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 Sherrypie wrote:
All Death Guard pages leaked in German. Looking pretty fun, I like the fact that there's plenty of upgrade stratagems for the whole battle like giving Disgustingly Resilient to any unit (1 CP for 12 or less wounds, 2 CP for above) or 1 CP to give Lord of Contagion the reroll 1's aura.

Finally, my dreadnoughts don't have to weep in shame for being less sturdy than the terminators next to them

Link please?

 Jidmah wrote:

 Sherrypie wrote:
All Death Guard pages leaked in German. Looking pretty fun, I like the fact that there's plenty of upgrade stratagems for the whole battle like giving Disgustingly Resilient to any unit (1 CP for 12 or less wounds, 2 CP for above) or 1 CP to give Lord of Contagion the reroll 1's aura.

Finally, my dreadnoughts don't have to weep in shame for being less sturdy than the terminators next to them

Link please?

There's pictures of all the pages in "40k Death Guard Players - Plague Marines of Nurgle" group at least, here https://www.facebook.com/groups/193330554495910/permalink/903485790147046/

Thanks!

So you can have Disgustingly Resilient leviathans? Nice. If they keep the machine malifica rule in the new fw books one of them could be pretty nasty with the new 9th edition vehicle rules.

Leviathan Hellforged Dreadnought is the best unit to put the FNP 5+ save on them, probably. I cannot see worth it to put it in nearly everything else.

Wow, a Strat to give Plague Marine Bolters an ability they should've had in the first place!

All these rules did was improve on what was already good in the codex basically. The stuff that wasn't already good really did not improve because STRATAGEMS EVERYONE!!!!

I think the 4++ defilers would also enjoy having DR, as would possessed.
For just 1 CP, you can also give it rhinos, helbrutes or predators.

It's pretty much everyone's wish list plus a ton of stuff pile on that. I'm very happy, especially about the LoC stratagem. Finally it he has a reason to exist.

The only odd thing is that there is a stratagem handing out -2 to hit when we already have confirmation that modifiers will be capped at -1.

 Galas wrote:
Leviathan Hellforged Dreadnought is the best unit to put the FNP 5+ save on them, probably. I cannot see worth it to put it in nearly everything else.

Hellforged LR Achilles seems like it will be a very strong option in a Blightwing list- 2+/4++/5+++ w T8 and 19 wounds, especially with the 9ed vehicle rules. Throw a -1 to hit on it with miasma for extra trolling.

Pre-9th, Fire Raptor with -2 to be hit get a lot out of it too.

JDarion wrote:

 Galas wrote:
Leviathan Hellforged Dreadnought is the best unit to put the FNP 5+ save on them, probably. I cannot see worth it to put it in nearly everything else.

Hellforged LR Achilles seems like it will be a very strong option in a Blightwing list- 2+/4++/5+++ w T8 and 19 wounds, especially with the 9ed vehicle rules. Throw a -1 to hit on it with miasma for extra trolling.

Pre-9th, Fire Raptor with -2 to be hit get a lot out of it too.

Difficulty: the LR Achilles is no longer on the fw website and is therefore most likely OOP and soon to be headed to Legends.

The best part about this new Death Guard update is that a few of their unique characters just went OOP.

Wait... that's not good at all...

Removed because there's a better breakdown in the tactics section.

So does anyone have pics of the death guard pages? I've tried that link to Facebook, but it seems to be private page. I'm thinking about big unit of plague marines, since those rumoured buffs synergize well..

Havent seen anything on Fabius either. What units are allowed for Creations of Bile (and werent they called Agents of Bile earlier?

Looks like Posessed units (which go against his fluff but fit the Stats I guess), but I was hoping for some Spawn related stratagems.

Mayhaps they are supposed to represent rabid miscreations rather than actual possessed?

 Spreelock wrote:
So does anyone have pics of the death guard pages? I've tried that link to Facebook, but it seems to be private page. I'm thinking about big unit of plague marines, since those rumoured buffs synergize well..

I can’t find them either which is odd.

Any news on Bile?
The spider is indeed a man of shadows, it’s the only one that avoided the rule leak :-p

Wer liest und schreibt Deutsch? Ich brauche eine deutsche Person, die das gestern verdammt noch mal übersetzt!


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 Jidmah wrote:

 Sherrypie wrote:
All Death Guard pages leaked in German. Looking pretty fun, I like the fact that there's plenty of upgrade stratagems for the whole battle like giving Disgustingly Resilient to any unit (1 CP for 12 or less wounds, 2 CP for above) or 1 CP to give Lord of Contagion the reroll 1's aura.

Finally, my dreadnoughts don't have to weep in shame for being less sturdy than the terminators next to them

Link please?

Entschuldigen Sie bitte. Haben Sie einen Moment Zeit für Fabius Bile und um seine Schriftrollen vom Toten Meer zu übersetzen?!? lol

Mein Gott! Nerf, bitte!

Well the first part is just faction name and trait:
Which we allready knew.

page 2 is fabius, aka he get's a 5+++ and d3 regeneration that is also allready known. his nice little transportable medic automata works like a chainsword on steroids though. Sidenote the surgeon acolythe doesn't impact his morale.


Relics:
Living armor:
Every turn regain 1 lost W and SV throws get modified by +1 (except ++)
Allseeinghelmet: So long model with this relique is on the field you can throw for each CP you use a D6 on 5+ you regain that CP.
Hypergrowth ammo: Decide if you fire it, wounds on 2 + except vehicles, 1 shot only D4.

The other 2 stratagems on that page are only if you are battleforged fully aka no allies:
Poisoned claws: Handweapons hit throws on 6 automatically hit and wound. (chaos cultists are excempt because yes)
Monstrous (faces i guess) : Chose a unit: all units within 6" of said units gain that enemies have to subrtact -1 to hit rolls against them.


Other stratagems:
Hyper adaptable sinews i guess:
Advance and charge, +1 to the throws for advance and charge.

Gaze of the master:
within 12 " of your warlord, you can reroll 1 hit roll in melee or the shooting phase, now's the time for the lascannon to hit i guess.

Chithinous -skin (probably:
use in your opponents shooting phase if he targets one of your infantry: that unit gains +1 to T value for that turn.

Captured Alive:
If a model in melee is slain by a "biles creatures" infantry model the loss counts as 2 models for morale until the end of the battle.
you can mark every enemy model only once per battle with this.


And the last one is a Charachter modification one
Superior creation:
Charachter models only: pregame, only once:

Chose one of the 3 buffs :

excellent testsubject:
+ 1 S and T


masters hunting dog:
+1 to charge and advance throws. If you charged that round +1 A , also works for heroic interventions


insatiable biology:
6 +++ aswell as if a enemy model got destroyed in the meleephase around it within 1" it regains D3 W

 Nid Bits wrote:
Wer liest und schreibt Deutsch? Ich brauche eine deutsche Person, die das gestern verdammt noch mal übersetzt!


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 Jidmah wrote:

 Sherrypie wrote:
All Death Guard pages leaked in German. Looking pretty fun, I like the fact that there's plenty of upgrade stratagems for the whole battle like giving Disgustingly Resilient to any unit (1 CP for 12 or less wounds, 2 CP for above) or 1 CP to give Lord of Contagion the reroll 1's aura.

Finally, my dreadnoughts don't have to weep in shame for being less sturdy than the terminators next to them

Link please?

Entschuldigen Sie bitte. Haben Sie einen Moment Zeit für Fabius Bile und um seine Schriftrollen vom Toten Meer zu übersetzen?!? lol

I don't have lot of time right now, so I'll just do a quick run-down, I'll try not to skip anything important.

-First page-
Keywords: If Fabius Bile is your warlord, you can replace <Legion> with Creations of Bile. You can only replace <Legion> with Creations of Bile if Fabious Bile is your warlord.

All units in a Creations of Bile detachment receive the following Rules:

Web of the Spider: If battleforged, gain objective secured
If battleforged, all CHARACTER, INFANTRY (except cultists), BIKER and HELBRUTE units gain +1 to movement and strength.
Note that Fabius Bile and FALLEN can never benefit from a legion's ability.

- Page 2 -
The only things that weren't spoiled by GW already is:
Xyclos-Something - 18" Pistol 3 S2 AP-2 D2 always wounds on a 2+ unless the target is VEHICLE or TITANIC
Frag and krak grenade
Acolyte has a melee weapon with S user AP-1 D1

85 points, 5 for acolyte

Relics:
Relics can be given to Creations of Bile CHARACTERS
Living Armor: At the beginning of your turn, regenerate 1 wound, +1 to saving throws (invulnerable not affected)
All-Seeing Helm: Whenever you spend a CP, roll a d6. On a 5+ the CP is refunded
Hypergrowth Projecile: Can be given to a model with bolt pistol, bolter or combi-bolter. When you shoot this weapon, you can decide to shoot the Hypergrowth Projecile. If you do, make only one attack, but it always wounds on a 2+ (unless the target is a VEHICLE) and the damage value is 4. (no mention of once per game!)

Stratagems (none work for cultists):
1 CP: In combat, unmodified hit rolls of 6 automatically wound for one unit
1 CP: Use at the beginning of any phase. Until end of turn -1 to hit when attacking target INFANTRY unit.
1 CP: Use a beginning of movement. INFANTRY unit can charge even if it has advanced this turn and get +1 to charge and advance movement
1 CP: Use during shooting or fight phase. Pick an INFANTRY unit withing 12" of your warlord and visible to him. Re-roll hit rolls for the rest of the phase.
1 CP: Use when INFANTRY unit gets attacked during shooting. +1 toughness until end of phase.
1 CP: Use when one of your INFANTRY models (including cultists!) kills a model from an enemy unit. For the rest of the battle, every model lost counts as two models list for moral purposes. This stratagem can only be used once per enemy unit.
Superior Creation(the long one) 1 CP: Use before battle, can only be used once. Pick one of your CHARACTERS that is not Fabius Bile. It gains one of the following abilities:
1) +1S, +1T
2) Add 1 to charge and advance rolls. +1A when charging, charged or heroic intervention
3) 6+++, regenerates d3 at the end of the fight phase if a model was destroyed within 1"

Damn, too slow



Ok, the first page is the usual stuff, legion is replaced by creatures of bile(Biles Geschöpfe). Net of the spider (Netz der Spinne) is obsec. Legion trait, S+1 and M+1, applies to characters, infantry, helbrute, bikers, except bile himself, cultists and fallen.

Second page is biles datasheet. Very little change, except what has already been previewed on WC. In order to enhance a unit, it must be wholly within 6" of bile, and you roll a dice for each model, on a roll of 1 the model dies.

Third page is relics. If bile is your warlord you can pick one relic and give it to one creatures of bile character, instead of any other chaos relic. Named characters cannot be given relics, as usual.

First relic is living tank (lebender Panzer) At the beginning of each of your turns a model with that relic regains 1 lost wound. When resolving an attack against that model add 1 to the saving throw (inv are not affected).
Second relic is all helm of all-seeing (allsehender Helm), already previewed on WC.
Third relic is hyper growth bullets (Hyperwachstumgeschosse) When you give this relic to a model choose a boltweapon. When shooting with that weapon you can choose to fire hyper growth bullets instead. Make only one attack, and it always wounds on 2+ (except when shooting a vehicle, then its S4), and damage is 4.

Two stratagems : Poisonous claws (giftige Klauen) Use this strat in the fight phase, when a creatures of bile unit is choosen to fight with. Until the end of the phase, when using its basic melee profile (S:user AP0 D1), an unmodified hit roll of 6 automatically hits and wounds. Do not make a wound roll. The other is monstrous visages, already previewed on WC.

Fourth page is stratagems : Macrotensile sinews, already previewed on WC.

Under the masters vision (Unter dem Blick des Meisters) Use this start in the shoot or fight phase, when a creatures of bile infantry unit (except cultists) is within 12" of your warlord, and visible to him, is choosen to shoot or fight. Until the end of the phase you can reroll the hit roll, when resolving an attack made by a model in that unit.
Layer of chitin skin (Chitin-Hautschicht) Use this strat in the opponents shooting phase, when a creature of bile infantry (except cultists) is choosen as a target for an attack.Add 1 to the toughness characteristic of the chosen unit.
Caught alive (Lebendig gefangen) Use this strat in the fight phase when an enemy model from an enemy unit is killed with a melee weapon by a creatures of bile infantry unit from your army. For the remainder of the battle, for the purposes of morale tests, any killed model from that unit counts as two models. You can only choose each enemy unit once for this stratagem.
Superior creation (Überlegene Schöpfung) Use this strat before the battle. Choose a creature of bile character which isnt bile. You can give that model one of the abilities below. You can only use this strat once per battle. Excellent test subject (Exzellentes Testsubjekt) S+1 and T+1.
The masters hunting dog (Des Meisters Jagdhund) Add 1 to advance and charge rolls. Also add 1 to the attack characteristic when this models charges, was charged, or performs a heroic intervention.
Insatiable biology (unersättliche Biologie) Roll a D6 when this models loses a wound, on a roll of 6 it doesnt lose that wound. In addition, this model regains D3 lost wounds at the end of the fight phase, if one enemy model was killed within 1" of this model.

It's not really impresive overall, alot of fluffy modifications to units on top of the 6 units you can modify . More movement and charge rolls which might make him into the actual melee and CQC army.

Btw, the cultists are not excluded from biles enhanced warriors rule if your surgeon acolyth is still around at the time you modify them you can guarantee T4 cultists, which is impressive in and of itself, normally T4 chaff is reserved for DG or lucky mutants over in R&H.

Why would you use Hypergrowth Bullets when for just 1CP you can use Daemon Shells? Also I think it's GREAT Bile doesn't benefit at all from his own Legion Trait equivalent. That would've been broken ya know. Bile with M7"? Yikes!

gak release as expected.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Also I think it's GREAT Bile doesn't benefit at all from his own Legion Trait equivalent. That would've been broken ya know. Bile with M7"? Yikes!

Bile is no fool. He's not using that stuff on himself until he has it perfected.

Ye it seems with strategems and biles abilities his force is built around making huge possessed bomb and just launching them up the field (maybe you can convert the possessed to be his gland hounds), though he will suffer from not being able to keep up with them, I will likely use him to buff up a possessed ball then have him stand back buffing noise marines and other backline units as an EC force rather than his sub faction.

Would have been nice if he gave out a feel no pain aura atleast which would make him viable in comps that are not just doomball possessed. You might be able to make use of him with a huge 20 man combat elixered noise marine or terminator blob

It does look to me like the intent is for people to be using possessed for counts-as test subjects. Cool in my book.

 Mothman wrote:
Ye it seems with strategems and biles abilities his force is built around making huge possessed bomb and just launching them up the field (maybe you can convert the possessed to be his gland hounds), though he will suffer from not being able to keep up with them, I will likely use him to buff up a possessed ball then have him stand back buffing noise marines and other backline units as an EC force rather than his sub faction.

Would have been nice if he gave out a feel no pain aura atleast which would make him viable in comps that are not just doomball possessed. You might be able to make use of him with a huge 20 man combat elixered noise marine or terminator blob

His Possessed Bomb won't be as good as Alpha Legion though so who cares?

In English:

So mostly garbage as expected

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
So mostly garbage as expected

Don't be so harsh with yourself