks to be a unit of 10 Imperials Fist beakies, with what looks to be another unit of 10 Sons of Horus beakies supporting the Contemptor in back.

And there's a scatter die in one of those pics.

 Snrub wrote:
Really glad to see we're getting more MkII armour!

These leaks were described weeks ago and plastic mkii was also mentioned, obviously, take that with a grain of salt but one can hope. Apparently all this stuff has been heavily set back because of covid.

Hey man, if theres *another* box set with 30 mkii marines I'm also buying 2 of those too.

Now, GW needs to just give us me what we I really want - a box with 30 mk5 marines.

Never seen the head on that IF sarge, either, and the proportions on the corvus armor (maybe distorted by the camera lense or something) look distinctly different from what we're used to.

If they're retroactively embiggening marines I'm fething out. Totally unnecessary, will look DREADFUL next to existing armies.

 posermcbogus wrote:
Never seen the head on that IF sarge, either, and the proportions on the corvus armor (maybe distorted by the camera lense or something) look distinctly different from what we're used to.

If they're retroactively embiggening marines I'm fething out. Totally unnecessary, will look DREADFUL next to existing armies.

I have my concerns too, but I can't imagine that they embiggened them beyond what they did with the Deathwatch - the Deathwatch look fine sitting next to legacy firstborn.

They look reproportioned rather upscale. Hard to tell without a comparison of course.

 posermcbogus wrote:
Never seen the head on that IF sarge, either, and the proportions on the corvus armor (maybe distorted by the camera lense or something) look distinctly different from what we're used to.

If they're retroactively embiggening marines I'm fething out. Totally unnecessary, will look DREADFUL next to existing armies.

That seems like a bit of an overreaction. If they are making them slightly larger, they're not going to be anywhere near Primaris size. At most they might be 1-2mm taller. They're not going to look out of place next to your regular marines.

The proportions of those new marines look surprisingly good for non-primaris stunty marines. I’m not really interested in HH but I would like to get my hands on some of those helmets.

 posermcbogus wrote:

If they're retroactively embiggening marines I'm fething out. Totally unnecessary, will look DREADFUL next to existing armies.

You mean existing armies will look dreadful next to them. Which is due the old marine models looking dreadful, and having good looking models next to them makes it painfully apparent.

Wouldn’t be surprised if these were scaled the same as the Space Marine Heroes Series 1 Mk VII guys, which are basically the same as the newer Chaos Marines (i.e. bigger than the older ones, but not as big as Primaris, which they *should* be smaller than). If so, great news for my Firstborn Crimson Fists project, which I’m using the SMH guys for at present.