Psychic Awakening: Pariah & DW/Harlis in White Dwarf.

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**Gadzilla666**

ERJAK wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
Players wanted "dynamic story" rather than setting

You described what 40k originally was. Then gw gave players what they wanted. Saturday cartoon

Sorry if some of us got bored with 'LOOK HOW SAD EVERYONE IS!!! ALL THE TIME!!! NOTHING BUT SADNESS!!! LETS GO LISTEN TO CANNIBAL CORPSE ALL DAY GUYS!!!' Which is what 40k actually was.

Cannibal Corpse, and death metal in general, has absolutely nothing to do with "being sad all the time". You've obviously never seen them live in concert.

**Slayer-Fan123**

Gadzilla666 wrote:
ERJAK wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
Players wanted "dynamic story" rather than setting

You described what 40k originally was. Then gw gave players what they wanted. Saturday cartoon

Sorry if some of us got bored with 'LOOK HOW SAD EVERYONE IS!!! ALL THE TIME!!! NOTHING BUT SADNESS!!! LETS GO LISTEN TO CANNIBAL CORPSE ALL DAY GUYS!!!' Which is what 40k actually was.

Cannibal Corpse, and death metal in general, has absolutely nothing to do with "being sad all the time". You've obviously never seen them live in concert.

Yeah they're more akin to watching a Horror movie live. If you want sad you can go either two routes: The Cure/The Smiths/Joy Division route or the Depressive Black Metal route. The former stuff aren't great but compared to the latter...it's the second coming of Rush or something. Example:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rXCmJr6QCBU

**Kanluwen**

I love that they chose to reuse this piece of art:

Spoiler:

But they edited what the holotank has in it.

Anyways, Pariah article up.

**Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl**

ERJAK wrote:
Sorry if some of us got bored with 'LOOK HOW SAD EVERYONE IS!!! ALL THE TIME!!! NOTHING BUT SADNESS!!! LETS GO LISTEN TO CANNIBAL CORPSE ALL DAY GUYS!!!' Which is what 40k actually was.

Cannibal Corpse isn't sad. Like, it's more angry all the time than sad all the time. Could have at least picked a doom metal band or something.

H.B.M.C. wrote:
GW: Hey Sisters players.
Sisters Players: Yeah?
GW: You know how the Psychic Awakening books have a host of new custom chapter/regiment/Knight House/etc. rules for the various factions, along with a list of new relics, warlord traits and -tons- of stratagems?
Sisters Players: We sure do!
GW: Well feth you. You get a Harlequin.

I mean, I thought being relegated to White Dwarf was bad, but at least the Harlis got some half-way decent rules. They don't even get a name generator FFS!

Are you saying Sisters of Battle player would be justified to complain about not getting enough stuff?
Some demons are building snowmen lol.

**yukishiro1**

Pariah is absolutely packed, and the contents page has some hints at what you’ll find inside.

Haha, I bet someone had to take a shower after writing that.

**bullyboy**

Pretty funny seeing some posters were shouting down others "They said sisters will get their own PA release!!". They did....she's called Ephrael Stern.

**yukishiro1**

Half the Sisters of Battle PA is a Harlequin named character.

And yes, I can't wait to see the stats on the Inquisitor's Shuriken Catapult - we can all find out what the stats should have been in the first place if it wasn't a Xenos faction.

**the_scotsman**

yukishiro1 wrote:
Half the Sisters of Battle PA is a Harlequin named character.

And yes, I can't wait to see the stats on the Inquisitor's Shuriken Catapult - we can all find out what the stats should have been in the first place if it wasn't a Xenos faction.

....not a harlequin named character if you can't take him in a harlequin army.

**Dudeface**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
GW: Hey Sisters players.
Sisters Players: Yeah?
GW: You know how the Psychic Awakening books have a host of new custom chapter/regiment/Knight House/etc. rules for the various factions, along with a list of new relics, warlord traits and -tons- of stratagems?
Sisters Players: We sure do!
GW: Well feth you. You get a Harlequin.

I mean, I thought being relegated to White Dwarf was bad, but at least the Harlis got some half-way decent rules. They don't even get a name generator FFS!

It was a lose/lose situation, so close to the codex anything they put out would have been "but it should be in the coddx stop splitting material out". As it is they're now panned for not putting more stuff out, tbh I thought there'd be a custom orders section maybe but that's it.

My fear is crons got little because they have a 9th ed codex round the corner, sisters got little because same maybe?

**Kdash**

Wow... So we all knew Necrons would get an update early after the launch of 9th, but damn they got shafted in this series.

The only reason why i could see ANYONE buying this book, is if they have all the others and want to complete the collection.

**A.T.**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
"They got rules for Stern!"
There. That counts as PA SoB rules, right?

"Stern and Kyganil" - another compulsory double act unit by the looks of the index.

**Mr Morden**

It appears to be a Inqusiiton book rather than a SOB book - which is fine by me - i am still surprised that there was even a new Sisters model coming out.

big question - do Inquisitors finally get power armour as an option

**dan2026**

So are Necrons getting a new codex then?
I guess they must be.

**tneva82**

alextroy wrote:

2) Specifically designed with 9th Edition in mind per Stu Black. The only pity about this is that they weren't published in the specific PA books they applied to. Did you notice there are 9 and the order they apply to the books in published order?

Designed like stuff in PA that gets invalidated in 9th? Sister codex was also supposedly(according to GW) written with 9th ed in mind yet it has part of it's content literally invalidated by 9th. Not even "this ability is super weak now". Literally ability that is granted 100% by 9th ed.

**p5freak**

Yes, necrons will get a new codex, probably this year, maybe still during summer. It has already been shown in the 9th previews.

**the_scotsman**

Mr Morden wrote:
It appears to be a Inqusiiton book rather than a SOB book - which is fine by me - i am still surprised that there was even a new Sisters model coming out.

big question - do Inquisitors finally get power armour as an option

50$ says there are exactly two changes from the WD rules.

1) INQUISITION keyword units can be included in any IMPERIUM detachment that includes an INQUISITOR without breaking bonuses (ala the Assassins' new Imperial Agents rule)

2) new datasheet for the new inquisitor, who will have power armor, but regular inquisitors will not be able to take power armor.

**GaroRobe**

I guess when the book was written, we weren't supposed to know about Idomitus. But it's funny that the old necron warriors and monolith are featured. Not surprisingly, the immortals are shown with the bronze color scheme. Once the new edition drops, all the older necron models will most likely be shown in bronze, like how the Tau went from orange to white as the poster boys.

**rollawaythestone**

I'm going to be really bummed if Kyganil can't be fielded in a Harlequin army.

**yukishiro1**

Prepare to be bummed. If he could be fielded by quins they would have said so by now. On at least two occasions now they've said they can be fielded by the Imperium, there's no suggestion you can just take one or the other, and he's described as having "been" (note past tense) a Harlequin.

**Voss**

dan2026 wrote:
So are Necrons getting a new codex then?
I guess they must be.

That was already a given (just from the sheer number of new units and the cover art), but this approach makes me laugh a little.

Kdash wrote:Wow... So we all knew Necrons would get an update early after the launch of 9th, but damn they got shafted in this series.

This isn't a 'shaft,' this is a pure advantage. No necron player has to pay for the PA errata. They just get to look forward to a hopefully much improved codex (it can't be much worse than the current one).

Not being saddled with a PA book is just a win

**Dudeface**

the_scotsman wrote:
Mr Morden wrote:
It appears to be a Inqusiiton book rather than a SOB book - which is fine by me - i am still surprised that there was even a new Sisters model coming out.

big question - do Inquisitors finally get power armour as an option

50$ says there are exactly two changes from the WD rules.

1) INQUISITION keyword units can be included in any IMPERIUM detachment that includes an INQUISITOR without breaking bonuses (ala the Assassins' new Imperial Agents rule)

2) new datasheet for the new inquisitor, who will have power armor, but regular inquisitors will not be able to take power armor.

They already have point 1, 2 is a given but there are more pages as each special character gets a page now.

**the_scotsman**

Dudeface wrote:
the_scotsman wrote:
Mr Morden wrote:
It appears to be a Inqusiiton book rather than a SOB book - which is fine by me - i am still surprised that there was even a new Sisters model coming out.

big question - do Inquisitors finally get power armour as an option

50$ says there are exactly two changes from the WD rules.

1) INQUISITION keyword units can be included in any IMPERIUM detachment that includes an INQUISITOR without breaking bonuses (ala the Assassins' new Imperial Agents rule)

2) new datasheet for the new inquisitor, who will have power armor, but regular inquisitors will not be able to take power armor.

They already have point 1, 2 is a given but there are more pages as each special character gets a page now.

They don't. Inquisitors can join IMPERIUM detachments but Acolytes, Jokaeros and Daemonhosts can only be fielded in INQUISITION vanguard detachments.

**NinthMusketeer**

Dudeface wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
GW: Hey Sisters players.
Sisters Players: Yeah?
GW: You know how the Psychic Awakening books have a host of new custom chapter/regiment/Knight House/etc. rules for the various factions, along with a list of new relics, warlord traits and -tons- of stratagems?
Sisters Players: We sure do!
GW: Well feth you. You get a Harlequin.

I mean, I thought being relegated to White Dwarf was bad, but at least the Harlis got some half-way decent rules. They don't even get a name generator FFS!

It was a lose/lose situation, so close to the codex anything they put out would have been "but it should be in the coddx stop splitting material out". As it is they're now panned for not putting more stuff out, tbh I thought there'd be a custom orders section maybe but that's it.

My fear is crons got little because they have a 9th ed codex round the corner, sisters got little because same maybe?

And HBMC would have been first in line to level that criticism.

**Sterling191**

The fact that their promo art in the article explicitly centers on Necrons, Sisters and Deathwatch makes me both angry and exceptionally amused.

**H.B.M.C.**

NinthMusketeer wrote:
And HBMC would have been first in line to level that criticism.

Not really. It's annoying to have such a massive source of rules in a separate book to your Codex, but I'd rather they have something than not have something.

**alextroy**

So GW is damned if the do and damned if they don't give Necrons content in PA just before their new Codex drops

**yukishiro1**

Yeah, if only they had supposedly been planning PA and 9th edition for years and hadn't been forced to line it up so that Necrons would get the last PA book. But alas, God decreed on the 8th day that "Necrons will be first to get a new codex in 9th and last to get a PA update, deal with it gee-dubs!"

**NinthMusketeer**

Whatever they got in PA would have just been rolled into the subsequent codex anyway, so I suspect they just chose to cut out the middle man.

**H.B.M.C.**

NinthMusketeer wrote:
Whatever they got in PA would have just been rolled into the subsequent codex anyway, so I suspect they just chose to cut out the middle man.

Well, some of what they got. GW did say that the new Codices would take the "greatest hits" from PA. I can't wait to lose my "shoot as if stationary" strat for my Exocrines.

But not including Necron stuff in the PA is kinda weird, but with a new Codex right around the corner it makes sense.

Sisters on the other hand...

**yukishiro1**

I kinda suspect the whole "old codexes and PA books will still be valid" thing is just a "please continue buying our old books at full price!" plea more than it actually reflects reality. Just like "the indexes are still valid even after the codex is released," was, until they weren't any more.