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**queen_annes_revenge**

Surely you can buy some online.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Not that simple.

There’s Chippy Sauce and Chippy Sauce. Buy it from a good chippy, you’re golden. Bad chippy, disappointment, as it’s mixed by hand.

**Kilkrazy**

@Queen_Anne's_Revenge, we walked around in the woods between Nettlebed and Catslip. There are some right posh houses there my wife likes to ogle.

**Future War Cultist**

Kilkrazy wrote:
@Queen_Anne's_Revenge, we walked around in the woods between Nettlebed and Catslip. There are some right posh houses there my wife likes to ogle.

I like to do that too on my rounds!

The Malone era of the city especially, were all the literal mansions are.

**nfe**

New ONS numbers. On May 15th the UK had 59,359 excess deaths since the start of the epidemic.

ONS cautions that a bank holiday falls at the end of this which delays registration so the real number is higher.

**Adeptus Doritos**

Vaktathi wrote:
I strongly suspect that this scenario doesn't exist outside of people's imaginations, particularly considering that for anyone not working, that single $1200 stimulus check (equating to about a single month of Federal minimum wage pay) is loooooooooong gone and they'll be feeling the same intense financial pressures as anyone else...

I could take you for a drive. I'll sing that song from Willy Wonka about Imagination when I introduce you to some lovely specimens of underachievement.

And you're not wrong about it drying up. Some of the less-motivated persons, however, are more content to just get 'free money' and make it stretch rather than go back to work (where they'd earn more, but, you know, have to work). [

quote=Dreadwinter 784835 10809116 eeb29740e8e9bcf14dc26c2fff8cca81.png]You may be having fun sitting at home collecting that stimulus check, but I work for a local mom and pop restaurant. My hours got increased and we have been begging them to hire more people so we can stop working 6-7 days a week. We are not having any issues with business at all. In a town of 5000 people. Maybe the issue is the type of business they are.

**nfe**

Joking about the re-education camps, but not the social Darwinism. What sauce!

**queen_annes_revenge**

nfe wrote:
New ONS numbers. On May 15th the UK had 59,359 excess deaths since the start of the epidemic.

ONS cautions that a bank holiday falls at the end of this which delays registration so the real number is higher.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/weekending8may2020

The spike is almost back down to regular average levels.

**Herbington**

queen_annes_revenge wrote:
nfe wrote:
New ONS numbers. On May 15th the UK had 59,359 excess deaths since the start of the epidemic.

ONS cautions that a bank holiday falls at the end of this which delays registration so the real number is higher.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/weekending8may2020

The spike is almost back down to regular average levels.

I guess it's all relative, "almost" back is 3,081 more excess deaths than normal. Around a 3rd more than normal. This data also has a note to point out only 88 deaths were recorded on the final day of the period due to it being a bank holiday. (Friday 1st had 2,950 deaths).

**nfe**

queen_annes_revenge wrote:
nfe wrote:
New ONS numbers. On May 15th the UK had 59,359 excess deaths since the start of the epidemic.

ONS cautions that a bank holiday falls at the end of this which delays registration so the real number is higher.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/weekending8may2020

The spike is almost back down to regular average levels.

That's the data for the previous week.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/weekending15may2020#deaths-data

This is the most recent.

Is 38.7% above the 5-year average 'almost regular levels'?

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Weston General Hospital, in Weston-super-Mare, Somerset, stopped accepting A&E patients yesterday morning, stating that '“This is a precautionary measure in order to maintain the safety of staff and patients in response to the high number of patients with coronavirus in the hospital'.

**Skinnereal**

Bank Holiday deaths will be registered today, as they are done by phone. Watch for a spike in numbers next week.

I had heard from a local to W-S-M that the seafront was heaving, and the usual A&E cases were rolling in. With few facilites open, and the hospital having to close the doors, it must have been horrible.

**queen_annes_revenge**

I guess I'm a more 'glass half full' sort of guy. theyre heading in the right direction.

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Skinnereal wrote:
Bank Holiday deaths will be registered today, as they are done by phone. Watch for a spike in numbers next week.

I had heard from a local to W-S-M that the seafront was heaving, and the usual A&E cases were rolling in. With few facilites open, and the hospital having to close the doors, it must have been horrible.

The situation at Weston is alarming. my wife has some family there.

**Easy E**

My church is the Progressive church in town, and many members are asking it to be reopened even though we have a drive-in service, and decent quality video services.

I wouldn't be too wound up about it, except for the Fox News and Facebook conspiracy theories being used to justify the re-opening. I was pretty surprised to hear it from my fellow "progressive" church members.

It is hard to believe someone is going to take basic precautions seriously when they are spouting "Plandemic" and "Bill Gates" related nonsense.

Meanwhile, in the town I used to live in; their local plant exploded with cases after opening up the state.

https://www.startribune.com/covid-19-hits-81-at-viracon-glass-factory-in-owatonna/570597392/

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A COVID-19 outbreak among 81 workers at Viracon’s architectural glass factory caused the Owatonna plant to close down for deep-cleaning for two days last week, health officials said.

The plant has the fourth largest outbreak among manufacturers in Minnesota, behind meat-processing facilities JBS in Worthington, Jennie-O Turkey Store in Willmar and Melrose, and Pilgrim’s Pride in Cold Spring, the Minnesota Department of Health (MDH) said.

The company said it has been following Centers for Disease Control and Prevention protocols since it had its first case.

Viracon spokesman Jeffrey Matthews said more than the 81 workers were sent home on paid leave after detailed contact tracing revealed possible exposure. Some of the quarantined workers have begun to return to work, he said.

The 2 million-square-foot factory has 1,500 employees covering multiple shifts, Matthews said, adding that workers are naturally spread out.

Since learning of sick workers, the company also is taking the temperatures of all factory workers before they enter the Owatonna plant, said Jeff Huebschen, vice president of investor relations for parent company Apogee Enterprises, in an e-mail.

“In recent weeks there has been an increase in positive COVID-19 cases in the communities surrounding our Viracon factory in Owatonna, and in our workforce which comes from those communities,” Huebschen said. “We have contact-traced all employees with symptoms and based on employee interviews, we do not believe the virus is being transmitted at Viracon.”

**Adeptus Doritos**

Easy E wrote:
It is hard to believe someone is going to take basic precautions seriously when they are spouting "Plandemic" and "Bill Gates" related nonsense.

It's hard to believe you'll call it complete nonsense if you've actually looked into it.

No, it's not a 'conspiracy'. The virus is real and all that.

But there's some interesting speculation on who is in someone's pocket if you follow the money and look at a few odd coincidences.

But hey, do what you wanna do and believe what you want. Eventually one day I'll be shocked to find out that at least one of these 'nonsense' things dismissed by the mainstream news media is actually nonsense. Nowadays, if I don't dig deeper it's because I'm actually afraid of what I might find.

**Skinnereal**

queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Skinnereal wrote:
I had heard from a local to W-S-M that the seafront was heaving, and the usual A&E cases were rolling in. With few facilites open, and the hospital having to close the doors, it must have been horrible.

The situation at Weston is alarming. my wife has some family there.

And yet...

queen_annes_revenge wrote:
[The different] Place was absolutely rammed. People swimming and sunbathing, yet still we managed to maintain distance from people, barring the odd kid splashing past or people passing by. Short encounters that last no more than a second or two. This is why I dont see the issue with outdoor activity.

I'm not worried about catching it outside. Pretty much at all.

That's not the problem. The NHS cannot cope with Civid19 and the day-to-day services.

**A Town Called Malus**

queen_annes_revenge wrote:

Skinnereal wrote:
Bank Holiday deaths will be registered today, as they are done by phone. Watch for a spike in numbers next week.

I had heard from a local to W-S-M that the seafront was heaving, and the usual A&E cases were rolling in. With few facilites open, and the hospital having to close the doors, it must have been horrible.

The situation at Weston is alarming. my wife has some family there.

Now consider that kind of situation country-wide and you might understand why the lockdown was required to be as extensive and draconian as it is/was.

**queen_annes_revenge**

A Town Called Malus wrote:

Now consider that kind of situation country-wide and you might understand why the lockdown was required to be as extensive and draconian as it is/was.

Not really.

**Garethm**

Yes really

**queen_annes_revenge**

Sorry, yeah I guess all those people in Weston hospital must be super relieved that police have been harassing people and policing their shopping based on nonsense legislation. have a word.

**nfe**

nfe wrote:

It's probably torpedoed tons of fines handed out for breaking lockdown, so I imagine you're glad it's hit the news hard for that reason, if nothing else?

Hancock has just said that yes, they may well have to revisit and revise fines handed out to people traveling.

Literally retrospectively changing legal penalties to protect an advisor.

**Overread**

queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Sorry, yeah I guess all those people in Weston hospital must be super relieved that police have been harassing people and policing their shopping based on nonsense legislation. have a word.

So you get a choice

1) Hospital overloaded

2) Lockdown

Right now there's not really anything inbetween the two. You've already admitted that you're scared and concerned about the hospital situation and that's AFTER lockdown with less cases of corona and with only a modest reprisal of holidaymakers. Imagine full on holiday makers plus the overseas portion plus the corona without lockdown all at once.

**Azreal13**

Can we not get on this merry go round again?

**queen_annes_revenge**

So now we need to lockdown so people don't accidentally get hurt? The fact that the hospital has a large number of cases is alarming, but if people need medical care they will have to go elsewhere. The gov have already said sunbathing is now 'legal.' what are you going to do?

**Adeptus Doritos**

Overread wrote:

So you get a choice

1) Hospital overloaded

2) Lockdown

3. CNN using footage from an overloaded hospital in Italy and claiming it's New York

I know, not you guys' place.

But, things are starting to get very interesting. I'm still watching and taking in things bit by bit. And no, I don't think the absolutes you named are the only options.

**Azreal13**

nfe wrote:
nfe wrote:

It's probably torpedoed tons of fines handed out for breaking lockdown, so I imagine you're glad it's hit the news hard for that reason, if nothing else?

Hancock has just said that yes, they may well have to revisit and revise fines handed out to people traveling.

Literally retrospectively changing legal penalties to protect an advisor.

To be fair, given the haste it was written and implemented, the uneven enforcement and the wooly nature of the legislation, this was always going to happen, it's just by forcing an MP to mention it now it stokes the fire that but more.

**queen_annes_revenge**

BBC report lowest death rates for how ever many weeks, quickly followed by SECOND WAVE! Gotta keep them fear fires burning.

**Skinnereal**

Lack of deaths does not mean empty beds.

There is nowhere else to go...

You will have seen the run-ragged staff at the hospitals. Space is one thing. Having half-dead NHS staff treat g you is not a good thing.

**queen_annes_revenge**

Skinnereal wrote:
Lack of deaths does not mean empty beds.

There is nowhere else to go...

You will have seen the run-ragged staff at the hospitals. Space is one thing. Having half-dead NHS staff treat g you is not a good thing.

Of course not, but that's the only hospital, or one of very few that is in that state. Why, I don't know, but I'd imagine it being down to Weston having an elderly, and like other seaside towns, a poorer population.

**nfe**

Azreal13 wrote:
nfe wrote:
nfe wrote:

It's probably torpedoed tons of fines handed out for breaking lockdown, so I imagine you're glad it's hit the news hard for that reason, if nothing else?

Hancock has just said that yes, they may well have to revisit and revise fines handed out to people traveling.

Literally retrospectively changing legal penalties to protect an advisor.

To be fair, given the haste it was written and implemented, the uneven enforcement and the wooly nature of the legislation, this was always going to happen, it's just by forcing an MP to mention it now it stokes the fire that but more.

There would have been some challenged and overturned, but few would have had the money to pursue it. A slim chance of forgiveness several years down the line. There absolutely would not have been a dismissal like is now on the cards.

**NinthMusketeer**

Lol @ 'sit at home collecting a stimulus check.' $1200/month won't even cover the lowest end of rent in my area.