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It's presumably written that way so the unit can't snipe with the various shooty terrain features like the storm bolters on the munitorum cargo containers

but do get the the mortal wound on a 6+

 Kanluwen wrote:
This isn't hard to understand when someone reads it without the intention of arguing.

You're even going to defend poorly written rules that contain bad grammar?

 Virules wrote:
*waits for new Daemons rules with heavy breathing*

Same here...
We understood that this book is about admech release already.

Yeah, and today was the first time we saw an actual rules preview worth mentioning.

What all is there really to say about the Daemons in there anyways? It's the Slaanesh stuff, a name table, and some extra rules goodies...that wouldn't have been previewed yet anyways.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 slave.entity wrote:


"Ranged weapons equipped on models in this unit can target a Character unit even if it is not the closest enemy unit."

Except you wouldn't be able to use melee weapons with that phrasing, as you have to check for ranges when choosing a target, and melee weapons technically have no range. There will be rocket punching.
If more clarity is needed, then perhaps "Models in this unit that are equipped with ranged weapons may, in the shooting phase, target a Character unit even if it is not the closest enemy unit" would suffice.
Writing rules is indeed difficult though. That's still not an excuse for poor writing, especially from professionals.

The rule doesn't apply to melee weapons. Neither the original phrasing nor my revised phrasing put any kind of limitation on melee weapons. Not sure how you got "rocket punching" as a possible outcome.

 slave.entity wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 slave.entity wrote:


"Ranged weapons equipped on models in this unit can target a Character unit even if it is not the closest enemy unit."

Except you wouldn't be able to use melee weapons with that phrasing, as you have to check for ranges when choosing a target, and melee weapons technically have no range. There will be rocket punching.
If more clarity is needed, then perhaps "Models in this unit that are equipped with ranged weapons may, in the shooting phase, target a Character unit even if it is not the closest enemy unit" would suffice.
Writing rules is indeed difficult though. That's still not an excuse for poor writing, especially from professionals.

The rule doesn't apply to melee weapons. Neither the original phrasing nor my revised phrasing put any kind of limitation on melee weapons. Not sure how you got "rocket punching" as a possible outcome.

Sorry, I was referring to this

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
It's not "an artefact". It's a rule for the unit, Serberys Raiders.
It's not tied to a specific weapon, it's tied to the models themselves.

Ok, I was mistaken. Its still a poorly written rule.
It should be "Models in this unit that are equipped with ranged weapons can target a Character unit even if it is not the closest enemy unit"

Now you’ve included the melee weapons too, but only as long as the model carrying it also has a ranged weapon.
Which is a bit odd but OK. I mean if anyone in this setting was going to have rocket punches it’d be the Adeptus Mechanicus…

Q27: Will future codexes need older books to function?
Stu - The plan is to take the "best of" PA content and incorporate a future codex. Every Stratagem and Relic may not necessarily make the cut.

Man, as if the PA series wasn't a hard enough sell with the reveal of 9th, now they're saying that certain parts of them won't even be included when the Codices get updated.

Ouch. Save your pennies kids. You'll need 'em for the price rise rather than for more soon-to-be-partially-invalidated PA books.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Q27: Will future codexes need older books to function?
Stu - The plan is to take the "best of" PA content and incorporate a future codex. Every Stratagem and Relic may not necessarily make the cut.

Man, as if the PA series wasn't a hard enough sell with the reveal of 9th, now they're saying that certain parts of them won't even be included when the Codices get updated.

Ouch. Save your pennies kids. You'll need 'em for the price rise rather than for more soon-to-be-partially-invalidated PA books.

For those of us who don’t play Marines I expect it to be at least a year (probably longer)before we can expect a new codex. I imagine we will get plenty of use out of Engine War before then.

Great, another admech preview yesterday. Is it the fifth, sixth, or seventh ? I stopped counting. Let me predict another admech preview for today, because imperium. Nothing else matters.

 p5freak wrote:
Great, another admech preview yesterday. Is it the fifth, sixth, or seventh ? I stopped counting. Let me predict another admech preview for today, because imperium. Nothing else matters.

This was the first proper ‘Psychic Awakening’ rules preview we’ve had. The other factions will get theirs this week too, like in the lead up week to every other PA book preorder. The AdMech unit rules were presumably shown in previous weeks to make up articles in the weeks worth of content they had to fill without releasing anything.

 p5freak wrote:
Great, another admech preview yesterday. Is it the fifth, sixth, or seventh ? I stopped counting. Let me predict another admech preview for today, because imperium. Nothing else matters.

Strange how the faction with the most new content coming out gets the most previews, huh. Next you'll be pointing out how 40k gets more preview articles than AoS over the next month. Curious what you'll say when we get dozens of articles on the entire Necron range being redesigned.

 xttz wrote:

 p5freak wrote:
Great, another admech preview yesterday. Is it the fifth, sixth, or seventh ? I stopped counting. Let me predict another admech preview for today, because imperium. Nothing else matters.

Strange how the faction with the most new content coming out gets the most previews, huh. Next you'll be pointing out how 40k gets more preview articles than AoS over the next month. Curious what you'll say when we get dozens of articles on the entire Necron range being redesigned.

They could have switched it up and gone Demons, Knights, Choas knights then admech to you know balance some of the love around and keep the admech hype till friday now I'm quite frankly concerned that the demons stuff is being held back as it's actually nothing new mostly reprints going from the content pages and knights get so little anyway they will have tiny previres or everything's going to be in the artical anyway.

Ice_can wrote:

 xttz wrote:

 p5freak wrote:
Great, another admech preview yesterday. Is it the fifth, sixth, or seventh ? I stopped counting. Let me predict another admech preview for today, because imperium. Nothing else matters.

Strange how the faction with the most new content coming out gets the most previews, huh. Next you'll be pointing out how 40k gets more preview articles than AoS over the next month. Curious what you'll say when we get dozens of articles on the entire Necron range being redesigned.

They could have switched it up and gone Demons, Knights, Choas knights then admech to you know balance some of the love around and keep the admech hype till friday now I'm quite frankly concerned that the demons stuff is being held back as it's actually nothing new mostly reprints going from the content pages and knights get so little anyway they will have tiny previres or everything's going to be in the artical anyway.

generally GW faction focuses on one and then moves to the next. we're only on tuesday, with the pre-orders up saturday, chances are we'll see wendsday devoted to knights, thursday chaos knights and friday deamons (or something along those lines)

 ImAGeek wrote:

 p5freak wrote:
Great, another admech preview yesterday. Is it the fifth, sixth, or seventh ? I stopped counting. Let me predict another admech preview for today, because imperium. Nothing else matters.

This was the first proper ‘Psychic Awakening’ rules preview we’ve had. The other factions will get theirs this week too, like in the lead up week to every other PA book preorder. The AdMech unit rules were presumably shown in previous weeks to make up articles in the weeks worth of content they had to fill without releasing anything.

Not true. New admech units were previewed before, their datasheets are printed in engine war, and they are released with engine war. Therefore, those previews were also engine war rules previews.

Ice_can wrote:

 xttz wrote:

 p5freak wrote:
Great, another admech preview yesterday. Is it the fifth, sixth, or seventh ? I stopped counting. Let me predict another admech preview for today, because imperium. Nothing else matters.

Strange how the faction with the most new content coming out gets the most previews, huh. Next you'll be pointing out how 40k gets more preview articles than AoS over the next month. Curious what you'll say when we get dozens of articles on the entire Necron range being redesigned.

They could have switched it up and gone Demons, Knights, Choas knights then admech to you know balance some of the love around and keep the admech hype till friday now I'm quite frankly concerned that the demons stuff is being held back as it's actually nothing new mostly reprints going from the content pages and knights get so little anyway they will have tiny previres or everything's going to be in the artical anyway.

Generally first preview would be expected to be on the one that is most featured in the book...

But yeah. Let's start on smallest ones just to satisfy internet complainers.


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 p5freak wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 p5freak wrote:
Great, another admech preview yesterday. Is it the fifth, sixth, or seventh ? I stopped counting. Let me predict another admech preview for today, because imperium. Nothing else matters.

This was the first proper ‘Psychic Awakening’ rules preview we’ve had. The other factions will get theirs this week too, like in the lead up week to every other PA book preorder. The AdMech unit rules were presumably shown in previous weeks to make up articles in the weeks worth of content they had to fill without releasing anything.

Not true. New admech units were previewed before, their datasheets are printed in engine war, and they are released with engine war. Therefore, those previews were also engine war rules previews.

Whcih were ad tempora out of normal order of operations because of corona.

Now they are on standard process that was written in preparation even before corona lockdown. They should go and redo already done work just to satisfy forum whiners? Lol. It's sooooooooo earthshattering for random people in network to get daemon preview now rather than say tomorrow. They can do sooooooooo much with gaming and painting thanks to that! Or not...

Choas Knights preview is up

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/05/27/new-rules-for-chaos-knights/

Households are a thing, new warlord traits and relics along with build your own house, but buidk your own looks a bit meh to be honest at first glance, probably going to be better off with one of the named ones.

That wardog strat is pretty tastey!

So are these ontop of the rules for Iconoclast etc or instead of

Apologies if the following has already been posted...

It was posted in other region prices, not USD.

$60 for Pteraxii is stupid. It's just stupid.
It's Electropriests level of stupid. I have zero Electropriests and it looks like I will have zero Pteraxii.

The SC is $95 rather than $100, which is legitimately a great deal as the Skorpius and Techpriest alone are $105, the Skitarii bring it up to $149 once the price bump hits. So you save $50.

 p5freak wrote:
Great, another admech preview yesterday. Is it the fifth, sixth, or seventh ? I stopped counting. Let me predict another admech preview for today, because imperium. Nothing else matters.

Eating Crow yet? Chaos Knights!

 Tamwulf wrote:

 p5freak wrote:
Great, another admech preview yesterday. Is it the fifth, sixth, or seventh ? I stopped counting. Let me predict another admech preview for today, because imperium. Nothing else matters.

Eating Crow yet? Chaos Knights!

Ooh, maybe we'll get daemons tomorrow!

Archeopter for 100? :/

Maybe they'll release it in a start collecting! in a few years...

Deep strike for War Dogs

 Tamwulf wrote:

 p5freak wrote:
Great, another admech preview yesterday. Is it the fifth, sixth, or seventh ? I stopped counting. Let me predict another admech preview for today, because imperium. Nothing else matters.

Eating Crow yet? Chaos Knights!

I meant tomorrow when i said today

 GaroRobe wrote:
Archeopter for 100? :/

Maybe they'll release it in a start collecting! in a few years...

Yeah, these prices do not bode well for the upcoming Necron Release...

Or any release at all, out side of the occasional 'Start Collecting' box!

Ouch!

Higher prices for Start Collecting, higher prices for Starter sets, and just higher prices in general. Fun times indeed

I wonder if the Wardog deepstrike will be best used on the shooty version as a way to make sure you get a full turn of firing your autocannons before the enemy can shoot you? And with a range of 60" on the autocannons you can easily come in on your own board edge and still be in range.

All these deep strike strategms seem oddly pointless when they've already said that 9th will give you the option to hold anything in reserve for cp. What's the point of having any of these specific strategms if these books were written with 9th in mind?

 GaroRobe wrote:
Higher prices for Start Collecting, higher prices for Starter sets, and just higher prices in general. Fun times indeed

Start Collecting: Skitarii right now is $95.
The new one is:
$30 Techpriest Enginseer
$75 Skorpius Disintegrator/Dunerider
$40 Skitarii(price raise has them going to $44)

Old one is:
$36 Techpriest Dominus
$75 Onager(which no longer can squadron, one of the big draws of the old set)
$40 Skitarii(raise has them going to $44)

You get $151 of content in the old one vs $145...but since Onagers aren't a double build unit and aren't able to be squadroned anymore and Dominus are fairly hefty pointswise, who the hell cares?