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Give a little... they'll take a mile.
Or, a slight relaxation is enough for a lot to get done.

This weekend will be when we see the change(?) with warm weather forecast, see if folks use their new freedom to sunbathe again, or visit places further afield.

 Overread wrote:
So report from the weekly shop - MY GODS THERE ARE CARS ON THE ROAD

But when they are on the wrong side, does it really count?

But seriously, your situation sounds similar to what things have been around my area for the duration, it will be interesting to contrast results.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
I never said that I was doing it.


similarly, its impossible to prove that your position is the default.

I was just making a statement of my opinion.

The polling evidence is that almost half the population are down with the lockdown, most of the rest aren't happy but they're bearing up, and there are under 10% flouters.

400 care homes in England have been infected (or have detected their infections) in the last 7 days.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-uk-care-homes-outbreaks-deaths-latest-figures-a9515186.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1589475236

400 in 7 days?

I pray that this just means that the majority of them had outbreaks before those 7 days and were simply untested so it wasn't being recorded because that's an insane spread in a very specific section all over the country at once.

That either means we are going to hit wave-2 of a national outbreak or there's been some kind of critical failing specifically in carehomes.

 Overread wrote:
or there's been some kind of critical failing specifically in carehomes.

That has happened in far too many cases in Canada and the US during this disaster.

 Kilkrazy wrote:

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
I never said that I was doing it.


similarly, its impossible to prove that your position is the default.

I was just making a statement of my opinion.

The polling evidence is that almost half the population are down with the lockdown, most of the rest aren't happy but they're bearing up, and there are under 10% flouters.

Im sure no one would bend the truth when polled about potentially breaking the 'rules' ha


I saw a guy clingfilming his steering wheel the other day while walking across camp. The world has gone crazy.

 Eldarain wrote:

 Overread wrote:
or there's been some kind of critical failing specifically in carehomes.

That has happened in far too many cases in Canada and the US during this disaster.

A lot of nursing homes and assisted living facilities share the same employees. That's how it can spread so quickly among those places. A nurse works at one place on Monday, goes to another on Tuesday, etc, unknowingly spreading the disease as they go.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
I never said that I was doing it.


similarly, its impossible to prove that your position is the default.

I was just making a statement of my opinion.

The polling evidence is that almost half the population are down with the lockdown, most of the rest aren't happy but they're bearing up, and there are under 10% flouters.

Im sure no one would bend the truth when polled about potentially breaking the 'rules' ha

Analysis suggests men between 18-24 break lockdown advice most often, at about 50% of them. Presumably some are not doing so to see their fanily but to see each other. Every other demographic has a clear majority observinv it, in Rapidly increasing numbers as you move up in age.

Other than confidence in your own guesses, why do you think a significant majority of persons that say they are following advice when polled anonymously are lying AND that of those persons virtually all are ignoring rules to see family and aren't just going out twice a day, seeing friends or whatever?

 Overread wrote:
400 in 7 days?

I pray that this just means that the majority of them had outbreaks before those 7 days and were simply untested so it wasn't being recorded because that's an insane spread in a very specific section all over the country at once.

Thats what its gonna be. You'd have no way of knowing how new the infection was without continuous testing over a couple weeks and being lucky enough to catch it right as it showed up.

Metronidazole tastes like gak. feth you very much coronavirus.

You guys were absolutely right about testing at dentists. They should have been considered essential services and thus they should have made plans to keep them safely open.

Yet another poor shotgun decision taken without consideration at the start of lockdown.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Yet another poor shotgun decision taken without consideration at the start of lockdown.

TBF why the hell tatoo studios were considered essential over dentists makes 0 sense to me.
but then again i am an ardent avoider of ink

Tattoo studios are considered essential services?

They weren't here as far as I'm aware. I'm booked in for a tattoo next month. havent heard anything about it yet.

although all things considered,*reputable tattoo studios are usually pretty hygienic.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Tattoo studios are considered essential services?

Dunno if anyone explcitily called them essential, but some US states and a couple other countries had them amongst the first businesses permitted to reopen.

That's true. I mean about reputable tattooists being hygienic.

It's more a matter of social distancing. The best way to catch the virus is to spend a lot of time in close proximity with someone who's got it. This can be reduced by wearing appropriate PPE.

This is a similar situation for a tattooist and a dentist. It's probably worse for a dentist because there is pretty close face to face work involved.

The problem is we haven't got enough PPE in the UK.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Tattoo studios are considered essential services?

Some places regarded them as that.
god knows why, believe in the US in some states that was the case and over here they got an early easing of the lockdown aswell...

Don't ask me why but the parties and population gave harsh critic for that to the federal council.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
That's true.

It's a matter of social distancing. The best way to catch the virus is to spend a lot of time in close proximity with someone who's got it. This can be reduced by wearing appropriate PPE.

This is a similar situation for a tattooist and a dentist. It's probably worse for a dentist because there is pretty close face to face work involved.

The problem is we haven't got enough PPE in the UK.

Yeah. I guess with businesses being allowed to open it might be granted to people like tattooers to take it on their own risk. I'm not really sure how it works, with hospitality not being allowed to open until july earliest. but who mandates which businesses fall into which category?


Also, with tattooers being self employed, the support they get from government might be somewhat limited.

Not Online!!! wrote:

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Yet another poor shotgun decision taken without consideration at the start of lockdown.

TBF why the hell tatoo studios were considered essential over dentists makes 0 sense to me.
but then again i am an ardent avoider of ink

It makes as much sense as WWF being an essential service...

Bran Dawri wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:


It makes as much sense as WWF being an essential service...

Yeah! Feth those Pandas!

Bran Dawri wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Yet another poor shotgun decision taken without consideration at the start of lockdown.

TBF why the hell tatoo studios were considered essential over dentists makes 0 sense to me.
but then again i am an ardent avoider of ink

It makes as much sense as WWF being an essential service...

Less. WWE is owned by a billionaire friend of the president.

F mate, F.

Allbeit the E thingy is probably even more funny considering how the fighters are treated

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:
That's true.

It's a matter of social distancing. The best way to catch the virus is to spend a lot of time in close proximity with someone who's got it. This can be reduced by wearing appropriate PPE.

This is a similar situation for a tattooist and a dentist. It's probably worse for a dentist because there is pretty close face to face work involved.

The problem is we haven't got enough PPE in the UK.

Yeah. I guess with businesses being allowed to open it might be granted to people like tattooers to take it on their own risk. I'm not really sure how it works, with hospitality not being allowed to open until july earliest. but who mandates which businesses fall into which category?


Also, with tattooers being self employed, the support they get from government might be somewhat limited.

Yes, all good points.

The thing is, when we're dealing with an infectious disease, it's not just the tattooist and client putting themselves at risk, it's everyone they come into close contact with at home.

A kot of dentists are self-employed. If you've got a jaw abscess, dental surgery may be a lot more essential than getting inked, and worth the risk of spreading infection. (Plus, test, test, test, and more PPE!)

IDK how the government makes these decisions. There is a serious lack of transparency about the data they use.

https://www.manchester.ac.uk/discover/news/over-25-of-the-uk-likely-to-have-had-covid-19-already/

Study suggests a quarter of the population may have already had the disease in whichever form.



if my tattooer opens for my app in June I will go. I think the risk is low enough in my situation.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
https://www.manchester.ac.uk/discover/news/over-25-of-the-uk-likely-to-have-had-covid-19-already/

Study suggests a quarter of the population may have already had the disease in whichever form.

which means jack all if we don't hold on to anticells, which seemingly is the core issue sofar.

Is there anything concrete saying that they don't? an educated assumption would assume that the effective antibodies will remain, at least for a short period.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Is there anything concrete saying that they don't? an educated assumption would assume that the effective antibodies will remain, at least for a short period.

Munich had a cluster of patients that were tested regularly.
It seems that Antibodies don't persist really that much.
That beeing said it is a small cluster of patients for it but it is further evidence to what was assumed to allready be the case due to multiple points people having gotten more then 1 infection allready.

Not Online!!! wrote:

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
https://www.manchester.ac.uk/discover/news/over-25-of-the-uk-likely-to-have-had-covid-19-already/

Study suggests a quarter of the population may have already had the disease in whichever form.

which means jack all if we don't hold on to anticells, which seemingly is the core issue sofar.

Which is dubious study to begin with. Studies indicate spain has got about 2 million people infected total out of 47 million. Less than 5%. Doubtful uk has got 5 times as many without similar increase in deaths.