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Chopstick wrote:
Look useful, but not very exciting considered most of them are useless for the new Wyld Runner and zombie champs.

Also no right arm servo claw.

And Goliath need an upgrade pack too.

Not having the Escher book, is there much room for upgrade options on the Wyld Runners and zombie women?

It’s a little weird that all the Bolter arms shown are two handed considering only champs and leaders can take them.

 Dysartes wrote:

Chopstick wrote:
Look useful, but not very exciting considered most of them are useless for the new Wyld Runner and zombie champs.

Also no right arm servo claw.

And Goliath need an upgrade pack too.

Not having the Escher book, is there much room for upgrade options on the Wyld Runners and zombie women?

They have very limited weapon choice from their house list, their trading post choice also limited them to pistol and CC weapons, unless you promote them, or just use the model as other role.

The toy for Escher in this book is the chem that enhance their toxin and gas weapon, but they are one use per game, and have no model presentation.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Still, nice accessories. I have the other three (although I only bought two... weird), and 2 boxes of unbuilt Eschers. Not sure how I'll use it all. Honestly I'm more interested in the idea of further accessories for Orlocks/Goliaths. Wouldn't the world be grand if they granted us a one-handed Stub Cannon for Goliaths?

Yup, I bought 3 upgrade packs already, for the same price as an average game's starter box. Do I buy the 4th? Because the game is never "finished", I haven't had time or energy to even start on escher. I may end up dropping all of that plastic and resin and use 3rd party minis instead (Raging Heroes).

The constant meaningless changing of the game drains my energy for this game. I'm not interested in buying, building or painting any more gangs and definitly not any new pets, super champs or super juves. I never knew making a game "living" could kill it.

Not so much living as undead.

Baxx wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Still, nice accessories. I have the other three (although I only bought two... weird), and 2 boxes of unbuilt Eschers. Not sure how I'll use it all. Honestly I'm more interested in the idea of further accessories for Orlocks/Goliaths. Wouldn't the world be grand if they granted us a one-handed Stub Cannon for Goliaths?

Yup, I bought 3 upgrade packs already, for the same price as an average game's starter box. Do I buy the 4th? Because the game is never "finished", I haven't had time or energy to even start on escher. I may end up dropping all of that plastic and resin and use 3rd party minis instead (Raging Heroes).

The constant meaningless changing of the game drains my energy for this game. I'm not interested in buying, building or painting any more gangs and definitly not any new pets, super champs or super juves. I never knew making a game "living" could kill it.

I mean its "living" as much as 40K or AoS or Warmachine etc... It's just getting new content added to it.

The other flipside is a game with no new models and no new content released.


Consideirng most games that fall into the latter category tend to get forgotten/abandoned/dwindle in sales till they are pulled from sale - then I'm rather glad Necromunda keeps getting new content.

How many players know that Enforcers were just updated with a 3rd type of doggo (hardcase) from the Servalen release?

I play Underworlds and have played 40k and fantasy. Nothing of what goes on in other games resemble the chaos necromunda is in at the moment. It's not like the core rules of the game accidentally change after Morgok or Morgwaeth was released?

They can continue to release and sell new minis for 4-5 years without needing to make a single page of rules. Everytime they do make new rules however, it fails miserably.

They're up for pre-order, and the Escher Champions Weapons kit does indeed contain one head...


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HAHAHAHAH!

AUD$30 each for those champs? feth off...

30 AU$? More like 30 USD and 44 AUS.

And the "champ" with the whip have less armor than a normal ganger....lol?

I mean its not as if most Escher are well armoured to start with

Price is exactly what you'd expect for a resin character, £19 is the same as they charge for most of the other character models such as bounty hunters and the like.

I mean, there's a reason why I have none.

They're hardly "resin characters" Overread. They're just Gang Champs, something you can make with the regular box. A box of Escher is cheaper than the four of the combined.

Chopstick wrote:
30 AU$? More like 30 USD and 44 AUS.

Oh gak! You're right. I was on US price for some reason.

AUD$44 each? Double feth off, FW.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
They're hardly "resin characters" Overread. They're just Gang Champs, something you can make with the regular box. A box of Escher is cheaper than the four of the combined.

But they are 100% full resin models exactly the same size as the bountyhunters/champions/etc... that FW has sold for ages. So it makes sense that they'd be sold at the same price.

Also those "champs" are the only source for the official combi pistol and servo claw bits, and still there're no right arm for those weapons....

Chopstick wrote:
Also those "champs" are the only source for the official combi pistol and servo claw bits, and still there're no right arm for those weapons....

There's combi-weapon bits in the Champions Weapons pack (and a few of the HH kits) if you're up to some kit-bashing.

 Overread wrote:
But they are 100% full resin models exactly the same size as the bountyhunters/champions/etc... that FW has sold for ages. So it makes sense that they'd be sold at the same price.

That doesn't make it ok. It just means that they're all overpriced.

Those champs look much better unpainted, I was unimpressed when I saw the painted versions but now I’m considering getting one, despite the price.

Does anybody remember the time when GW was talking about how their long term goal was to produce everything in plastic, and how it would be cheaper? Now we live in a world where GW plastic characters cost more than FW resin characters.

 Overread wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
They're hardly "resin characters" Overread. They're just Gang Champs, something you can make with the regular box. A box of Escher is cheaper than the four of the combined.

But they are 100% full resin models exactly the same size as the bountyhunters/champions/etc... that FW has sold for ages. So it makes sense that they'd be sold at the same price.

Same price as Belladonna or Kria, yes, but Thaetos 23-2 is significantly cheaper, Servalen is the same price for her plus the cyber doggie, Yar Umbra and the Deserter are the same price for the both of them together, and the "Necromunda Hired Guns" are only marginally more expensive for the three of them. Until the figures went up on the webstore, I for one would not have been able to predict a particular pricetag for them with any great confidence.
At a price closer to the three Hired Guns, I may well have contemplated a purchase just for the various bits (the figures as they are look fairly unappealing), but like this, a definite no. Bit of a waste of resin, and sculpting time.

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
Those champs look much better unpainted, I was unimpressed when I saw the painted versions but now I’m considering getting one, despite the price.

Does anybody remember the time when GW was talking about how their long term goal was to produce everything in plastic, and how it would be cheaper? Now we live in a world where GW plastic characters cost more than FW resin characters.

Not the first time. CDs cost pennies to make vs vinyl or cassette tapes but cost as much.

Ebooks and buying films online costs the same or more despite having near zero manufacturing and distribution costs.

Something, something late stage capitalism. Prices are based on what the market will bear, not costs.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Ebooks and buying films online costs the same or more despite having near zero manufacturing and distribution costs.

This is a myth. With videos, you need pretty good, speedy server. Any delay and you make experience unwatchable and are flooded with refund demands. There is a reason why youtube competitors are small and few, you need to invest huge sums into infrastructure first.

Ditto with ebooks, I did university class on these and "no manufacturing cost" isn't even remotely true. With a book, you need to do layout once, for your desired paper size, you're done pretty fast. With ebooks, you need to make something that will correctly format on dozens of different screens and devices, look good, and be readable - which isn't exactly trivial and if you gave me choice I'd pick doing proofs for paper, not ebook, any day.

 Irbis wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Ebooks and buying films online costs the same or more despite having near zero manufacturing and distribution costs.

This is a myth. With videos, you need pretty good, speedy server. Any delay and you make experience unwatchable and are flooded with refund demands. There is a reason why youtube competitors are small and few, you need to invest huge sums into infrastructure first.

Ditto with ebooks, I did university class on these and "no manufacturing cost" isn't even remotely true. With a book, you need to do layout once, for your desired paper size, you're done pretty fast. With ebooks, you need to make something that will correctly format on dozens of different screens and devices, look good, and be readable - which isn't exactly trivial and if you gave me choice I'd pick doing proofs for paper, not ebook, any day.

You're acting like people need to establish an entire Netflix-tier infrastructure to sell things on the internet. It's an undeniable fact that it costs less to distribute things digitally.

Also, paying one person to work, say, five times as long doing the initial layouts is more than compensated for by not having to pay multiple people on an ongoing basis to use the physical materials you also paid for and the machines which you're paying to operate to produce the physical goods, which you then have to pay more people to ship and warehouse and deliver and retail.

No, the cost of bringing digital goods to market is not literally "zero", but it's so minute - either taken in isolation or especially in comparison to the costs associated with physical goods - the idea that it provides a justification for keeping digital prices at the same or very nearly the same level as physical products is completely untenable. Like Kid_Kyoto says, digital goods cost what they do because people will pay it, not because the costs require it.

New Rogue Doc model.

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Also rules - https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/10/13/underhive-informant-a-visit-to-the-doctor/

Darn that's a fantastic looking model!

That’s an excellent model.

Is that special character one of the ones that's had rules for ages whilst we waited for the mini?

New rules on the website.

Oh, nice! Unexpected sinister "Doctor"

Oh thank God.

Wouldn't want them to release anything we've been waiting for...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Wouldn't want them to release anything we've been waiting for...

Personally, I like the fact that we have rules that don't have models. Very unlike modern GW