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Id love for admech canticles to work like grey Knight tides do. Such a better thought out army wide buffing/multiplier than ours. Canticles in general could do with a buff, but then I guess unlike GK we also get variable forgeworld dogmas. But then, ya know all their models are psykers and they can ask re roll all wounds against daemons. So there's hope yet lol
Forgeworld specific benefits for when each canticle is active seems like it would be doable and would provide an easier way to make canticles more meaningful as well as elevating some of the worse dogmas.
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mortar_crew wrote: The lack of any news about deamons is stunning.
The book may be all about admech and that's it.
Admech are getting a focus on models, Daemons are getting a focus on rules I reckon.
And also there's knights in the book...though I think they'll just get house creation rules.
Sunny Side Up wrote: Daemons, Knights and Spiky Knights will get more or less the same PA treatment any PA faction without new models got thus far.
Perhaps a few new Strats if they are among the more generous PA factions, perhaps some "unit upgrades" similar to Kustom Jobs and Adaptive Biology, etc.. which seems like an obvious thing for daemons, especially underused units. e.g. upgrade a unit of bloodcrushes for 1 CP to be super-bloodcrushers or whatever.
But those Saturday-previews are miniature-previews, not rule or background previews (which doesn't mean it might've been nice (or it might've been a disaster) if GW did some rules-snippet previews from the various stuff they've shown, but they ain't doing that atm).
What most of the factions in engine was need is not new strategums it's just better balance and also bonuses for not souping.
Well they don't put in new datasheets there without new models so that's out. Point cost changes only if they get new model. So expecting new knight datasheet for example is rather optimistic since the knight box isn't being redone any time soon.
About best you can hope is mono bonus. But that's not very common so far in PA outside marines.
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nokranok wrote: Well, it wasn’t a preview for Engine War... I know more about the two next PA than this one. What was the initial delivery date?
Besides new models coming what more you know about next 2 than engines? Any rule leaks are never going to come for any of the books before lockdown is removed.
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nokranok wrote: Well, it wasn’t a preview for Engine War... I know more about the two next PA than this one. What was the initial delivery date?
If things had gone to plan, we would have had the release right about now, give or take a week. So no more previews anyways.
Two weeks ago.
30th of March was what would have been the 'book preview week' start.
The preorder would have been Saturday, April 4th and the release would have been April 11th.
Earliest UK lockdown could end now is around second week in May - but it almost certainly won't, as we've not hit the peak yet. So earliest realistic date would be at the end of May, beginning of June, with releases happening around two weeks after that.
I easily could see a long, two week pre-order for the new stuff as there's probably going to be a wave of orders as soon as things are available again - and they're also going to be not going straight back to normal but with reduced staff and distancing measures in place.
More so if Saga of the Beast (physical release), Engine War and War of the Spider release all together. Maybe even Pariah too.
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I think there's no chance of pre-orders going up on the 9th, unless it's a very long pre-order period of a few weeks.
There's a two week notice period of 'unfurloughing' workers in the UK adn the Gov is going to make a decision on the 7th of May as to whether it will loosen the lockdown. Honestly I've no idea which way they'll go.
So factories would probably be opening on the 21st at the earliest at reduced capcacity compared to normal. So maybe two week pre-orders become the norm for a little while and we see something go up on the 14th? But I think that's pushing it. I think I'd expect a date closer to the 28th for Preorders and mid June release. Maybe even with War of the Spider jumping in front.
I'm only talking about the book. Additionally, the admech units are almost certainly already fulfilled and sitting on pallets.
Anyway, like I said, only speaking about the book. In the current climate, I'm sure customers would totally understand not being able to get hold of the models for a bit longer, but the book and rules are surely not a problem to release.
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endlesswaltz123 wrote: I'm only talking about the book. Additionally, the admech units are almost certainly already fulfilled and sitting on pallets.
Anyway, like I said, only speaking about the book. In the current climate, I'm sure customers would totally understand not being able to get hold of the models for a bit longer, but the book and rules are surely not a problem to release.
They don't likely release the books without models. And do they have 3-4 months worth of miniatures?
endlesswaltz123 wrote: I'm only talking about the book. Additionally, the admech units are almost certainly already fulfilled and sitting on pallets.
Anyway, like I said, only speaking about the book. In the current climate, I'm sure customers would totally understand not being able to get hold of the models for a bit longer, but the book and rules are surely not a problem to release.
They don't likely release the books without models. And do they have 3-4 months worth of miniatures?
Not if people panic-buy like morons, no.
But yes, they should have the models ready to go in those sufficient numbers.
endlesswaltz123 wrote: I'm only talking about the book. Additionally, the admech units are almost certainly already fulfilled and sitting on pallets.
Anyway, like I said, only speaking about the book. In the current climate, I'm sure customers would totally understand not being able to get hold of the models for a bit longer, but the book and rules are surely not a problem to release.
That is absolutely not how GW operates.
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endlesswaltz123 wrote: I'm only talking about the book. Additionally, the admech units are almost certainly already fulfilled and sitting on pallets.
Anyway, like I said, only speaking about the book. In the current climate, I'm sure customers would totally understand not being able to get hold of the models for a bit longer, but the book and rules are surely not a problem to release.
That is absolutely not how GW operates.
I'd like to point you to Codex: Space Marines last year and the two month lag between the initial Codex release and the Impulsor and Incursors, the month lag between the Codex release and the Eliminators full-kit(which had the Lasfusil that the Shadowspear kit did not) and the release of the Reiver Lieutenant.
endlesswaltz123 wrote: I'm only talking about the book. Additionally, the admech units are almost certainly already fulfilled and sitting on pallets.
Anyway, like I said, only speaking about the book. In the current climate, I'm sure customers would totally understand not being able to get hold of the models for a bit longer, but the book and rules are surely not a problem to release.
That is absolutely not how GW operates.
I'd like to point you to Codex: Space Marines last year and the two month lag between the initial Codex release and the Impulsor and Incursors, the month lag between the Codex release and the Eliminators full-kit(which had the Lasfusil that the Shadowspear kit did not) and the release of the Reiver Lieutenant.
Yeah, point me in the direction of where a complete army drop has occurred with the release of the book in 40k?
It makes sounds financial and business sense to accumulate as much revenue as possible for goods already made and ready to be shipped to any customer who wants them. In fact, it is poor business sense to hold onto it, as all it is then is an asset (stock) on the balance sheet that you are not accumulating any revenue from.
Also, if the rumours are to be believed and a new version of the game is due in the later months of the year, it again is in their best interests to get the new release train moving to clear the path ASAP.
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So I know it's been a while...now GW is opening the online store and it's warehouses again...was Engine War the next book to be released after Saga of the Beast? Its been so long I cant remember lol.
Do we expect rules previews in a week or two? Though I guess there are a few territories the online store isn't open in yet so we'll probably have to wait for them to get up to speed with the rest of the world.
Who knows if we’ll see pre-orders any time soon. I hope so, but get that with lower staff levels they may not be practical just yet (backlog of orders, getting stock to FLGS being a priority I’d imagine)
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Octovol wrote: So I know it's been a while...now GW is opening the online store and it's warehouses again...was Engine War the next book to be released after Saga of the Beast? Its been so long I cant remember lol.
Do we expect rules previews in a week or two? Though I guess there are a few territories the online store isn't open in yet so we'll probably have to wait for them to get up to speed with the rest of the world.
Rule previews come when preorders are announced. That is still ?. Do the gw want to start releasing new kits when factories closed and some countries not open yet.
Octovol wrote: So I know it's been a while...now GW is opening the online store and it's warehouses again...was Engine War the next book to be released after Saga of the Beast? Its been so long I cant remember lol.
Do we expect rules previews in a week or two? Though I guess there are a few territories the online store isn't open in yet so we'll probably have to wait for them to get up to speed with the rest of the world.
Rule previews come when preorders are announced. That is still ?. Do the gw want to start releasing new kits when factories closed and some countries not open yet.
We got rules previews for Aeronautica Imperialis and Titanicus.
For whatever reason, Engine War has been the exception to the rule of them showcasing things. We even got a rules preview for Szeras, which is two books down the line from EW.
Octovol wrote: So I know it's been a while...now GW is opening the online store and it's warehouses again...was Engine War the next book to be released after Saga of the Beast? Its been so long I cant remember lol.
Do we expect rules previews in a week or two? Though I guess there are a few territories the online store isn't open in yet so we'll probably have to wait for them to get up to speed with the rest of the world.
Rule previews come when preorders are announced. That is still ?. Do the gw want to start releasing new kits when factories closed and some countries not open yet.
We got rules previews for Aeronautica Imperialis and Titanicus.
For whatever reason, Engine War has been the exception to the rule of them showcasing things. We even got a rules preview for Szeras, which is two books down the line from EW.
Not really. Specialist games have dedicated monthly articles where they show things off. This was the case before the lockdown too. Aside from the odd tiny rules snippet like Szeras and the Lumineth one, 40k and AoS books get rules previews in the week leading up to preorder.
Kanluwen wrote: We literally got the full rules for two flyers for Aeronautica, which is not the way things are usually done.
Apart from the fact there’s only been 3 Flight Plans so it’s quite hard to say how things are usually done, the specialist games articles do have rules previews, even if not as complete as the ones in the last one. They showed most of the the rules for the Lion in the last Road to Thramas too.
Szeras is the exception in having a rules preview so early, rather than Engine War being the exception in not having previews yet. Or did I miss all the Lumineth rules previews somewhere too..?
Octovol wrote: So I know it's been a while...now GW is opening the online store and it's warehouses again...was Engine War the next book to be released after Saga of the Beast? Its been so long I cant remember lol.
Do we expect rules previews in a week or two? Though I guess there are a few territories the online store isn't open in yet so we'll probably have to wait for them to get up to speed with the rest of the world.
Rule previews come when preorders are announced. That is still ?. Do the gw want to start releasing new kits when factories closed and some countries not open yet.
We got rules previews for Aeronautica Imperialis and Titanicus.
For whatever reason, Engine War has been the exception to the rule of them showcasing things. We even got a rules preview for Szeras, which is two books down the line from EW.
Different studio, different procedure.
In case you have been living under the rock for past years 40k rule previews start after preorders are announced.
Only exception in engine war is first in series to be delayed like this due to certain virus.
Your exception is only inside your head. Gw is doing things same as always. Preorders are announced rule previews start same as pa1,2,3,4,5 and 6 plus all the codexes and supplements past years
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